Straight Pride Parade

[oldjones]

I raised this in my earlier post. If we are talking about "peoples" as identifiable groups, many white "peoples" have experienced genocide, slavery and other atrocities. All you have to do is look back far enough. Doesn't "privilege" just point to which groups appear to be controlling a society at the moment?

Indeed. but that position evolved historically. So there's really no way to rule out examining the past simply by defining our concern 'as the present and only the present'.

Realistically, the only to avoid getting mired is to focus as best we can on what we should and must do going forward to be fair and just to all. No one can ever get that entirely right, but we'll do better constantly trying, than always looking backwards to pick at old scabs.

 

[acutus]

So what's your solution then, put homosexuals in concentration camps to eradicate AIDS?

Please do not misunderstand my comments.

For the record, I have always supported the prevention of AIDS.

 

[Butler1000]

There are many LGBTQIA+ spaces; it's just that the queer pride parade is a "space" that allows them to demonstrate their pride in front of other people. Straight people can watch but they are not allowed to attend or march in it, because they are not queer. Straight people do not need to demonstrate their pride because they are not marginalized.

Whether the media can cover it or whether the corporations can try to make a few bucks from it is another discussion. I am personally against corporations using marginalized groups as tokens for their own personal benefit.

So you are against straight politicians marching in Pride parades?

Also you might want to ask the present director about the finances of Pride when they lost their sponsorships over banning the police.

Btw it was the taxpayers who bailed them out, I didn't see the gay community setting up a Go Fund Me to go it alone.

Here is what you don't get imo. The legal battle is essentially over. The battle left is the hearts and minds one. And that one can't be one with divisiveness.

If you want to be a part of the larger fabric of society then you have to weave yourselves in.

 

[Butler1000]

To be fair when I mean white I mean Europeans white (British, French, Spanish). You're right that Jews, etc. are underprivileged compared to European-whites.

However, white people have more privilege than darker skinned people. Jewish people have endured through genocides and slavery in the past, that's true, but blacks, Indians, Aborginals, etc. have endured through a lot more, and moreover the genocide and slavery they endure through were less recognized by society. For instance even till this day Aboriginals still experience genocide. Look at how many missing and murdered Indigenous women there are.

The cast majority of indigenous women are killed by indigenous men. And trafficked by them as well.

 

[shack]

But what difference does it make, either way the kid is kicked out and now homeless. You seem to think you deserve more pity or attention because you are gay

Phil, you know that it does make a difference.

A straight person might be stealing from the family or freeloading or beating on another family member. They get kicked out for those reasons but not because they are straight.

A gay person may get kicked out for no other reason than being gay.

But you understood that already and just wanted to be contradictory.

 

[Dutch Oven]

To be fair when I mean white I mean Europeans white (British, French, Spanish). You're right that Jews, etc. are underprivileged compared to European-whites.

However, white people have more privilege than darker skinned people. Jewish people have endured through genocides and slavery in the past, that's true, but blacks, Indians, Aborginals, etc. have endured through a lot more, and moreover the genocide and slavery they endure through were less recognized by society. For instance even till this day Aboriginals still experience genocide. Look at how many missing and murdered Indigenous women there are.

History is complex, nuanced, and vast. For this reason, generalizations rarely hold up to scrutiny. Just as examples, many British (Britons) were brutalized by a variety of invading peoples, including the Vikings and the Romans. The Scots were brutalized by the British. White Spaniards were brutalized by Islamic occupiers. Aboriginals were conquered and in many cases abused by European invaders, but themselves brutalized and enslaved other aboriginals.

"Privilege", if such a term is to have any meaning, only refers to the social order as it currently exists. However, it should not be equated with the idea that having a social order is wrong or that those who control society should not be able to do so, or that it operates based merely on the color of one's skin, as opposed to based on myriad of characteristics, not the least of which is how much wealth you control.

 

[Butler1000]

Enlighten me please. Where in the rules or guidelines did it say that it's against the laws to defend LGBTQIA+ people from hate and bigotry?

Funny how you think my posts are a problem but it's perfectly OK for you to have an overly misogynistic handle name.

Methinks we have one of those who spent a we bit too much time in "women's studies" programs........

 

[shack]

Heterosexual kids get booted from their parental homes all the time

But not because they are hetero. Some parents (maybe even you) would kick them out for no other reason than being gay.

 

[Butler1000]

Phil, you know that it does make a difference.

A straight person might be stealing from the family or freeloading or beating on another family member. They get kicked out for those reasons but not because they are straight.

