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STOP THE NEOCONS FROM STARTING A WAR!

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STOP THE NEOCONS FROM STARTING A WAR!
by Eric Margolis



January 25, 2022
Amid surging tensions over Ukraine, the head of Germany’s navy had the courage to voice Europe’s fears over this totally unnecessary, contrived crisis.
In a speech to an Indian think tank, Vice-admiral Kay-Achim Schonbach proposed the Western powers ‘respect’ Russian leader Vladimir Putin and accept that Crimea would remain in Moscow’s hands.
The German admiral’s remarks produced a major uproar in Washington and tut tuts in Europe where hatred of Russia has become a state fetish. Most aggrieved were the British and Americans who deeply fear an alliance or at least entente between Germany and Russia that might undermine US domination of the continent.
Germany, Europe’s leading military force and mainstay of NATO, has hollowed out its military power. Thanks to unqualified female defense ministers, Germany’s armed forces have degenerated into parade troops. Armor and aircraft, once hallmarks of German military power, have become feeble toys, lacking in munitions, spare parts and capable crews.
Polls show Germans have very little interest in confronting Russia. Memories of World War II are still raw. Today’s Germans live in a nation that was 50% destroyed by US and British bombing. Millions of Germans come from families driven out of eastern Europe.
There is not a lot of sympathy for Ukraine’s current government that was installed by a US-financed and stage-managed coup in 2013-2014. Germany’s US-dominated media and government support Washington’s hard line on Ukraine but many ordinary Germans and French don’t agree.
America’s media and politicians strongly support the military confrontation with Russia, a low-cost way of being loudly patriotic without actually doing anything serious.
Only Poland, the Baltic states and American neocons really hunger for war – provided it is waged by the US. US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, a rising star among the pro-war neocons, is pushing the confrontation with Russia – yet another bureaucrat with no military experience.
Military men quickly understand the logistic and climactic problems of fighting in the Black Sea region, but not Washington’s desk warriors and their European satraps. The US has been unwise to provoke a confrontation with Russia in its backyard. Though Russia has lost much of its Soviet-era military power, it would be a mistake to underestimate its combat capabilities and overestimate those of NATO.
Remember, Napoleon (who was seriously defeated in Russia) prayed ‘oh Lord, if I must go to war, please make it against a coalition.’
Washington’s sofa samurais are playing with fire. The neocons’ latest effort to overthrow President Putin risks backfiring badly by drawing China into the fray and undermining US domination of the continent. Let’s say US-led NATO forces thrash the 106,000 Russian troops around Ukraine’s borders. What then? An advance on Moscow? An assault on Crimea? Might Romania join the war to recover Moldova lost in WWII? Or tiny Finland? The Russians are unlikely to be quivering in their boots. Romanian troops, let’s recall, were defending the flank of Germany’s 6th Army at the Stalingrad disaster.
We are not going to see a rerun of the Great Northern War of the early 1700’s. What we are seeing is the re-birth of Russian power in its traditional sphere of influence. Admiral Schonbach is quite right. Russia will never relinquish Crimea any more than Germany would give over Hamburg or the US cede Baltimore to Cuban control.
Luckily for us, Russia is currently being run by hard men from the old KGB who are experienced and cautious. It is well that they are because Russia has thousands of nuclear weapons pointed at the US and its allies. No one in their right mind should contemplate a nuclear confrontation. Russia has repeatedly made clear that if backed into a corner, it may well use tactical nuclear weapons. China is coming around to the same thinking.
Beaten in Vietnam, Iraq and now Afghanistan, the US is seeking a cheap victory in Ukraine. But the northern rim of the Black Sea is not known for its low-hanging geopolitical fruit. And Russia always surprises.
Mr. Blinken, be cautious lest a hypersonic Russian missile comes flying through your office window.
Copyright Eric S. Margolis 2022
 

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You shouldn't post that only because it's pure bullshit. There's no appetite in the Eastern Europe for a war with Russia and I don't care who told you otherwise. Margolis made it up. He might have a point to a degree about the neocons, but they have no voice in the Republican nor the Democratic parties. The crisis is being driven by the White House and the Pentagon. The people around Joe don't know how to step back without looking like the Kabul jackasses(again) and diminish the Office even further and the Pentagon is populated with losers, these days, in search of a mission.
 
