The Chinese built the CPR and the Italians and Portuguese built the Toronto subway.
Skilled Tradespeople
- Thread starter Rockslinger
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Again, why do you not enlighten us and explain how you put your capital at risk employing people?
My guess is it so much easier for you to complain about how others should do this
i am not the one complaining about how lazy people are because they don't want to work in my field and profession. everybody has job and career preferences get over it
As I figured, you do not put your capital at risk, yet , you have an ill-informed and agenda driven opinion about how others should
Whiners and complainers are a dime a dozen, That is the value of your opinion
You need to walk a mile in a business owners shoes long before you even dare think you can tell them how many they should hire, what they should pay an employee or how much effort they need to spend on training
Most people are lazy . They don't want to work hard . I used to work shifts. All holidays , weekends . Had to work very hard everyday but I made it . Maybe called in sick 3 times working 35 years . If I didn't go to work I didn't get paid . I have even seen people call in sick so they could stay at home and play their new video game that they got . Like WTF . After , their complaining they have no money .
Then you have the break even guy's . They work some overtime and are now ahead so what do they do , call in sick . Then you have the guy's that complain that they don't have the same holidays like you do but they have only been working for 3 or 4 years . Not 35 like me . What do they do ? Call in sick .
Lots of jobs to be had . Just get off your ass and go look . Start at the bottom and work your way up . Most people want to make the good money now . Sorry lazy bastards , doesn't work that way .
Foe example the guy who has a roofing busness . 2 guy's call in sick because they partied too much the night before . What's the business owner supposed to do now . Can't finish that job today and can't start his new job tomorrow because the lazy bastards called in sick . This type of shit happens all of the time .
I feel sorry for the guy's who run their own small business . Good dependable workers are hard to find . Even when you pay well and treat them well .
Then you have the break even guy's . They work some overtime and are now ahead so what do they do , call in sick . Then you have the guy's that complain that they don't have the same holidays like you do but they have only been working for 3 or 4 years . Not 35 like me . What do they do ? Call in sick .
Lots of jobs to be had . Just get off your ass and go look . Start at the bottom and work your way up . Most people want to make the good money now . Sorry lazy bastards , doesn't work that way .
Foe example the guy who has a roofing busness . 2 guy's call in sick because they partied too much the night before . What's the business owner supposed to do now . Can't finish that job today and can't start his new job tomorrow because the lazy bastards called in sick . This type of shit happens all of the time .
I feel sorry for the guy's who run their own small business . Good dependable workers are hard to find . Even when you pay well and treat them well .
My Portuguese neighbour is 70 years old and retired now. He said he and his wife came to Canada as young adults. He worked construction during the day and was a night watchman at a car dealership at night. His wife stayed home and raised their 3 sons. He now owns 3 houses and is probably worth $2 million. His sons will never know how hard their dad worked so they could have a comfy life in the suburbs.
Friend of mine worked for an insuance company from when he was a teenager. They wanted to hire him full time but company policy stated he needed a university degree for the position. It didn't matter what the degree was. So he took philosophy. He said he pretty much read the back cover of the text books and wrote what he felt like for all his papers. He passed, got his degree and had the job waiting for him.
University isn't just to teach you what you need to know. Its main job is to teach you how to continue to learn things.
As for the psycology degrees they have many business applications. Marketing as an example, human resources as another.
As always it aint so much what you know, its who you know.
University isn't just to teach you what you need to know. Its main job is to teach you how to continue to learn things.
As for the psycology degrees they have many business applications. Marketing as an example, human resources as another.
As always it aint so much what you know, its who you know.
It's amazing how everyone on here is a hard working person that accuses everyone else of being lazy and greedy. (yes that may be an over generalization) How can this be? I agree there are some lazy ass people out there, however I don't believe it is the norm. Our education system preaches to today's youth to get an education, the higher the education the better, and the parents/adults support this ideal. This generation that is coming into the workforce is the the highest educated and highest unemployed ever. Those on here that are accusing the youth of not wanting to work and get dirty, well if you spent 4 years in post secondary education, because the people you had faith in to guide you when you were young, believing if you got an education you can get a good job and have life made. Then you find out you can't get a job in your field and you have to go and work as a labourer at a construction site. Not very appetizing for the kids.
I am not a union person, I do though work with the trades on a construction site daily. The tradesman have never said that they can't get apprentices, their statements are that the union will not allow apprentices in and when they do, the contractors don't want apprentices they just want journeymen. I don't know what it is like in non-union shops, it could be they are starving for workers and that is what the gov't is talking about. However I do know that the union guys are leaving to go out west for work as Ontario, Toronto included is not hiring.
I am not a union person, I do though work with the trades on a construction site daily. The tradesman have never said that they can't get apprentices, their statements are that the union will not allow apprentices in and when they do, the contractors don't want apprentices they just want journeymen. I don't know what it is like in non-union shops, it could be they are starving for workers and that is what the gov't is talking about. However I do know that the union guys are leaving to go out west for work as Ontario, Toronto included is not hiring.
I think the problem starts in high school. Somehow "trades" are offered up as jobs for the guys in General Math & English. Meanwhile all the kids in advanced courses (the majority at most schools) are all told that they should seek out a University Degree to start their career. This obviously makes no sense as many trades aren't so simple and University Degrees have become a dime a dozen.
I have 2 friends that spent their 4 years in University only to finish and not be able to find a decent job. They SHOULD have gone back to school by now to learn a trade (or SOMETHING), but both of them insist that they're done with school. I admit, after finishing 4 years of University, it'd be hard to go back to school only to finish and become an apprentice and THEN (years down the line) MAYBE start making some real money. They both, however, concede that they should have gone into a trade from the beginning as they now see all the money that there is to be made there.
I have 2 friends that spent their 4 years in University only to finish and not be able to find a decent job. They SHOULD have gone back to school by now to learn a trade (or SOMETHING), but both of them insist that they're done with school. I admit, after finishing 4 years of University, it'd be hard to go back to school only to finish and become an apprentice and THEN (years down the line) MAYBE start making some real money. They both, however, concede that they should have gone into a trade from the beginning as they now see all the money that there is to be made there.
friend of mine just got laid off from his job. no union but he was making 35$ an hour. company told him they could hire 2 guys for what they are paying him, so he said why did you give me a raise to this point if you couldn't afford it. he had been working there for 8 years and was very loyal and was the hardest worker there.
another guy i know drives a street sweeper in toronto and makes 32$ an hour and works 12 hours a day 6 days a week.
i went with truck driving since i have endless options for work. more companies than drivers at this point and i will never be out of work unless i choose to be. i make good money and just got 5k back on my tax return.
another guy i know drives a street sweeper in toronto and makes 32$ an hour and works 12 hours a day 6 days a week.
i went with truck driving since i have endless options for work. more companies than drivers at this point and i will never be out of work unless i choose to be. i make good money and just got 5k back on my tax return.
Some of this is true. The unions are concerned about taking on too many apprentices because their hiring halls can only sustain so many unemployed workers. It's a delicate balance that is hard to predict accurately.
Employers always want journeymen and it's a constant struggle to balance the apprentices to journeymen ratios.
Alberta and the east coast are offering incentives and per diems that Ontario can't afford so many people are leaving the province.
what's wrong with getting both that degree and a trades certificate/diploma? Many people have more than one 'passion' in life.
+1! That! My Dad was a cabinet maker and taught me the value of work, and of an education. I had to work part-time as a bike mechanic while I was finishing my degree.
"Any one who earns a living by working at an honest job," he used to say to me. That is a lesson that I will never forget and that I want to teach to my own kids.