A gay person may get kicked out for no other reason than being gay.

But you understood that already and just wanted to be contradictory.

Or because their parents are alcoholics, abusers, and the like. And a kid is still out on the streets. For no other reason than the parents are assholes.

 

[shack]

Again, what difference does it make WHY somebody gets kicked out??

If somebody goes to jail for murder what difference does is make if they actually did it or not.

 

[shack]

Straight black men face hardships also and they are the only demographic that is attacked for dating and marrying interracially

Yeah, but you guys have bigger dicks so it is an unfair advantage. LOL.

 

[shack]

Does it matter? I post wherever the fuck I want to post.

So you can post a review in the sports section?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

If somebody goes to jail for murder what difference does is make if they actually did it or not

Phil, you know that it does make a difference.

A straight person might be stealing from the family or freeloading or beating on another family member. They get kicked out for those reasons but not because they are straight.

A gay person may get kicked out for no other reason than being gay

Not always true. Some fathers are physically abusive with their kids for no other reason than they are assholes


EDIT: I see Butler1000 beat me to it

 

[deep_blue]

Actually most Terbites are on the "straight pride parade"/anti-LGBTQIA+ circlejerk wagon. Unless Phil is too intimidated by one individual.

I barely use Terb and I'm not even a client nor SP.

In all of those cases my initial statement to you still stands, GTFO. People are tired of unpleasant “social justice” warriors like yourself permeating every space pontificating your irrelevant and misguided beliefs.

**This user’s presence does not add to the purpose of TERB, they admit it themselves. I strongly suggest a permanent banning.**

 

[deep_blue]

So what you're saying is that if heterosexuals are not allowed in LGBTQIA+ spaces, then LGBTQIA+ people are not allowed in "heterosexual spaces".

That's lovely, why don't you bring up a bill for that in the US Parliament? Join Trump and his right-wing cronies and make a bill that will shut queer people into their own spaces because of how much you hate them.

Or you're just some idiot who don't understand what the term "safe space" means.

We don’t have a “Parliament” in the USA, we have a Congress. We fought a bloody revolution to ensure that we were to not governed by one. You demand that we learn more about your lifestyle and “gender” but you are terribly ignorant of the world around you. You’re beliefs and faux-advocacy are indeed close-minded and self-serving.

 

[Grimnul]

In all of those cases my initial statement to you still stands, GTFO. People are tired of unpleasant “social justice” warriors like yourself permeating every space pontificating your irrelevant and misguided beliefs.

**This user’s presence does not add to the purpose of TERB, they admit it themselves. I strongly suggest a permanent banning.**

Second. This kind of rhetoric is completely unhelpful. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: people like this are why Trump won. People by and large are supportive of LGBTQ rights, but people don’t like being preached at. This sort of nonsense, if anything, pushes people to oppose progressive policies just to spite the obnoxious safe-space, social justice types. Regressive liberalism is every bit as harmful as regressive conservatism.

This is the wrong platform, and this bullshit is just cluttering up the board and causing drama. There’s no reason for Crimson to be here. A ban would be appropriate, in my opinion.

 

[wigglee]

Absofucking hilarious
I left your entire reply quoted so people can not claim I am editing

You MISSED the letters I and A dummy!

That's exactly why I said people are just making up acronyms at this point
Even you don't know what you are quoting

PS I notice you have once again resorted to fear mongering
Those people might be afraid of me but I am certainly not afraid of them
Disgusted sure
Afraid nope

To requote myself:
"Phobic" implies a "fear"
It's not fear to say someone is fucking disgusting

If I say a fat person looks like shit am I pocrescophobic?

you hate because you fear your own impulses

 

[wigglee]

How did I know the usual Terb suspects would get triggered by a Straight pride parade :biggrin1:

it is you who are triggered by expressions of gay pride and that is why you conjure up the absurd straight pride notion .....pathetic.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

it is you who are triggered by expressions of gay pride and that is why you conjure up the absurd straight pride notion .....pathetic

I thought its equal rights for all wigglee, why cant us straight people have a parade??

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

How many times do we have to beat you over the fucking head that HETEROSEXUAL PEOPLE ARE NOT OPPRESSED geez. They don't need a parade. If you want heterosexual pride go to your nearest Starbucks and strike up a conversation there

But what if we don't really need a parade, but want one anyways??
Santa doesnt need a parade, but he has one.
St. Patrick has been dead a long time ago, he still has a parade.
Raptords also had a parade.

So if our heterosexual brethren want a parade, is that okay with the gay crowd??