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Didn't get through the whole thing, but acquiescing to the annexation of Crimea would likely lead to the annexation of all of the Ukraine - bit by bit and inch by inch, since that's the only way the Ukrainians are going to give it up. Are the Russians paying this guy by the word or does it involve some "future considerations"?...
 
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Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Nobody should fight a war for them. Russia can have it!
 

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Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
That's exactly what I say about Russia. My father lived in Russia for several years. EVERYBODY is corrupt and no one can be trusted.

Look at Putin's mansion and wealth. How did that happen? It's not from his paycheque after deductions. LOL

Ukraine is small potatoes when it comes to corruption. So small, that they probably don't have enough to make a bottle of vodka.
 
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Didn't get through the whole thing, but acquiescing to the annexation of Crimea would likely lead to the annexation of all of the Ukraine - bit by bit and inch by inch, since that's the only way the Ukrainians are going to give it up. Are the Russians paying this guy by the word or does it involve some "future considerations"?...
I would assume it’s a flat rate rate for his support.
 

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Neither Nato…. Nor the US was threatening to invade Russia. So “Neo Conservatives” have not started anything.

Not sure why the Conservative party got in bed with Communist Russia…. But it’s very clear they did.
 

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Didn't get through the whole thing, but acquiescing to the annexation of Crimea would likely lead to the annexation of all of the Ukraine - bit by bit and inch by inch, since that's the only way the Ukrainians are going to give it up. Are the Russians paying this guy by the word or does it involve some "future considerations"?...
Nobody takes Eric seriously (except Terb's Putin cheerleader), he's been a mouthpiece for Putin's Russia for quite some time.
 

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You shouldn't post that only because it's pure bullshit. There's no appetite in the Eastern Europe for a war with Russia and I don't care who told you otherwise. Margolis made it up. He might have a point to a degree about the neocons, but they have no voice in the Republican nor the Democratic parties. The crisis is being driven by the White House and the Pentagon. The people around Joe don't know how to step back without looking like the Kabul jackasses(again) and diminish the Office even further and the Pentagon is populated with losers, these days, in search of a mission.
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danmand

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I'm surprised Dan is calling Putin a neocon. I know the description fits but ...
I did not called anybody anything.
I posted an article by Eric Margolis. If you don't like it - or like it - take it up with Eric Margolis
 

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Right. You just posted an article you don't believe in for discussion. :rolleyes:
I don't know what your problem is. I posted an article, clearly indicated too be authored by Eric Margolis.

I find most articles by Eric Margolis, including this one, to be interesting reading. I am sorry, if it offended you.
 

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Considering the comments of the Ukrainian government, and recent comments by the CEO'S of Raytheon, Lockheed and their ilk, it looks like they are ginning this up.
 

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Neither Nato…. Nor the US was threatening to invade Russia. So “Neo Conservatives” have not started anything.

Not sure why the Conservative party got in bed with Communist Russia…. But it’s very clear they did.
The Conservatives and alt right individuals like Tucker Carlson condemned Biden and seemingly saw Putin as the victim in this whole affair.
But remember that he also cozies up with autocrats like the Hungarian PM called Orban. Now Hungary is a Member of the EU and NATO. But his remarks after he visited Putin in Russia are really shocking for a NATO member:

Hungary’s leader, visiting Moscow, calls Russian demands reasonable and says sanctions are pointless.


No doubt this will please all the alt right hacks and probably Trump himself who was not a fan of NATO and he really screwed them up!!
 
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Yes, Tucker supports the Russian official line, as he has for a while.
This isn't news.
Yes, there's a Russian under every bed and two in the basement. They are even behind the Canadian truckers according to some moron from the CBC. Anyone who's against another war is clearly on the Putin's payroll. Facepalm.
 
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