Stay the fuck away, EVA

[nightmarevamp]

http://toronto.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/bombshelljust-arrivedqualityspecials/34779266

O.k after a lot of texting and missed communications with a couple of girls today (waiting is so not my thing) one person stood out. Eva, she texted well, we agreed on price and said $100 for bbbj, daty and rim, for 30mins.

So I get there, get the room and then it gets weird.

She opens the door like a deer in headlights. Short, blonde with pink hair and this weirdly shocked expression. I ask her what's wrong are you shocked to see me, she says "No" and walks away. I come in, take off my boots, get ready and she comes from around the corner with her hand out for money. O.k, money first no problem. She takes it and says "So you wanna start?" I'm like, yeah. She then goes into the bathroom, now it sounds like she is talking to someone in there or on the phone I can't tell. She asked when she comes out. "So just fuck right that's what you asked for?" I'm like, no, we said bbbj, daty, rim. "Oh"

So I get on the bed, she's naked and still has this weird spaced out expression on her face. Asked me to make room for her, I did. She then starts to suck? She looks me at me and asked if I cleaned it. I'm like yeah. So she puts the head in her mouth and just kinda sits there, her tongue is kinda moving, I guess she want's me harder? So I get hard and I start moving her head down, she starts to bbbj but pretty fast. After about 3 mins. She sits up and says "Can you jerk it?" I'm like yeah I could , why? "I don't want to suck it anymore" Still with this weird robotic expression. I said, well how about a little longer? She obliges. So I'm getting pretty in the zone and I ask for her to lay down and go to the side of the bed for some rim. "Don't spit on my ass" She says. I'm like, yeah I won't. Start to rim, 1 second in. "No dont do that" I said, well you said don't spit I'm not going to . "No I don't like that on my ass" O.k. Can I eat your pussy. "No not that either"

So it's at this point that I'm kinda ready to stand up and make an uncomfortable issue and walk out either with my money or half or not. I said. Well we discussed this and you this is what i asked for and you said yes. "O.k, you can eat my pussy, but go slow" So I do.

I'm getting close to cumming "it's been awhile and I was beyond horned up despite this pain in the ass she is being. I say , where can I cum? She says "in the garbage" She is gesturing in the kitchen. Umm I can't make it that far lol. "Cum in your hand and hold it" So I shoot half on the ground a little in my hand and wipe up.

She won't even look at me. She's asking how to get the coffee pot to work. I said I don't know I don't drink coffee. I get dressed, the whole time she messing around with the coffee pot, I leave and she just stood there naked staring at the coffee pot, no goodbye, no eye contact.

All in all the weirdest and rudest experience in my life. Don't even waste your breath on this girl. If I hadent had any kinda contact in the last month from a woman I wouldn't have bothered, but sadly I did .

Do not make the same mistake I did.

 

[bver_hunter]

Are those real pictures of her? Is she pretty, like those pictures?
One thing is for certain even if I have showered before leaving to see them, I would ask them if I could possibly take another shower. This sometimes means a lot to them, and they would not have to ask you if you were clean down there. After all they have to give you a BBBJ.

 

[Fenix369]

After all they have to give you a BBBJ.

In my opinion, a lady has the right to ask you to shower or at least wash yourself if she thinks someone isn't clean and they also have the right to say no to the bbbj if you refuse to wash or take a shower.They dont have to give you one if it isnt hygienic to do so

 

[PSTAR]

http://toronto.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/bombshelljust-arrivedqualityspecials/34779266Eva, she texted well, we agreed on price and said $100 for bbbj, daty and rim, for 30mins.

So I get there, get the room and then it gets weird.

She opens the door like a deer in headlights. Short, blonde with pink hair and this weirdly shocked expression. I ask her what's wrong are you shocked to see me, she says "No" and walks away. I come in, take off my boots, get ready and she comes from around the corner with her hand out for money. O.k, money first no problem. She takes it and says "So you wanna start?" I'm like, yeah. She then goes into the bathroom, now it sounds like she is talking to someone in there or on the phone I can't tell. She asked when she comes out. "So just fuck right that's what you asked for?" I'm like, no, we said bbbj, daty, rim. "Oh"

So I get on the bed, she's naked and still has this weird spaced out expression on her face. Asked me to make room for her, I did. She then starts to suck? She looks me at me and asked if I cleaned it. I'm like yeah.

