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rgkv

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My ex's addiction started when she won 50,ooo on a two dollor scratch and win... Went to Vegas 7 times in one year...
 

out4fun

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Sounds like you made a similar agreement that I did with my ex.



You are obviously very astute and did not, nor did you want to fuck her over so it goes without saying (but I will say so anyways! LOL) to always be respectful, careful and non-antagonistic etc towards her. Hell hath no fury etc..
This is where I fail! One on one, I don't have a single ounce of respect for her and I am very clear on that point with her. In front of my kids though, you'll never hear me say anything other than she is the best mom ever.
 

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Sounds like you made a similar agreement that I did with my ex.

Mine stuck. But be aware that these agreements can be re-opened upon application to the court if your ex is so inclined.

Yes, I left a few things up my sleeve if it ever came to that. Honestly, I like my chances...
 

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One on one, I don't have a single ounce of respect for her and I am very clear on that point with her.
When you look back to before you married her, did she have traits like this where you knew there could be problems and you ignored your gut feel? OR did she dramatically change? When you said earlier she just coasted through and you were working......I'm thinking, she must have married you for your ability to support her and she brought nothing to the table?

Please tell because I have this theory that educated, hard working women are a better bet for a life partner than the party chicks of Toronto or the women with bare minimum education and careers. :)
 

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Please tell because I have this theory that educated, hard working women are a better bet for a life partner than the party chicks of Toronto or the women with bare minimum education and careers. :)


ABSOLUTELY!

The worst thing is a wife/girlfriend that has little education, few or no interests or hobbies.

Ones who consider "shopping" a hobby are bad news! Not because they spend the money, but because it demonstrates the level of their intelligence and values.

Sporty girls are good too because they have something to do to keep themselves physically active and the metabolic and hormonal benefits of same.

I recently saw an ad on one of the sugar daddy sites in which the girl was pleading for an "adventure". She said she loves shopping for designer shoes and handbags, getting her hair, nails and makeup done weekly and her favourite place in the world was "Vegas baby".

She was 45 and single! No fucking kidding!
 

out4fun

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When you look back to before you married her, did she have traits like this where you knew there could be problems and you ignored your gut feel? OR did she dramatically change? When you said earlier she just coasted through and you were working......I'm thinking, she must have married you for your ability to support her and she brought nothing to the table?

Please tell because I have this theory that educated, hard working women are a better bet for a life partner than the party chicks of Toronto or the women with bare minimum education and careers. :)
You are spot on with the exception that she is educated with exceptional academic credentials, but yes, I ignored the signs. Honestly, it wasn't that relevant to me wether she worked or not. I was pretty traditional thinking in that I felt it my responsibility to provide for my family. I married my high school sweetheart, so it's hard to say she had a long history of not working, but I never felt she had a workers mentality. The one thing I did overlook though was that she was a bit of an attention whore and enjoyed trying to make me a bit jealous. Eventually I grew immune to it, and later in life when she started fucking an old friend of mine, it lead to her exit. When I look back, it was to be expected. Ya, there were signs and I ignored them. No regrets.
 

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You are spot on with the exception that she is educated with exceptional academic credentials, but yes, I ignored the signs. Honestly, it wasn't that relevant to me wether she worked or not. I was pretty traditional thinking in that I felt it my responsibility to provide for my family. I married my high school sweetheart, so it's hard to say she had a long history of not working, but I never felt she had a workers mentality. The one thing I did overlook though was that she was a bit of an attention whore and enjoyed trying to make me a bit jealous. Eventually I grew immune to it, and later in life when she started fucking an old friend of mine, it lead to her exit. When I look back, it was to be expected. Ya, there were signs and I ignored them. No regrets.
That "traditional" mindset was good for the times of our parents where women were of a different caliber. And maybe men too. I think now, one has to marry an equal - equal in education, equal in income and equal in values and goals.

Attention whore, low self esteem ---- as dangerous as someone who is lazy and uneducated. An attention whore needs constant valdiation and unfortunately, some men are there to provide it.

Sorry - not commenting on your situation directly. I stay single and alone because I try to ensure I do not get stuck with some dumbass chick again who'll stress me out and later in my life lead me to lose everything.
 

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That "traditional" mindset was good for the times of our parents where women were of a different caliber. And maybe men too. I think now, one has to marry an equal - equal in education, equal in income and equal in values and goals.

Attention whore, low self esteem ---- as dangerous as someone who is lazy and uneducated. An attention whore needs constant valdiation and unfortunately, some men are there to provide it.

Sorry - not commenting on your situation directly. I stay single and alone because I try to ensure I do not get stuck with some dumbass chick again who'll stress me out and later in my life lead me to lose everything.
+1. I'm the same way myself. The financial risk is just too great especially with marriage and common-law relationships (which the law treats the same as marriage)...

out4fun: looks like you came out of the divorce relatively unscathed. Congratulations!
 

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I think there are tens of thousands of these casino stories in Ontario, yet the government is addicted to the dirty money from their immoral gambling enterprise.
No reason for the government to have to baby sit adults who can't excercise self control.
 

out4fun

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That "traditional" mindset was good for the times of our parents where women were of a different caliber. And maybe men too. I think now, one has to marry an equal - equal in education, equal in income and equal in values and goals.

