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Stacy Clarke...should be fired...

Skoob

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So on further review, it seems that Clarke based on feedback from 500 police officers, not 500 black police officers, but 500 police officers, came up with a new procedure to provide everyone with questions in advance because there was lots of favouritism, nepotism, and these appear to have been split along racial lines. The TPS seems to have accepted it but not formalized it as a process and I guess she got frustrated and went over their heads. I think this context is important to note.
That's nice...but she cheated and should be fired.
Playing the race card after the fact is a desperate tactic to distract from what she did willingly.

We hold police officers to a higher standard.
 
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You are playing the race card, by demanding that she be fired, only because she is black and helped black officers, despite the fact that she recommended sharing questions with EVERYONE, not just black officers. But at the same time you have shown yourself to be extraordinarily tolerant of a rape committed by a guy who relies on white identity politics to win elections. That discredits your assertions immediately.
Where did I say she should be fired because she's black?
Where did I say she should be fired only because she helped black officers?

Are you now desperate and fabricating things?
 

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Well considering she was qualified enough to get promoted and we've had a black police chief for years who was qualified, your attempt at trying to desperately play the race-card here fails.
Let's just leave it at she cheated and should be fired. You good with that?
Why do you think black police are unqualified for promotions, skoob?
That was who she was talking to, why did you claim they were 'unqualified'?
 

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Stop playing the race card.
Says the guy who plays the race card because he has no argument, then reinvents what others say. Weak.

Just go home. You have nothing to offer in this conversation.
 

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Why do you think black police are unqualified for promotions, skoob?
That was who she was talking to, why did you claim they were 'unqualified'?
Where did I say they weren't qualified or unqualified? Are you making shit up again?
In cheating the way she did, someone unqualified could be promoted.

It's really not a difficult concept.
If you could just pry yourself away from twisting this into a race issue and look at it as a high ranking police officer cheating the system by being biased herself, you will understand the essence of the argument here.

She should be fired.
 

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I offered plenty to this conversation including an actual recounting of events. You keep playing the race card and expressing fake outrage, while defending a guy guilty of rape. Nice try, Skoob.
What race card are you saying that I played exactly?

Is that the typical leftist tactic of accusing someone of being racist if they don't agree with them and then distracting to other things? Playbook move.

She cheated, was biased & racist herself, and put the public at risk.
She should be fired.

It's not a difficult concept. But keep twisting things if it makes you feel better.
 

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Adhering to the law, merit, fairness etc are values you do not care about. If you did you wouldn't have defended Trump's RAPE in the other thread. So am not buying what you selling. Sorry. 🤷‍♂️
Why are you interjecting the topic of another thread into this one exactly?
Distracting?
Pivoting?
Desperation?

You have no argument here. Move on.
 

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You said she should be fired for giving answers to 'unqualified' cops.
Why do you think black cops are unqualified?
Making more shit up I see?

Are you that desperate that you have to fabricate what you think other people say?

Your distraction only shows you don't have an argument.

Thanks
 

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I already addressed the topic of this thread. You are just desperate for people to join in on your bashing of this lady, which as you may notice, no one is. Looks like even your friends aren't buying what you selling, Skoob.
You addressed nothing except making excuses for someone who clearly was deemed to have cheated the system. Clearly when a verdict is not something you agree with you argue but when you do agree then you attack others if they don't.
Hypocrisy at its finest!
Others here have expressed similar minded opinions so not sure what you are trying to distract to now?

She should be fired.
 

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Making more shit up I see?

Are you that desperate that you have to fabricate what you think other people say?

Your distraction only shows you don't have an argument.

Thanks
Get your memory checked, skoob.
Why because it was on every local media outlet's major news lineup this week?
Why because it's related to Toronto where I live?

Are you not concerned about police being dishonest and risking public safety by promoting unqualified people into higher positions?
Why do you think black cops are unqualified?
 

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Get your memory checked, skoob.


Why do you think black cops are unqualified?
You need to get your eyes checked and your desperation is laughable.
I never said anything about black officers not being qualified. That's you playing your predictable race card in an effort to twist the narrative here.

Regardless of race...feeding answers could end up promoting unqualified officers. She just happened to pick black officers and was biased in her selection. Which is wrong as well.

Doesn't change anything. She should be fired.

Why do you support crooked cops?
 

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As far as I can tell, he hasn't. You are implying he is, simply because it involves black officers.
Sadly, when discussing issues that happen to involve people of different races...people who can't get past that and focus on the actual issue simply play the race card to shut down the discussion.
This is why many problems persist as people end up not wanting to have constructive discussion.
 

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Get your memory checked, skoob.


Why do you think black cops are unqualified?

He doesn't. You are implying he does because the officers are black, ergo, criticism of them is saying they are both unqualified and unqualified because they are black.

I am not unsympathetic to her plight and intentions.

However, in the civillian, private sector, this type of conspiring to, and cheating would be just cause for dismissal without severance. Same with academics. Expelled. It's actually one thing that can pierce a professor's tenure.

The major problem the everyman police officer is facing is that of trustworthiness of the police. Sure we say, there are bad apples, not to paint them all as corrupt liars who cheat the system. Even if a well-intentioned cop plants drugs on a KNOWN notorious drug dealer to get him off the street, that is unacceptable. There should be no tolerance for dishonesty or cheating in policing. And that goes especially for leadership.

The very fact that she felt these black officers needed the advantage of knowing the questions and answers suggests that this was a tough test and she herself had doubts of their abilities. Because she picked only black officers, she in fact demonstrated prejudice on the basis of their race.

Oh, and btw, they were only "qualified" to write the test. They "qualified" for their promotion by cheating on a test. So technically, since the test wqas based on a fraud, the tesst is therefore moot. Ergo, if the test was a qualifier for their promotion, they are by definition "unqualified".

Are they otherwise capable, if not exemplary candidates for promotion? Unfortunately, their accomplishment will forever be prejudiced by their cheating. As may any court proceedings they may be called to testify, or otherwise involved in. Like documenting drugs legitimately found on a drug dealer. Or gun found on a murderer.

Is this where you want the police force to go? Is this where 98% of the rank and file want things to go? I will tell yoou with authority that they do not. It kills them to have to cover and lie for the thin blue line.
 

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You need to get your eyes checked and your desperation is laughable.
I never said anything about black officers not being qualified. That's you playing your predictable race card in an effort to twist the narrative here.

Regardless of race...feeding answers could end up promoting unqualified officers. She just happened to pick black officers and was biased in her selection. Which is wrong as well.

Doesn't change anything. She should be fired.

Why do you support crooked cops?

Unfortunately, my good friend Frank has succumbed to the very prejudice he accuses others of. In another thread about some redneck kook in Peterborough, he just assumed because of who posted the news clip, that it was actually an anti-Palestinian "trope' in disguise.

Same here. Just because you are generally a kook, he and @Kautilya accuse you of racism. I think you are a kook too but I will read your posts for what each one is, and consider your argument for the argument you present.

Not saying that this prejudicial behaviour is not a normal human trait. After all, I despise @nottyboi, @oil&gas and @Addict2sex and take nothing they say seriously nor as any sort of truth. They are propagandists with an agenda. Even if not official. Even if they have been sucked into the world of disinformatzia.

But I try to understand where they are coming from to get a better picture of what is going on in the minds of opposing sides.
 

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You need to get your eyes checked and your desperation is laughable.
I never said anything about black officers not being qualified. That's you playing your predictable race card in an effort to twist the narrative here.
Yes you did, you complained that Clarke should be fired for giving black cops help, then you stated you think they are unqualified.
Now you're squirming.
 
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