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Some dude just tried to FILM one of TGF ladies

booboobear

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twinkle said:
Sure you may not, but as a lawyer, you cant be that naive...... you should know that some people are that crazy and are not thinking about what laws they are breaking and the punishment they may receive in the moment. STRANGER things have happened! ( Someone once told me there was an escort who provided incalls and would threaten and beat up clients with a baseball bat and then rob them if they tried to leave without paying her if they did not find her attractive. She finally got arrested but did not care and spent a very short time- a month in jail) Look how packed our criminal courts are and our jails, obviously there are MANY people who when in rage do not think or CARE about the consequences of their actions, and act unreasonably, illegally. And the 'smart' criminals cover up thier actions very well to avoid arrest and prosecution. Who knows she might be crazy enough to get someone else to smash the guys car or house many months down the line or have someone wait and hide to beat him up. And if someone does not have enough evidence to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt they are out of luck. Saying I think it was escort A because I privately videotaped her 5 months ago will not hold up in court.

I recently saw a road rage fight, in broad daylight at Parliment and Bloor, . If it was the States he would have probably got his gun, like we have seen in the news on many occassions.

You never know what you may trigger in someone, some people maybe hiding how crazy and deranged they really are.
Oagre is right i believe videotaping is wrong without consent but
violence to the degree you are saying could happen is also illegal.
We all know there are people who over react but would you like to use your example someone going after you with a tire iron because you cut them off , yes this happens but it only proves these people are morons. You are also right some people don't care about consequences like people who kill for $ 10 I just don't understand why someone would give up 20 to life for $ 10.
I don't know whether you have ever done anything wrong in life but if you do i don't think you deserve a pyscho reaction.
 

sekharck

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With mutual consent, I filmed my sessions withh Sandi of DDS Escorts in Seattle, WA. She was on a visit to Toronto when I happened to be there on business. As this was known, we had made prior arrangements with her agency & set up 2 appointments.

She is one awesome beautiful girl and ex penthouse pet. If you have the resources, fly out to Seattle and meet her. You won't be disappointed.

Filming without SP's consent is illegal and can be prosecuted.
 

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As an employer of over 50 people I have had discussions with a lawyer regarding the legality of recording conversations. It would seem that in Canada it is legal to record (including video) a conversation as long as 1 of the party's involoved is aware of it!
I've never asked (not interested in recording myself and someone else) if this would include videotaping a consual sex act between two adults.
It's also my understanding that in the States the "one sided" recording is an invasion of privacy. If I'm right, I think that the moderators should delete this thread in the hopes that a bunch of hobbyists with more lax moral standards don't start taping!
 

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imhumorless said:
[BIf I'm right, I think that the moderators should delete this thread in the hopes that a bunch of hobbyists with more lax moral standards don't start taping! [/B]
I thought the same thing at first as well regarding the mods having the thread deleted. I am positive that some men have gotten the idea from reading the thread. The immoral/classless guys will do it anyway.....But this thread also gives a HEADS UP TO THE LADIES IN THE BIZ to watch out for this type of behaviour!

Obviously this behaviour is just as wrong. Lets say an incall escort was privately videotaping her clients during the session? I am pretty sure if her clients some how discovered this.......that at least one guy would be sooooo upset, he might flip the hell out, and do 'something' without thinking, in the heat of the moment, in anger ......and she would probably regret her behaviour for the rest of her life and never repeat her private videotaping behaviour again!

But.........the next guy who tries this may do it to the wrong SP..... and just might get a tire iron upside the head, or slashed tires or trashed home or worse....... from a ladies driver or boyfriend or 'handler' or whoever..... who returns to his place of residence.
Thats the risk/chance some guys are willing to take, I guess.
I am sure he will never repeat his hidden videotaping activites!
 

booboobear

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twinkle said:

Obviously this behaviour is just as wrong. Lets say an incall escort was privately videotaping her clients during the session? I am pretty sure if her clients some how discovered this.......that at least one guy would be sooooo upset, he might flip the hell out, and do 'something' without thinking, in the heat of the moment, in anger ......and she would probably regret her behaviour for the rest of her life and never repeat her private videotaping behaviour again!

But.........the next guy who tries this may do it to the wrong SP..... and just might get a tire iron upside the head, or slashed tires or trashed home or worse....... from a ladies driver or boyfriend or 'handler' or whoever..... who returns to his place of residence.
Thats the risk/chance some guys are willing to take, I guess.
I am sure he will never repeat his hidden videotaping activites!
First of all let me say that videotaping someone without consent is wrong totally.
Having said that if someone does it you seem to advocate violence whether you know it or not , you have posted several threads with the same idea , boyfriend tire iron etc. While you don't say you ok it you seem to say you understand, so if you cut me off if traffic and endanger my life or my family will you understand if i hit you with a baseball bat and leave you a vegetable for the rest of your life or does type of justice only apply to an SP who gets taped illegally.
 

