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fuji

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I signed one a few weeks ago.

Reading it, it didn't say anything about the purchase of sexual services. Just that I wasn't allowed to discuss anything about the encounter at all, nor document it electronically.
Sure, but if in fact sex was exchanged for money that contract cannot compel you to stay silent about that, it is unenforceable. I am sure you would keep your mouth shut with or without a contract, and no harm to you in signing it, but post c36 it is no longer enforceable because it would be trying to require you to be an accessory after the fact to a crime.
 

Chloë.

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Sure, but if in fact sex was exchanged for money that contract cannot compel you to stay silent about that, it is unenforceable. I am sure you would keep your mouth shut with or without a contract, and no harm to you in signing it, but post c36 it is no longer enforceable because it would be trying to require you to be an accessory after the fact to a crime.
That's very true. Haven't actually thought about it like this. Definitely an unfortunate time for all.
 

Titalian

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That's very true. Haven't actually thought about it like this. Definitely an unfortunate time for all.
You no what Chloe, forget about what he's saying with his scare tactics, as far as I know, no one has gotten arrested yet. Just like I was predicting.
Do you know why he was preaching this, Because he was shitting in his pants and he wanted everyone else to feel the same way. Well looks Like
it didn't turn out that way. Don't worry about it, as long as you run a clean organised operation, no one will bother you.
 

kherg007

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I think we need to keep in mind, as mentioned by others, that NDAs are civil affairs. Meaning there can be financial penalties, etc. But not criminal, unless you went into it with malice aforethought and it can be proven you signed the NDA with no intention of honoring it and thus were committing fraud in the signing. Something though like violating a government security clearance is criminal offence. So disclosing the meeting is a fine; if disclosing a new way to track terrorists means gaol (aka jail in N.America). And as far as Chloe's concern above, the NDA is about the meeting. And, of course, that meeting is for companionship only, as all your meetings are........(dramatic pause as everyone recomposes themselves...). Hey, if mutually agreed upon things happen, they happen. But if Chloe (heaven forbid!) were to be assaulted, sexual or otherwise, the NDA would not protect the perp. So given the meeting was for companionship...and was not a purchase of sexual services, you'd be fine c-36 wise, as that did not ban sex between consenting adults, as far as I know. Many of my meetings involve 2 way NDA's, (neither side can disclose) and then we get down to business. So, in Chloe's case, the business meeting got carried away and the guy was so overwhelmed by Chloe's beauty, grace, smarts, and charm, and Chloe was star struck by this guy and his accomplishments...well, they're human folks... (ps I'm not a solicitor/barrister/lawyer/QC or anything like that but just a guy who has had to deal with this stuff alot).
 

FrostyMomma

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must be really exciting to see all these celebrities? How is your regular Joe Schmoe going to compete? (ooh no you have to cancel)
 

WestCoaster

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Sometimes I think the NDA is more about consent and avoidance of claims of rape than it can really impact an SP with limited resources financially. A 1.5 million penalty for example, is any court likely going to enforce that given the services rendered. I think it's a scare tactic to ensure the lady doesn't run to the tabloids. Keeping the cameras and cells with the bodyguards prevents a Prince Harry in Vegas type situation.
 

ultistar

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must be really exciting to see all these celebrities? How is your regular Joe Schmoe going to compete? (ooh no you have to cancel)
Don't we all pay the same rate? :)
Oh are you saying Schmoes'll get bumped by the celeb?
Mmmm, sorry about that :)
 

fuji

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Sometimes I think the NDA is more about consent and avoidance of claims of rape than it can really impact an SP with limited resources financially. A 1.5 million penalty for example, is any court likely going to enforce that given the services rendered. I think it's a scare tactic to ensure the lady doesn't run to the tabloids. Keeping the cameras and cells with the bodyguards prevents a Prince Harry in Vegas type situation.
Before c36 a court would certainly have enforced it. Now it is under a cloud because you can't contract someone to stay silent about a crime. Not suggesting that many SP's would, especially those getting high profile clients, it would be career suicide to go public. But the NDA itself likely not enforceable.

Imagine now the media sensation if a celebrity tried to enforce an NDA against an SP and the action gets thrown out of court.

Not gonna happen.
 

HobbyHorse

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Fuji is correct. As a general rule an NDA is unenforceable to the extent it covers illegal acts. If any SPs are wanting more personal and specific advice on an NDA, I will waive my usual retainer and accept payment "in kind"... Oh, wait... "payment" may itself be offside C36... so i'll do pro bono if you do pro bono...
 

Sargeant

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Just once before you initially meet the person.

But a lot of the times, depending on who it is or how many times you have met, they still will make you leave your cell phone and purse in another room or with security.
Fascinating
 

AK-47

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You'd be surprised at how common they are.

But unfortunately this is a reason for NDA's.

We can't kiss and tell
Have you ever banged any celebrities who didnt care about signing an NDA??
 

matisse

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Just wondering whether these "celebrities" take their pants off like the rest of us - one leg at a time. I guess the SPs here are in a unique position to answer this question.
 

AK-47

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yes same. In my case, they don't book themselves, but once at the appointment you recognize who it is. great tips though and gifts
Whats the largest tip you've gotten?
 

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Bianca Bailey

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I agree.. Famous or not we are all the same, no better and equal.. Glamour is nice but it's not everything. It is a must to keep your mouth shut no matter who your client may be and in a SP's personal life as well. You don't need a NDA for that, common sense... It's a small world so you have to be very careful, 6 degrees of separation and circulation.
Why should famous people be any different than us ordinary folk. I sure wouldn't want an SP coming on the boards and saying 'I saw S........ C........... the other day'. My go-to girl knows my real name, same for a few others with whom I've had a connection (more than penis in vagina). If I got outed probably only the family would be affected, and a few friends and acquaintances. If a star got outed, IMHO they have a lot more at stake.

So that's why SP's shouldn't kiss and tell.
 
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