Sick Days

You believe what you want to believe

blackrock13 said:
if what your saying is that our quality of life is a result of the presence of these labour association then you delusion are getting critical, but thanks for my morning smile.

Remember folks, unions brought you weekends.

All the evidence is in front of your nose. Do you believe in human history any boss has ever given their employees a raise or benefit improvement out of the goodness of their hearts. No they give them to 1) keep good people loyal 2) avoid discontent 3) avoid union drives 4) reach a union deal.

Anyway you look at it the mere presence of unions in the vacinity raises the standard of living in a community. Oakville? CAW Sept Isles Quebec USWA Ottawa? PSAC it goes on and on. You have just never been subjected to these arguments before because you have been living in a right wing bubble somewhere.

Bill Vander Zalm as Premier of BC took away the statutory right of all BC teachers to be in their union BCTF thinking that a large number of teachers really didn't want to be unionized. Three months later 98% had joined the new voluntary BCTF and he had done the union a great favour in that it totally reeducated the members on how vulnerable they would be without the union.

Stay in your bubble with Randy Hillier and Stephen Harper and Rush Limbaugh if you like but the world moves on without you.

First strike in recorded history, pyramid builders felt overworked in about 3000 BC. They will go on forever. They happen in Gdansk shipyards under totally totaliterian regimes. Get fucking used to it.
 
Mrbig1949 said:
All the evidence is in front of your nose. Do you believe in human history any boss has ever given their employees a raise or benefit improvement out of the goodness of their hearts. No they give them to 1) keep good people loyal 2) avoid discontent 3) avoid union drives 4) reach a union deal.

Anyway you look at it the mere presence of unions in the vacinity raises the standard of living in a community. Oakville? CAW Sept Isles Quebec USWA Ottawa? PSAC it goes on and on. You have just never been subjected to these arguments before because you have been living in a right wing bubble somewhere.

Bill Vander Zalm as Premier of BC took away the statutory right of all BC teachers to be in their union BCTF thinking that a large number of teachers really didn't want to be unionized. Three months later 98% had joined the new voluntary BCTF and he had done the union a great favour in that it totally reeducated the members on how vulnerable they would be without the union.

Stay in your bubble with Randy Hillier and Stephen Harper and Rush Limbaugh if you like but the world moves on without you.

First strike in recorded history, pyramid builders felt overworked in about 3000 BC. They will go on forever. They happen in Gdansk shipyards under totally totaliterian regimes. Get fucking used to it.

i've been the recipient of raises and bonuses for the the exact reason you deny exit.

The word I have on the Pyramid builders strike was that it was planned but didn't take off. Somehow I feel that when you say no to a living god, expect a one way hike to the inside of one of your own special pyramid, never to be seen again..

i've been called many things but never a conservative, so to put me in the same basket as Harper, Limbaugh, and Hillier( who ever he is)is a real laugher.

I accept the fact that with unions come strikes. That makes it common, but not smart. A smart fighter picks his fight and this fight is not smart. The public idea is so against your position and the constant brain farts on the picket line don't help. The change in message over the weekend from 3% and sick day entitlement to safety and staffing at the water treatment plats shows that the union is aware they're losing ground and are blowing smoke in the hope to confuse the situation. It ain't going to work.
 
Two Words are all that is require to rebut all your myths about unions

Bob Rea

Nice guy, meant well, but boy did he fuck things up.
The unions thought that once he was elected they would have an inside track to change things to their advantage.

The problem was old Bob was a surprised as anyone he got elected.
Once in power he quickly determined there was not enough money in the country let alone the provincial coffers to meet the union agenda (again its not their money so why the worry)
He had to back track & the unions turned on him like a $20 whore that had been short changed $10.

Bob saw the light after screwing things up here & now he is liberal red, rather than commie pink.

Unions built Canada??
Last I heard the chinese dug most of the railway.
We all know they were not unionized. You going to take credit for thier sweat?

Unions built Canada??
HA HA thats a good one, a real knee slapper
Any more?

Seriously you do a great dis-service to those that did build Canada (Cornellious Van Horn for example)
 
How many scabs are there?

blackrock13 said:
i've been the recipient of raise sand bonus for the the exact reason you deny.

The word I have on the Pyramid builders strike was that it was planned but didn't take off. Somehow I feel that when you say no to a living god, expect a one way hike to the inside of one of your own special pyramid, never to be seen again..

i've been called many things but never a conservative, so to put me in the same basket as Harper, Limbaugh, and Hillier( who ever he is)is a real laugher.