Attention whore, low self esteem ---- as dangerous as someone who is lazy and uneducated. An attention whore needs constant valdiation and unfortunately, some men are there to provide it.

Sorry - not commenting on your situation directly. I stay single and alone because I try to ensure I do not get stuck with some dumbass chick again who'll stress me out and later in my life lead me to lose everything.
It might not be a comment on my situation, but it is how I would look at things going forward and I think you are spot on. Getting married is a gamble because if you partner with someone that doesn't care to contribute half, I guarantee that she'll be expecting half when things go south.
 

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It might not be a comment on my situation, but it is how I would look at things going forward and I think you are spot on. Getting married is a gamble because if you partner with someone that doesn't care to contribute half, I guarantee that she'll be expecting half when things go south.
AND on top of that - if someone has never worked for anything in their life, they can't appreciate what you have worked for to build. It won't take them a second thought to tear it all down. They lose, you lose but that person is blissfully ignorant of the sweat and hard work it takes for a guy to build a life and accumulate assets over his 30s and 40s and into 50s.

I shudder at the thought of divorce.
 

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You will not think you are saving money when you reach retirement and continue to pay, as I have...:frusty:
And we had no kids....
I am in the same boat as you and so are a few of my friends. It's a life sentence.

My biggest mistake was I was so kind to her, let her have the house in the best estates neighborhood in Mkham, agreed to pay a fairly big sum of spousal support. Her lawyer sucked her in saying he was in the biz for yrs and had never seen someone walk away that easy from that kind of property. I must have some hidden wealth and pushed her for forensic accounting. She fell for it, he made her feels good and milked her to death. They found nothing but found some old old records of some exported products which I exported 12 yrs ago still showing under my name. The judge wanted me to prove they were exported, but we only keep documents for 7 yrs as required by Rev Can. So I got screwed. They seized my business. She took over, destroyed the business in less than a yr. She got nothing. the lawyer got rich. I am still stuck with that spousal support, no rights to appeal until I can prove those craps. My pension and my old age security were garnished

The lesson I learn is never ever under estimate the power of an extremely pissed of woman. Most family lawyers prey on misery of broken families.
 

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I am in the same boat as you and so are a few of my friends. It's a life sentence.

My biggest mistake was I was so kind to her, let her have the house in the best estates neighborhood in Mkham, agreed to pay a fairly big sum of spousal support. Her lawyer sucked her in saying he was in the biz for yrs and had never seen someone walk away that easy from that kind of property. I must have some hidden wealth and pushed her for forensic accounting. She fell for it, he made her feels good and milked her to death. They found nothing but found some old old records of some exported products which I exported 12 yrs ago still showing under my name. The judge wanted me to prove they were exported, but we only keep documents for 7 yrs as required by Rev Can. So I got screwed. They seized my business. She took over, destroyed the business in less than a yr. She got nothing. the lawyer got rich. I am still stuck with that spousal support, no rights to appeal until I can prove those craps. My pension and my old age security were garnished

The lesson I learn is never ever under estimate the power of an extremely pissed of woman. Most family lawyers prey on misery of broken families.
Wow. Sorry to hear things went so upside down for you. The divorce laws are fucked. I came out of things well, but these horror stories would scare the shit out of any man that decides to marry. Once the lawyers get their teeth into things, nothing goes well.

My wife was also advised to get a forensic audit on my business and I told her that if she wanted to go that route she was welcome to take the business and pay me support. Things went smooth after that.
 

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Can someone tell for child support, which line from your income tax assessment is the Income based to arrive at the child support amount??
is it employment income from line 101, or Total income from line 150 or taxable income from line 260??

I think probably line 150, but I want to confirm?
Thx
 

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My wife was also advised to get a forensic audit on my business and I told her that if she wanted to go that route she was welcome to take the business and pay me support. Things went smooth after that.
Well played!

I have a cousin living in the States, who divorced many years ago. She worked at an established company and he struggled to get his own business running. When they divorced, he petitioned for support. I don't think he got it but I don't think she expected such a broadside hit. They didn't have kids.
When she remarried she said she told her new husband that she never wants to go through that ordeal again, so if he ever wants out, she'll have to kill him. BTW they're still married 20+ years later.
 

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Sounds exactly like what happened to a buddy of mine. She burned through $800k at the casino's in 2 years and is now living in a basement apt and working as a cleaner in a nursing home.

I think there are tens of thousands of these casino stories in Ontario, yet the government is addicted to the dirty money from their immoral gambling enterprise.
No reason for the government to have to baby sit adults who can't excercise self control.
In theory that's true. However, isn't that why we have prisons?
 

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No reason for the government to have to baby sit adults who can't excercise self control.
No reason for the government to incite, encourage and employ predatory, exploitive marketing practices to lose their self control.

Gambling used to be a criminal enterprise as it is caustic to society. It's just that our government is now running the gambling mafia.
 

out4fun

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Can someone tell for child support, which line from your income tax assessment is the Income based to arrive at the child support amount??
is it employment income from line 101, or Total income from line 150 or taxable income from line 260??

I think probably line 150, but I want to confirm?
Thx
150...total taxable income, would be the norm, but there are liberties that the family court can take with that. If you sandbag, or if you are self employed and have non taxable advantages then you can have an even higher income imputed.
 
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