Spitfire video
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tboy said:
With the FW-190 they actually built over 20,000 during the war, so its not that they weren't enough so much as they entered the war abit late.
Also the Spitfire always will be the most beautiful plane out of WWII by far and perhaps all time. No other plane compares in beauty.
Tom Cruise in the Luftwafe?
new film Valkyrie to come out next year
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm229480704/tt0985699
new film Valkyrie to come out next year
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm229480704/tt0985699
Thanks for the link.herames said:
Why'd they sell the Corsair? Sounds like a criminal act to me.
Rememeber.
J. F. Kennedy Junior. I once thought that it might be cool to fly your own plane or helicopter. JFK Jr. was not a proffesional pilot and things can happen. I also saw a video of a guy who built his own helicopter and when he tried to fly it the first time the rotor shattered and a piece hit him in his face. All his new found wealth could not fix his face.
J. F. Kennedy Junior. I once thought that it might be cool to fly your own plane or helicopter. JFK Jr. was not a proffesional pilot and things can happen. I also saw a video of a guy who built his own helicopter and when he tried to fly it the first time the rotor shattered and a piece hit him in his face. All his new found wealth could not fix his face.
If you've never been to Rhinebeck NY, I'd highly recommend it!stang said:
http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/
They fly WW1 aircraft from a grass runway literally in the middle of nowhere. I was there 10 years ago and loved it.
As for the original Spitfire thread:
The Spitfire was arguably the best INTERCEPTOR of WW2, but had a limited range. The best OVERALL fighter is generally viewed as the P-51 Mustang as others have pointed out.
My personal favourite aircraft of WW2 is the Grumman Hellcat. I loved those big ugly planes with their honking radial engines! It took balls of steel to fly from the carriers, especially in the days before satellite navigation and GPS. If you ditched in the Pacific your chances of survival weren't great.
WRT the Luftwaffe:
Although the FW-190 was a superior aircraft to the ME-109, what's interesting is that many of the top German Aces chose to fly the ME-109, most notably Erich Hartmann, the top Ace of all time with 352 kills
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Hartmann
just watched a show on the american History Channel "Boneyards: Aircrafts" looks like Redbull is making shit loads of money on the return of their one RedBalls Drink...in the episode they have a whole restored a whole fleet of vintage ww 2 planes.
http://www.history.com/minisites/boneyard
http://www.redbull.com/en/ArticlePage.1128277264167-1807893563.0/htmlArticlePage.action
http://www.history.com/minisites/boneyard
http://www.redbull.com/en/ArticlePage.1128277264167-1807893563.0/htmlArticlePage.action
INDN_LOVER said:As for the original Spitfire thread:
The Spitfire was arguably the best INTERCEPTOR of WW2, but had a limited range. The best OVERALL fighter is generally viewed as the P-51 Mustang as others have pointed out.
WRT the Luftwaffe:
Although the FW-190 was a superior aircraft to the ME-109, what's interesting is that many of the top German Aces chose to fly the ME-109, most notably Erich Hartmann, the top Ace of all time with 352 kills
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Hartmann
Thanks for the Hartmann link which in turn links to a number of other interesting wikis. I don't think Hartmann CHOSE to fly the 109; rather, this was the standard German fighter on the Ostfront through the later years of WW2, the 190's being mainly deployed on the Channel Coast and over Germany to counterbalance the Allied fighters which were arguably better than the Russian midwar designs.
There have been many theories as to why Hartmann and his comrades scored so very highly. Apart from the man's indisputable, incredible talent as a fighter pilot, historians have speculated that the sheer number of fast, short range missions flown by the Luftwaffe over the Russian Front generated an enormous number of kill opportunities and the relatively short distances involved allowed a relatively easy exit opportunity back to the safety of German held areas in case of trouble. (Contrast this with the situation involving Allied fliers in the West who were out of the War if they got seriously hit over Germany or France - viz. BoB aces Stanford Tuck and Douglas Bader).
BTW, I would take the Spit XIV over the P-51 any day in a dogfight. Leaving aside the Stang's range edge, late model spits had a number of advantages over the P-51, including maneuverability and quick killing power from the twin 20mm Hispano-Suizas.
INDN_LOVER said:
All too horribly true. Most Battle of Britain Me-109 pilots took a loaded pistol on missions with them. It might come in handy if they had to crash land in England and the locals tried to lynch them. Also handy if they had to ditch in the Channel or North Sea and faced the prospect of dying cruelly and gradually of exposure in the water.
My 2 cents, going from memory when I was more into these sorts of things. The Spitfire and the P-51 had two different design goals -- the Spifire was an interceptor, while the P-51 was aiming to be a long range escort fighter to protect the bomber missions. In the hands of experts, the later model Spitfire would likely win over the P-51 if they met, as the P-51 had some trade-offs to allow for the range.
The usefulness of the P-51 was that it could fly deep into enemy territory and still kick ass.
For P-51 fans who've never seen Empire of the Sun, check out this clip, starting at about minute 3. A young Christian Bale is interned in a Japanese camp, and one day US forces come for a visit. "P-51! Cadillac of the sky!"
http://ww2file.wordpress.com/2007/09/07/p-51-cadillac-of-the-sky/
The usefulness of the P-51 was that it could fly deep into enemy territory and still kick ass.
For P-51 fans who've never seen Empire of the Sun, check out this clip, starting at about minute 3. A young Christian Bale is interned in a Japanese camp, and one day US forces come for a visit. "P-51! Cadillac of the sky!"
http://ww2file.wordpress.com/2007/09/07/p-51-cadillac-of-the-sky/
Colonel Count von Stauffenberg, was an incredibly brave man and a true German Patriot. He was an Officer in the Wehrmacht Heer (Army) not the Luftwaffe.herames said:
His children have expressed concern about the movie particularly the Scientology connection.
tersey said:
Opt for the hardcore fighter fan's choice: Il-2 Sturmovik. A far better and far more realistic fighter sim than th Microsoft garbage. You can get the whole series of basic games plus upgrades for under $100. Here's the forum link for the users' boards.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/cfrm/f/25910613
For radial engined Pacific Theatre fighters I'd have to go with the F4U Corsair.INDN_LOVER said:
Likewise there is a nice scene in A Bridge Too Far of a photo reconnaissance Spitfire and a Dutch Teenager.benstt said:
However, read the book - the movie is nice but unfortunately license was taken with the facts.
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