Sopranos last night

nautilus

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Any one else think that last night's episode was out of place?
Seems like it didn't really fit in with everything else. Don't want to talk about details here, but it was kinda disappointing.
 
I actually really enjoyed it.For me it was this seasons best yet. They are building up to something obviously with Tony's behaviour.

How did it not fit in?
 
I think they were simply building the air of inevitability that something will go wrong. Tony is paranoid and out of control, no good can come from that. Last week I think was about how all the talk of being a "family" is a bunch of BS. The episode showed that for all the talk, each of them are on their own. This week I think showed that their appetites are insatiable. There's never enough money or highs for these guys and they sure as hell don't like anyone who is in control of their addictions.

I think they are doing well at exposing all the "mob myths", just not sure where its all headed...
 
marc anderson said:
I actually really enjoyed it.For me it was this seasons best yet. They are building up to something obviously with Tony's behaviour.

I thought it was the best episode this season too. Is it just me or is Tony finding it more and more difficult to get people to go on a boat with him?

marc anderson said:
How did it not fit in?

It is strange to see Tony's character go into such a level of self destruct. He was always paranoid but until recently, there was little evidence that his gambling problems were so severe. Maybe that's what nautilus meant?
 
I thought it was the best yet, man I thought Paulie was going to end up in the drink
 
I didn't want to say it, but yes, the gambling. Suddenly he is an out of control gambling junkie, betting on horses based on their names, and looking to bet 100k on the Jets.
He is in the book making business, doesn't play in the high stakes poker games that he or Junior run, and now suddenly he is the poster child for Gamblers Anonymous.
Too much of a leap too fast.
 
Johnny Boy - You must never gamble son, it always leads to trouble.

Tony has always had a gambling problems but with Vito's proceeds from construction and his lucrative partnership with Johnny Sack, it was never an issue. With Vito and Johnny gone, Tony's gambling is becoming a problem.

We are now witnessing the consequences of Vito's demise...excellent episode.

I still think Furio will re-appear.
 
I agree that some elements were out of place.

We hadn't seen anything about Carmella's spec house for a long time. Also, Chris has been off in movie lala land before and very distant from Tony. Now he's back in the crew.
 
lookingforitallthetime said:
How come you've never watched it?

Is Coronation Street on at the same time?



Never seen any of the Godfather movies either. I'm odd I suppose but I personally don't see what is at all acceptable about a show that glamorizes and puts a "semi friendly" human face to the Mob. I am not saying others can't watch it, they can do as they please but to make organized criminals out as some kind of acceptable cult figure is just something i am not on side with.

Not moralizing here or trying to pursuade anyone else not to watch just stating my personal view.



Flame away.
 
LancsLad said:
Am I the only poster on TERB that has never watched this show.??????????

I think you're the only one on the PLANET who has never watched the show lol

As for Tony's "sudden" gambling habit, yeah, sure, they showed him gambling before but it has NEVER been brought up. EVER. Frankly up until now, he's been a tightwad with his money and I can't see him gambling any large amount. As for his toys, NO way was either the flybridge boat or the searay a 1.25 M boat. Pepsi came out my nose when they said that. As for Hesch's statement about the way he spends money, frankly that's out of place too. Sure he has a "nice" house, and a "nice" boat but frankly, they aren't outside his means by a long shot. Just look at his cars? Carm drives a xxxx wagon and he drives an escalade. Hell, if he was driving a gallardo or a Bentley, I could see that comment.

Sure, they're setting him up for something but IMHO they are introducing all this crap too soon, too quickly. I know they only have like 8 episodes left but if they were planning Tony to have all this financial trouble, they should have started last season.

I thought it was a good thing that chick dumped AJ. I mean, T and C put up with her while he was dating but her become part of the family? LOL ya, RIGHT.

I think all the backpeddling showing them to be no-class ignorants has been happening for a while now. I like the A & E ad that has them misquoting all kinds of sayings like: revenge is like cold cuts lol. I think this is also do as an homage to all the italian amercians who put up a stink about how the sopranos portrays them in a stereotypical manner.

I too am looking forward to see how they end it but I have a bad feeling it is gonna be LAME LAME LAME.

(BTW: thank GOD we had an episode without that brain dead idiot Janice...)
 
LancsLad said:
Never seen any of the Godfather movies either. I'm odd I suppose but I personally don't see what is at all acceptable about a show that glamorizes and puts a "semi friendly" human face to the Mob. I am not saying others can't watch it, they can do as they please but to make organized criminals out as some kind of acceptable cult figure is just something i am not on side with.

Not moralizing here or trying to pursuade anyone else not to watch just stating my personal view.



Flame away.

No need for flames. I respect your point of view Lancs.

I'm a sucker for a good story and thought the first 2 Godfather movies were cinamatic masterpieces.

As for the Sopranos, I was hooked from the very first episode. :)
 
I agree, no flaming is required but to respond to your statement about the show: I don't know that it glamorizes the mob, in fact, if you watch it closely it does a lot to show just how petty and classless they really are. ie: Chris' heroin addiction, how he used to beat his gf, Tony's infedelity, Paulie's living in a house alone with plastic all over the furniture, JUnior under house arrest in his piddly run down bungalow, their abuse of the english language, their hypocritical nature etc etc. OH and the main plot of Tony needing to see a shrink because of his insecurities and self-involved nature.

There's a lot of other scenes where the producers show just how tacky and cheesy they really are (for eg: when tony buys carm a porsche cayenne and she goes around showing it off until Pussy's wife shows her up with her ZR-1 vette that she bought herself).
 
Tonys explained his excessive gambling last night when he said that he survived a gun shot wound and he feels like he should live it up.
 
Hockey_MLnut said:
Tonys explained his excessive gambling last night when he said that he survived a gun shot wound and he feels like he should live it up.

Yeah, well, IMHO that's a lame ass way to have someone magically have a gambling addiction.....
 
Hockey_MLnut said:
Tonys explained his excessive gambling last night when he said that he survived a gun shot wound and he feels like he should live it up.

Please. That was just his way of getting out of the doghouse with Carmella and justifying it all. Sounds like the reasoning of an addict to me.