At no point in time do you even step foot in the shower in your story before your session. Despite the fact that your story didn't suggest that she offered to use the facility, that doesn't mean showering at home makes you clean the moment you're there at her place. She was giving you the subtle hint that your hygiene was an issue -- DUH!

They have by-laws in place at MPs to ensure clients have a mandatory shower for the health of the MPAs. You're dealing with an SP -- the first thing you should have asked was "where's the shower?" If I was you and she didn't offer, I would have left. No sense screwing over my health when she's not concerned for mine (or hers). It's common sense.

As for the service you received, she already sized you up on the phone when you asked what you wanted for the price you wanted (not "we") to agree paying (which seemed ludicrous to pay SO little for what you asked for -- JEEZ, it's not a flea market!). You were being a "Discount Dave" -- she wanted to figure out how to keep you there for 15 minutes (rather than 30). The spitting on her asshole put her over the top for sure. She was playing damage control, plain and simple as far as you've described everything to finish the session ASAP.

Unfortunately, there's no sympathy here, my friend. Next time, do yourself a favour when dealing with BP SPs:
1) Pay what she says her prices are at the end of the session, not at the beginning. If she claims to be "drama free", she'll comply with you paying at the end. If not, leave.
2) If she claims that she's "clean", you should do the same. Make the effort to invest in an inexpensive men's travel toiletry bag with the necessary essentials (ie. Mouthwash, tongue scraper, mints, deodorant spray, body wash and cologne) when you go to an Incall session and use the shower. Flossing and brushing your teeth should be done at least two (2) hours at home before your session especially if you're asking for cheap DATY sessions. SMH.

I'm sure you wouldn't want an SP with bleeding gums giving you a BBBJ. Gross.

 

[Degenerate]

In my opinion, a lady has the right to ask you to shower or at least wash yourself if she thinks someone isn't clean and they also have the right to say no to the bbbj if you refuse to wash or take a shower.They dont have to give you one if it isnt hygienic to do so

At no point in time do you even step foot in the shower in your story before your session. Despite the fact that your story didn't suggest that she offered to use the facility, that doesn't mean showering at home makes you clean the moment you're there at her place. She was giving you the subtle hint that your hygiene was an issue -- DUH!
They have by-laws in place at MPs to ensure clients have a mandatory shower for the health of the MPAs. You're dealing with an SP -- the first thing you should have asked was "where's the shower?" If I was you and she didn't offer, I would have left. No sense screwing over my health when she's not concerned for mine (or hers).
As for the service you received, she already sized you up on the phone when you asked what you wanted for the price you wanted to agree paying (which seemed ludicrous to pay SO little for what you asked for -- JEEZ, it's not a flea market!). You were being a "Discount Dave" -- she wanted to figure out how to keep you there for 15 minutes (rather than 30). She was playing damage control, plain and simple as far as you've described everything.

Unfortunately, there's no sympathy here, my friend. Next time, do yourself a favour when dealing with BP SPs:
1) Pay what she says her prices are at the end of the session, not at the beginning. If she claims to be "drama free", she'll comply with you paying at the end. If not, leave.
2) If she claims that she's "clean", you should do the same. Make the effort to invest in an inexpensive men's travel toiletry bag with the necessary essentials (ie. Mouthwash, tongue scraper, mints, deodorant spray, body wash and cologne) when you go to an Incall session and use the shower. Flossing and brushing your teeth should be done at least two (2) hours at home before your session especially if you're asking for cheap DATY sessions. SMH.
I'm sure you wouldn't want an SP with bleeding gums giving you a BBBJ. Gross.

I'm not sure where you two guys come from with the hygiene theme. What I see is an SP that agreed to a price but doesn't want to provide the service agreed to. She agreed to it and it's the rate for a number of girls in Durham. How you guys make up your own version of what happened and then use your assumptions to slam the Op is just childish.

 

[PSTAR]

I'm not sure where you two guys come from with the hygiene theme. What I see is an SP that agreed to a price but doesn't want to provide the service agreed to. She agreed to it and it's the rate for a number of girls in Durham. How you guys make up your own version of what happened and then use your assumptions to slam the Op is just childish.

It's common sense, Degenerate. bver_hunter felt the same way too regarding hygiene. That's three people.