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booboobear said:
First of all let me say that videotaping someone without consent is wrong totally.
Having said that if someone does it you seem to advocate violence whether you know it or not , you have posted several threads with the same idea , boyfriend tire iron etc. While you don't say you ok it you seem to say you understand, so if you cut me off if traffic and endanger my life or my family will you understand if i hit you with a baseball bat and leave you a vegetable for the rest of your life or does type of justice only apply to an SP who gets taped illegally.
Whatever booboobear!
I am not going to get into it with you. Really no not worth it.
 

havingfun

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twinkle said:
Whatever booboobear!
I am not going to get into it with you. Really no not worth it.
There is a strong undercurrent of anger in Ms. Twinkle's posts that occasionally bubbles to the surface. I do not know what wounds she has suffered to cause this anger. But I plan to stay out of her way.

Sometimes when I read her posts I think the timing would be right for her to consider a career change or an extended vacation.
 

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havingfun said:
There is a strong undercurrent of anger in Ms. Twinkle's posts that occasionally bubbles to the surface. I do not know what wounds she has suffered to cause this anger. But I plan to stay out of her way.

Sometimes when I read her posts I think the timing would be right for her to consider a career change or an extended vacation.
Perception is everything, I guess!

On quite a few occassions, boobear in his posts has said condescending things towards escorts and what he thinks about us charging 'extremely high rates', and what he thinks we should really be charging. I believe he has expressed his 'true' opinions about what he really feels about girls in this industry! But HAVINGFUN you never jumped on those posts to say anything to him? Very telling. Try psychoanalysing that!

But I guess people only SEE what they want to SEE!!

Yes you are right *at times* (not all of my posts-as your incorrect 'blanketed' statement suggested, you obviously have not read all of them) some of my posts are said in an angry tone, and for which I make no apologies for.
Even happy go lucky Goober, left the board for a while. So yes some of the posters on this board can and have angered me and others, and I HAVE expressed that anger in my posts.
And there have been too many pms I have recieved from ladies and gents that have agreed but were too nervous to post what I did. So your perception is not the perception of everyone elses on this board.

Havingfun, you know too little and pressume too little about me.
Yes you are right sometimes I am an angry, bitch *at times* (when I feel it is necessary because someone is acting like a bastard, and I have no qualms in showing my bitchy)..... and at other times I am a happy, funloving person (and this is the side, as a smart business women, that I show my nice respectful clients, and trust me my many postitive reviews attest to that, and I have recieved too many pms requesting appointments....so perception is really everything!). Isnt it wonderful that I am not ONE DIMENSIONAL and have a variety of real human emotions, like other human beings. YES escorts too are and are allowed to be REAL women, REAL multi faceted people, because...........even though we provide a fantasy we are not a fantasy!

As I said before we all have MANY DIFFERENT HATS depending on the sitaution. And terb is only one small situation in my life and in yours. And to anyone who feels my or any other posters, posts on this baord is a 'reflection' of all SPs or all hobbyists, is too simple-minded in the first place.

Do I act one way, and wear th same hat in every situation, with everyone I am in contact with (i.e. on terb, escorts talking privately to other escorts, with my clients, with employeers, fellow employees, in the office and boardroom compared to the office Christmas party, friends and parents, wife or husband or children, cashier at the grocery check out, etc.)? Obviously not, just like you dont!

I think we have all thought we knew someone and the aspects of thier persoanlity, until we saw them in a different situation and under different circumstances, and then realized there is a lot more to them then we initially thought (i.e. a boss or fellow employee at the company X-mas party, a close friend we go on vacation with, or a person we move in with!) Do I show every aspect of me and and my life, my personality and my views, feelings and emotions to everyone. Of course not, just like many of you (us) whose friends and family WOULD NEVER guess in a million years that you are involved in this hobby and post on this board? Wouldnt they be shocked? And if they found out.... what kind of blanketed, single minded, totally negative statement would they make about us and our overall character, integrity and personality? So just because I respond angrily in some of my posts, with some (not all) of the members of this board.....I guarantee you I am not always an angry person. Some of you guys would be very shocked if you really knew who I am, very shocked indeed!

(Twinkle taking her terb hat off...... as I go get ready for my Thanksgiving dinner with family and friends.)
 

booboobear

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Perception is everything, I guess!

On quite a few occassions, boobear in his posts has said condescending things towards escorts and what he thinks about us charging 'extremely high rates', and what he thinks we should really be charging. I believe he has expressed his 'true' opinions about what he really feels about girls in this industry! But HAVINGFUN you never jumped on those posts to say anything to him? Very telling. Try psychoanalysing that!

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Perhaps other people did not jump on my posts because they agree with me. I don't know what you think my " true " opinions are about sp 's but I find it funny that you can jump to conclusions and yet when someone does the same to you
you resent it. I guess I am not allowed to express my opinion if it is different from yours.
 

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Many have claimed that videotaping an SP is illegal and can be prosecuted, or that it is an invasion of privacy. Legally speaking, it appears NOT to be criminal and NOT to be an invasion of privacy. That's legally speaking; obviously according to many peoples morals it is a moral invasion of privacy.

At any rate, in Canada it seems that you can videotape or otherwise record anything that happens on your own private property, especially if you are a participant.

I am not a lawyer, but that is my reading. Has anybody got a case to cite, or the text of a law, or legal opinion to quote, which would imply that videotaping an encounter between an SP and yourself in your own home would be in any way illegal, or result in any civil liability? This is all assuming you keep the tape private, for your own uses. The moment you distribute it publically I would think it's a different matter, but I'm not even clear on why it would be different.
 
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