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basketcase

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Such a dilemma. Should the right condemn this because it's against the idea of free speech and a reason to criticize Muslims or should they praise it because it is anti-LGBTQ+?
 

basketcase

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That's why there are so many problems in the world. The West telling other countries how they should live or run their countries.
Why shouldn't we criticize things we see as wrong? There's a great argument for the West not forcing people to change but that's not the same as criticizing.
 

Valcazar

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Actually due to a brief shot of a Pride flag Some Evangelicals have also boycotted it. Add in SpiderGwen as somehow "woke" and its not about one religion but fanatics and bigots.

So yes the Muslim nations all wrong. But please don't try to say the more militant Christians are any better.
"Spider Gwen is Trans" is the thing upsetting them.
 

Butler1000

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"Spider Gwen is Trans" is the thing upsetting them.
Thats a meme. Not in the movie. And its queer activists trying to project on to characters in at best flimsy evidence in background shots. To rile up fans.

Its just trolling.
 

Dutch Oven

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Nothing appears in an animated film by accident. This is not a stray coffee cup on the set of Game of Thrones. Time and money had to be spent creating the frames that included the trans poster on a wall. Someone at Sony WANTED to challenge those who do not want children exposed to this topic or messaging. Sony assumed that someone would be paying attention and got what they wanted - attention for their film as being somehow "brave" enough to risk offending some of the potential audience.

So phoney. Sony calculated the market for this release before the budget got approved. That market did not include Mulsim fundamentalist markets. This is marketing, not societal advocacy. These media companies would happily promote genocide if their marketing department forecasted a massive profit.

Releasing films is still a risky business. A few major releases that flop will fix the problem for a long time.
 

Darts

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Releasing films is still a risky business. A few major releases that flop will fix the problem for a long time.
Don't remember his name but I once heard a big shot producer say that the people in movies should look like their audience. Not to pick on them but Melissa McCarthy and Chrissy Metz do not look like Ava Gardner (what a woman) but they do look like people in the audience.

If I wanted to see people who look like movie/video audiences I can just go to the mall. Or, go to a threatre and watch the audience there.
 

Butler1000

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Nothing appears in an animated film by accident. This is not a stray coffee cup on the set of Game of Thrones. Time and money had to be spent creating the frames that included the trans poster on a wall. Someone at Sony WANTED to challenge those who do not want children exposed to this topic or messaging. Sony assumed that someone would be paying attention and got what they wanted - attention for their film as being somehow "brave" enough to risk offending some of the potential audience.

So phoney. Sony calculated the market for this release before the budget got approved. That market did not include Mulsim fundamentalist markets. This is marketing, not societal advocacy. These media companies would happily promote genocide if their marketing department forecasted a massive profit.

Releasing films is still a risky business. A few major releases that flop will fix the problem for a long time.
At almost 400 million so far it looks like a 2 second background shot hasn't affected things much. Don't you know geeks are long time anti bullying advocates? The minority online who hide behind keyboards will still watch it.
 

Dutch Oven

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At almost 400 million so far it looks like a 2 second background shot hasn't affected things much.
They wouldn't have included the scene if they thought it would cost them a meaningful amount of money (that would take REAL bravery). Rather, they are hoping the publicity around the ban nets them more money. My point is that this is calculated by Sony, and a phoney form of advocacy.
 

Butler1000

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They wouldn't have included the scene if they thought it would cost them a meaningful amount of money (that would take REAL bravery). Rather, they are hoping the publicity around the ban nets them more money. My point is that this is calculated by Sony, and a phoney form of advocacy.
Ok.....I personally don't have a problem with this. I consider it a civil rights issue and if content creators want to advocate for human rights then have at it.

Don't get me wrong. I think there are some extremists on the trans side as well being boosted well beyond what they should by media and social media. But this is not something I consider to be worth worrying about.
 

Valcazar

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Thats a meme. Not in the movie. And its queer activists trying to project on to characters in at best flimsy evidence in background shots. To rile up fans.

Its just trolling.
If it is in enough of the movie to have sponsored a meme campaign in support, it is in enough of the movie to sponsor a campaign to ban.

I was just pointing out that this is what they are responding to.
 
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