Perhaps because that is what Kevin committed to before he was threatened with losing the speakership
How about naming some of the shenanigans. Be specific.
Sleepy Joe could be getting impeached!!
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C'mon, you use to like to have serious, thoughtful discussions about political races. Your falling into the habit of some here who believe every thought that doesn't advance the Democrats has to be contradicted.
Bill Weld had been out of office for thirteen years in 2020. Joe Walsh had his fifteen minutes of fame perpetuated by Fox News appearances. Weld won zero delegates in New Hampshire a neighboring state that would theoretically be more favorable to him.
If you take this literal argument that Trump had primary challenges to it's fullest extreme, then Robert Kennedy's campaign is a serious challenge to President Biden. Obviously I do not. And obviously if you thought so, you would have mentioned Kennedy.
My opinion is Gavin Newsom can crush President Biden in the primaries. Newsom's strength vis-à-vis Biden isn't the question. The question is what kind of primary competition evolves/devolves. Once the dam breaks there will be a flood of Democratic contenders. Everyone is watching each other to see if anyone makes a move on Biden. These again are just opinions.
People posting on social media political threads never seem to leave themselves a path of retreat. Wall Street Journal editorial on the Biden aging issue left an impression on me. "He’s two months from his 81st birthday, and aging can go the same way Hemingway described bankruptcy: gradually and then suddenly." Quoting a CNN polling article, "roughly three-quarters" are concerned about the “current level of physical and mental competence.” It doesn't get better from here.
Yes perhaps, but the Democratic party has more leverage to bear than Republicans. They have Superdelegates that can sway the outcome in a divided convention. Every potential challenger is aware the Superdelegates that can loom large after a close primary run.
There's also the matter of subordinating the Iowa Caucuses and the New Hampshire primary to the South Carolina primary on the calendar. South Carolina is very favorable to Biden. Everyone realizes the importance of Congressmen Jim Clyburn endorsing Biden in the 2020 South Carolina primary. I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea, but the timing of the change is rather suspicious.
While one can overstate the importance of New Hampshire in determining the fate of candidates. New Hampshire has foreshadowed difficulties for incumbents and the favorites in various years. The Democratic party wants to avoid that.
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Exactly my point.
Primary challenges against incumbents are rare and almost always futile.
Even with some fading "establishment" backing, Walsh and Weld got nowhere.
But the point was that the press reported on them as serious and there were establishment people fishing around for "someone to come and primary Trump".
So yes, you heard about it then, just like you are hearing about people fishing around for "someone to come and primary Biden".
Right now it is the same level of seriousness and I don't expect it to even get to the level where someone actually comes in.
Only kooks like Williamson and Kennedy.
By definition, if you think Gavin Newsome can crush President Biden in the primaries you think his strength vis-à-vis Biden matters.
Which is what I said. It's a collective action problem.
But it also means risking making the move, losing, and destroying your future chances.
But these are all individual choices. Not party choices.
There is no "The Party will Remove Biden".
They have no mechanism.
Power factions in the party can try and move against him.
They have to weight the chances of success and the blowback if they fail.
But there is no "inner council of the DNC" or some other bullshit that can just order him to step down or otherwise force him out.
There are only other candidates and the groups that support them.
And the thing they have to do if they make this attempt is convince everyone else they were right to do so.
That's extremely hard because an internal party fight is damaging when you are the incumbent party.
So unless things get much, much worse for Biden, I don't see anyone wanting to be the one who makes that move.
It is clear that "Biden is too old" is going to be the "But her emails" of the cycle. The press needs something to fret about.
And yes, at that age, deterioration tends to be exponential - it can proceed very dramatically.
I still don't see the overall situation changing in a year. That's my bet.
But he could have a stroke tomorrow or get hit by a bus and then everything changes.
Hell, one of the endless corruption scandals they've been trying to gin up may catch fire or even turn out to be true.
That would change everything as well.
But "some people think he is too old and it worries us" isn't going to be enough reason for Newsom to try and get in, especially because he probably has a decent shot in 2028 and running now and missing is very likely to make him weaker in 2028. (He doesn't have a "movement" he is part of like Reagan did where running and failing is just part of the general fight for control of the party's agenda.)
The Republicans have Superdelegates as well, they just can't vote against what their state voted in the first round. Which is the rule for Democrats now as well since the reforms. (Although I think it is specifcally that the Superdelegates don't vote at all in the first round for the Democrats now.)
Of course, either party may have changed their rules about the automatic delegates in their new convention, I don't think either has published the 2024 rules yet.
But again, even if the Superdelegates worked the way they used to in the Democratic primary process, they can't force Joe not to run. All they can do is say "we all intend to support your opponent".
It isn't really suspicious at all. Iowa and New Hampshire were less and less representative of the Democratic base, so starting with them made less and less sense.
I absolutely agree that choosing South Carolina was Biden giving a nod to a state that had helped him. But since he is almost certainly not facing a primary challenge and since he can't run again after that, it isn't really a "rigging it to favor Biden" thing that much. (I would have preferred Michigan as the new first state. Really I would have preferred a forced rotation of first states that acted as a sampler but it was never likely to happen.)
The voting base in the primary for the GOP in Iowa and New Hampshire still resembles their overall base pretty well, so there isn't much reason to push the issue on the GOP side.
Tomorrow, November 2, 2023, at 10 a.m., I will be in court in Washington DC with White House
@PressSec
Karine Jean-Pierre for the first hearing of my First Amendment case against Joe Biden White House. Remember, it's not just through gag orders, people are being silenced through many means. That the mainstream media is not reporting it is irrelevant. If I win, the White House would be ordered to reactivate the press passes of more than 400 journalists and they would have no choice but to comply. Everyone would report it. As I have said, what makes the United States the greatest country in the world is the First Amendment. This case is not just about me. It's about a free country where journalists are not being personally targeted because of their questions. May God help me.
LOL! This dude doesn't understand how press conferences work, nor about the decorum expected by journalists in a briefing like this. He got kicked out because he kept disrupting shit. Any journalist who does this would likely face the same expulsion. Now, he might get his wish and be allowed back into the briefing room or pool...but that doesn't mean he will be called upon.
And....I hate to break it to him, because he seems to have no idea how the First Amendment works (as does Mitchy, apparently), but it allows you to say nearly whatever you want without government consequences. It also does not mean anyone needs to call on you at a press conference, nor kick you out if you refuse to follow rules...
Jimmy Cormer talks big on right-wing media sites, but when it comes to actually bringing forward evidence....not such a great track network. And his "proof" tends to be ethereal evaporates under scrutiny....
He got kicked out because Cringe Jean Pierre was racist. Cringe didn't want to see a fellow "black" person succeed. Simon made Cringe jealous!!
We'll see what happens. I don't think sleepy Joe could navigate his way around a jail cell.....LMAO
Wow. So many wrong answers in one short paragraph...lol. I also love how the right tries to categorize a POC as racist. Trump called James a racist, Mitchy here is calling the Jean Pierre racists...Apparently they don't understand that racism is....
Well apparently Cormer cannot nail down evidence or corroborating witnesses....
There is nothing to impeach Biden on. Having a scumbag for a son is not a crime.
They don't actually need a crime.
They can impeach him for whatever they want.
Since they know they don' t have the votes in the Senate, they are free to just impeach him on bullshit and pretend it is important.