Clearly, we see where your stance is on hygiene when dealing with SPs. Please do everyone a favour: disprove all of us and TOFTT to see Eva and let us know how you fare without taking a shower, negotiate a $100 price for what the OP "agreed" to and see how your session goes.

I'll put it to you as blunt as I can: if someone's genitals smell like a geriatric facility (urine and feces), you better believe the SPs not going to deal with that client for long despite the client's insistence that they're "clean". The way that the OP described her expressions spoke volumes.

 

[Degenerate]

It's common sense, Degenerate. bver_hunter felt the same way too regarding hygiene. That's three people.

Clearly, we see where your stance is on hygiene when dealing with SPs. Please do everyone a favour: disprove all of us and TOFTT to see Eva and let us know how you fare without taking a shower, negotiate a $100 price for what the OP "agreed" to and see how your session goes.

Too funny. Your logic is flawed. I don't have to TOFTT because I believe the Op and based on that, I'm staying away . You on the other hand do not believe the OP and believe the SP is right in not delivering what was agreed to and with that, it should be you that TOFTT's to prove the Op wrong. Enjoy!

 

[PSTAR]

Too funny. Your logic is flawed. I don't have to TOFTT because I believe the Op and based on that, I'm staying away . You on the other hand do not believe the OP and believe the SP is right in not delivering what was agreed to and with that, it should be you that TOFTT's to prove the Op wrong. Enjoy!

Clearly you didn't read my previous post in its entirety -- actually it was quite clear.

When dealing with BP SPs...1) I always pay at the end of the session, not before AND 2) I always insist on using the shower before a session. My two cardinal rules.

As both rules were broken based on the OPs detailed story, I have no need to TOFTT. I'd have more fun burning a $100 bank note than to pay for a session in advance, say that I "showered" (when I didn't) and have a shortened, lackluster session with only my smelly cock and balls to show for it. SMH.

 

[nightmarevamp]

Were you the pimp in the bathroom PSTAR? O.k let me clear a few things up.

For one this money issue is a double edged sword.

1) Most SP's are not that comfortable with providing services and then hoping you pay them after. Cause frankly you could just not pay or not have anything on you, a risk majority dont take.
2) I pay up front, now am I at the mercy of what she will do and offer, yes. But it's standard practise, and if you look over my history I have about %90 positive experiences.

As for this cleaniness issue. O.k, I showers and drive over like usual. Always have when it comes to hotels. She didn't go down on me then look at me in horror and ask "Did you clean?" No, she wasen't even close. I'm commenting on the vibe and how she said it. She just stared at me with that same zombie like state with a weird ass expression asking if I had, then she bbbj me and wanted to short me on that service completely.

As to why I don't shower there. Well maybe your more trusting. If I go to massage parlors I shower all the time, the cleanliness is up to par, nicer environment. Hotel showers are disgusting, most of the towels are re-used and there's also the chance of them sneaking in to grab my phone or wallet while soap is in my eyes. If your comfortable with it more power to you, but not me.

I don't have to review, I do this to help out others much like I read here which helps me out. Why you are questioning or being oddly argumentative is a little bit weird, you weren't there and didn't have my experience. So if you wanna go see her by all means go ahead. And bvr_hunter the red lingerie pic is the most accurate of her but her hair is pink. But her attitude, service level is just plain SHIT. Your welcome

 

[PSTAR]

Were you the pimp in the bathroom PSTAR? O.k let me clear a few things up.

For one this money issue is a double edged sword.

1) Most SP's are not that comfortable with providing services and then hoping you pay them after. Cause frankly you could just not pay or not have anything on you, a risk majority dont take.
2) I pay up front, now am I at the mercy of what she will do and offer, yes. But it's standard practise, and if you look over my history I have about %90 positive experiences.

As for this cleaniness issue. O.k, I showers and drive over like usual. Always have when it comes to hotels. She didn't go down on me then look at me in horror and ask "Did you clean?" No, she wasen't even close. I'm commenting on the vibe and how she said it. She just stared at me with that same zombie like state with a weird ass expression asking if I had, then she bbbj me and wanted to short me on that service completely.

As to why I don't shower there. Well maybe your more trusting. If I go to massage parlors I shower all the time, the cleanliness is up to par, nicer environment. Hotel showers are disgusting, most of the towels are re-used and there's also the chance of them sneaking in to grab my phone or wallet while soap is in my eyes. If your comfortable with it more power to you, but not me.