I accept the fact that with unions come strikes. That makes it common, but not smart. A smart fighter picks his fight and this fight is not smart. The public idea is so against your position and the constant brain farts on the picket line don't help. The change in message over the weekend from 3% and sick day entitlement to safety and staffing at the water treatment plats shows that the union is aware they're losing ground and are blowing smoke in the hope to confuse the situation. It ain't going to work.

I wonder how many City employees have crossed the picket lines?

I know an entire family that works for the City (mother, son, daughter, cousin living with them and they have all crossed the picket lines).

I was at a bbq on the weekend in which one of the family members mentioned that more than 70% of the staff have returned to work in her son's area though those numbers aren't nearly as close in the areas where other people in the family are working. She said that it looks like they're the wise ones in this battle as the rest of the fools on the picket lines are getting $200.00 a week for a strike that they will inevitably lose!!!!

She was also bragging how her sister in HR brought the entire family in (even extended family) and that the Union consists of a bunch of clowns that have no chance of moving up in the organization. Sounded quite harsh. I feel for the people in the Union because they stand to lose income in the thousands that they won't be able to make back anytime soon!
 
addicted2whiskey said:
I wonder how many City employees have crossed the picket lines?

I know an entire family that works for the City (mother, son, daughter, cousin living with them and they have all crossed the picket lines).
I feel for the people in the Union because they stand to lose income in the thousands that they won't be able to make back anytime soon!

Better not let MB find out who they are because he'll nail their names on a wall and do a roll call so that everyone will know who they are and make their lives a living hell and then claim he's big on making the workplace a better safer place for the worker.

What's wrong with this picture?
 
A scab is not a worker by definition

blackrock13 said:
Better not let MB find out who they are because he'll nail their names on a wall and do a roll call so that everyone will know who they are and make their lives a living hell and then claim he's big on making the workplace a better safer place for the worker.

What's wrong with this picture?

A scab is a sell out, a traitor, a scumbag, a fuckup, a shithead. Oh I would never advocate violence against a scab I would never speak to one. I would ask to be moved within the worksite so I didn't have to come in contact with one.

When God had finished making the worm, the snake and the toad, he had just enough slime left to create the lowest form of life on the planet-the scab. Jack London.
 
some union benefits to canada

Mrbig1949 said:
A scab is a sell out, a traitor, a scumbag, a fuckup, a shithead. Oh I would never advocate violence against a scab I would never speak to one. I would ask to be moved within the worksite so I didn't have to come in contact with one.

When God had finished making the worm, the snake and the toad, he had just enough slime left to create the lowest form of life on the planet-the scab. Jack London.


unions did bring you

health care
vacations
CPP
company pensions
maturnity leave
health & safety in the workplace
ect to list a few unions faught hard for these and continue to do so
 
buckwheat1 said:
unions did bring you

health care
vacations
CPP
company pensions
maturnity leave
health & safety in the workplace
ect to list a few unions faught hard for these and continue to do so

#1) no
#2) no
#3) can't say
#4) no
#5) no
#6) ok, you got me, that's one.
 
Mrbig1949 said:
A scab is a sell out, a traitor, a scumbag, a fuckup, a shithead. Oh I would never advocate violence against a scab I would never speak to one. I would ask to be moved within the worksite so I didn't have to come in contact with one.

When God had finished making the worm, the snake and the toad, he had just enough slime left to create the lowest form of life on the planet-the scab. Jack London.

Are you sure London wasn't referring to that collection of blood and fibrous material that covers and protects a cut but occasionally catches our attention and weakens our resolve to resist that most horrendous of actions; to picket, sorry typo, to pick it.

No you would never advocate violence against people but your willing to be the first to post their names on the wall and call out their names in the hall, chumming the water for the union wingnuts to thrive in. then you'd scream, 'not my fault'.
 
Mrbig1949 said:
A scab is a sell out, a traitor, a scumbag, a fuckup, a shithead. Oh I would never advocate violence against a scab I would never speak to one. I would ask to be moved within the worksite so I didn't have to come in contact with one.

When God had finished making the worm, the snake and the toad, he had just enough slime left to create the lowest form of life on the planet-the scab. Jack London.

Lets see here
1. If he is not a member, who is he selling out?
2. If he is not a member, who is he betraying?
3. All he wants to do is work & support his family. Thats a scumbag?
4. A fuck up or shithead. He at least is willing to work
5. He probably wants nothing to do with you either

I think the reason you do not like this worker is
1. because he does not buy into your extortion plans (you can call it a strike if it makes you feel better)
2. he does not respect the rules of the game your playing by
3. He is a constant reminder how easily a striking employee can be replaced

Be thankful for what you currently have , but do not fuck it up with pure greed which you mistake for principles