I don't have to review, I do this to help out others much like I read here which helps me out. Why you are questioning or being oddly argumentative is a little bit weird, you weren't there and didn't have my experience. So if you wanna go see her by all means go ahead. And bvr_hunter the red lingerie pic is the most accurate of her but her hair is pink. But her attitude, service level is just plain SHIT. Your welcome

You're funny, eh? Is that why you didn't use the bathroom simply because you think a pimp is in there hiding? Wow...and you're trying to figure out my logic. SMH. Probably best to stop hobbying if you haven't figured it out that it wouldn't be safe to visit BP SPs altogether.

I had a scenario with indy SP Kristyna Martelli when she first started, where she openly said that she "reused her towels" when I inspected two of them still slightly wet to the touch before I was about to step in the hotel shower. Yup! God knows what germs (or worse, a skin-contact STD if the person was infected) could I have contracted from it. Needless to say I wasn't going to entertain my health to be compromised because she didn't have the tools (ie. CLEAN towels) needed to conduct a session, so I left. No need to spend good money on someone who doesn't care for my health or others for that matter. Thought her clients should know this jem.

OP, I'm still not convinced that this is a B & DS scenario (Bait and Ditch Service -- where an SP fails to honour what services she originally agreed to before the arrival of the session). Also, no sensible person would ever leave their clothes outside of the bathroom with a wallet and money in the pocket while taking a shower (in your other scenario). I bring my clothes in the bathroom with me when I'm showering with the bathroom door locked and it's always in my sight during my session. That's just common sense. If you disagree with me, it's your own fault when you get robbed.

If that's your reason alone for not showering, I think that's disrespectful to her health as well as other hobbyists that have to see her afterwards regardless if she's from Durham Region or not.

I gave my reason not to see her to Degenerate that Eva broke two of my cardinal rules from your explanation alone. Read it.

My points were not meant to be argumentative in the slightest -- just an eye-opener. Not the one you spit in, OP. (Brown eye joke. BAHAHA!)

 

[SexualVortex]

My points were not meant to be argumentative in the slightest -- just an eye-opener. Not the one you spit in, OP.

Your reply came across as pretty condescending in my opinion and that's what I see wrong with your original reply. Just because three people feed off each other decided to reply and go on a tangent about hygiene doesn't make your post any more valid. You picked a small portion of the original post and made it the main subject of the review while it wasn't at all.

The main points are: she agreed to BBBJ, Daty and rimming. She does the BBBJ for 3 mins and then asks if he can jerk it? What kind of SP does that? He starts rimming and she says she doesn't like that on her ass. The she says no to DATY. Those are the points.

And by the way, read the majority of the reviews and you will find that most clients say they take care of the donation up front. So you do it at the end, it doesn't make you any better or smarter than anyone else. You are probably in the minority.

And no, I don't need a speech on showering when I get to the venue. You already beat that dead horse.

 

[Mulva]

Thanks for the review. Being critical is not helpful to the board and future reviews. Also it's common courtesy to hand the donation up front.

 

[cunnilinguist]

Thanks for the review. As for the price, I don't see it as particularly low. I always ASK the SP what her rate is for exactly what the OP wanted. She sets the rate and I either follow through or thank them and pass. The fact is that I save the SP a lot of effort because DATY and rimming get me to the point that I don't last too long on the BBBJ. I'm usually in and out of there fairly quickly but I have no complaints as long as the SP is cool, tasty, and enthusiastic (or a good actress). I always shower before a session, usually at the room. I also use mouthwash but I don't like cologne and I don't like women who smell like cologne. Cleanliness is all I require, not perfumed.

 

[maxwellsmart]

Thanks for the review, nmv! I saw that ad and thought it was tgtbt so I'm glad you confirmed that.

As for pstar and fenix, you guys are just wrong. I don't know what review you read to come up with your arguments and telling everybody here how to have a visit with an SP? I'm not wasting any time dissecting all the errors you made, it's been done by others here, but you 2 are in the wrong here.

 

[dirkd101]

Thanks for the intel nightmarevamp, your input has always been valued.

As far as fenix and pstar, thanks guys for chiming in, but your lectures are moot points here, besides the fact that most of these BP girls don't offer a shower, as they don't have towels for their guests or there is someone in the bathroom, pimp or fellow sp. The sp who asks if it's clean is really referring to stds, like the guy who has one is going to say yes, while she's got his cock in her mouth.
And tell me one bp sp who doesn't demand the cash upfront. There are only a few sp's who have let me slide to the end, christ, I've even had to come back in and pay a few times, but bp girls...not a chance.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Were you the pimp in the bathroom PSTAR? O.k let me clear a few things up.

For one this money issue is a double edged sword.

1) Most SP's are not that comfortable with providing services and then hoping you pay them after. Cause frankly you could just not pay or not have anything on you, a risk majority dont take.
2) I pay up front, now am I at the mercy of what she will do and offer, yes. But it's standard practise, and if you look over my history I have about %90 positive experiences.

As for this cleaniness issue. O.k, I showers and drive over like usual. Always have when it comes to hotels. She didn't go down on me then look at me in horror and ask "Did you clean?" No, she wasen't even close. I'm commenting on the vibe and how she said it. She just stared at me with that same zombie like state with a weird ass expression asking if I had, then she bbbj me and wanted to short me on that service completely.

As to why I don't shower there. Well maybe your more trusting. If I go to massage parlors I shower all the time, the cleanliness is up to par, nicer environment. Hotel showers are disgusting, most of the towels are re-used and there's also the chance of them sneaking in to grab my phone or wallet while soap is in my eyes. If your comfortable with it more power to you, but not me.

I don't have to review, I do this to help out others much like I read here which helps me out. Why you are questioning or being oddly argumentative is a little bit weird, you weren't there and didn't have my experience. So if you wanna go see her by all means go ahead. And bvr_hunter the red lingerie pic is the most accurate of her but her hair is pink. But her attitude, service level is just plain SHIT. Your welcome

You should always take your wallet or toiletry bag inside the washroom when you shower, especially someone you don't know. I also shower again at the location just to re-assure the lady. (Sometimes, it's only slight perspiration from commuting).

Thanks for the review. I don't know what to make of that Zombie look of hers. Hopefully, you don't look like your Terb handle (just kidding).

 

[PSTAR]

You should always take your wallet or toiletry bag inside the washroom when you shower, especially someone you don't know. I also shower again at the location just to re-assure the lady. (Sometimes, it's only slight perspiration from commuting).

Thank you, GPIDEAL! At least someone's on the same page as me when it comes to these two points.

 

[PSTAR]

And tell me one bp sp who doesn't demand the cash upfront.

Kristyna Martelli. She posts on BP all of the time and never asked me for money upfront. http://toronto.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gorgeous-k-superbusty-andbubblebutt-xo/32436675

Your point has been refuted unfortunately.

As for the STD point you made, if you read everything I wrote, I did make that quite clear on several instances.

 

[PSTAR]

Just to make things clear overall, I noticed that people don't make it a point to read everything and get on the bandwagon to refute repeated points I already made.

Read everything before you write. It'll save you time and effort later (or even embarrassment if you're a hardcore TERBite) . Thanks.

Overall, my points that I got from OPs story were about:
1) The lack of hygiene that most people don't want to follow when they see SPs overall (and that list seems to be growing with more people exposing themselves on this post). Gross. Makes me want to reconsider hobbying altogether seeing this list grow. The last thing I would want to smell when I see my SP is the previous guy's raunchy ball smell permeating from the room or the bed sheets. I know a friend of mine who works as a receptionist in a massage parlour. Let me tell you, I walked by a room that had a guy shower from after his session. His body odour smelled beyond belief (AND HE JUST SHOWERED!). God forbid if he didn't. THAT is the vision of what I want to avoid when I see an SP -- a room that doesn't smell. This should also apply to the SP as well -- she should make it a point to shower between sessions. Body odour/sweat can transfer to the next client if she doesn't shower either.

2) Putting safeguards in place to maintain one's hard-earned money by providing the donation after the session, which most people don't seem to care about from this post (whether you'd prefer to be robbed or get a Bait and Ditch Service scenario). I just hate having to hear someone crib that they lost good money from a situation that they could have controlled or even avoided altogether.

 

[PSTAR]

Going back to Point 1, here's a classic example of a Bait & Ditch Service scenario that was easily avoided: https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...CAMMER-!!-STAY-AWAY!!!!&p=5509009#post5509009

--dirkd101: He paid her upfront and look where it got this guy on BP...from $100 for 30 mins having to pay $200 for a crappy session.