everyone needs them how many one gets is up to the employeer if non unionized, if unionized it's agreed to by Management and union on behalf of employees.
Sick Days
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buckwheat1 said:
BW;
Why the new thread when others in a similar vein need you attention and insight. Is this a case of divide and conquer, misdirection or an attempt to have BS try to overcome brains.
Cycleguy007
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nice newbie please you have almost as many posts as he does and you ave only been here a monthblackrock13 said:
buck i am one who has issues at my work place with sick days.
full timers get paid sick days, and i have a coworker who abuses this by using them as paid days off {not being sick}. i think companies should require the said person to bring in a doctors note in order for them to get paid for it, saving them money to pay a lazy ass employee.
I am getting rid of sick days in the new year. Some of my employees treat them like bonus days off and I am tired of it. I give 5 sick days/year that don't carry over. I am replacing them with 3 lieu days that they can take any time. It will cost me more but at least this way I won't feel like I am getting ripped off and I will know the days when we will be short staffed ahead of time.
luv4lust said:
So what's your point. It's just that there are a few threads here that push my buttons and I just have to react.
Someday you'll miss me when there's nothing of interest to me and I go away for a bit.
just do like the smart ones and bite your tongueblackrock13 said:
ya i'll be shedding tears till you come backblackrock13 said:
Cycleguy007
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buckwheat1 said:
You get 3 "in lieu days" on top of "sick days". Did I read somewhere that you get somewhere in the neighbourhood of 24 sick days or something??? https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2669247&postcount=131
Are we to assume all this is on top of regular vacation days and stat holidays and weekends... It`s a wonder you ever have found time to work?
i wish that was true this chick does it all the time while the rest of us work our asses offpapasmerf said:
look at a thread here does EI cover presciptions, looks like he's going to apply to EI for some sick time as well. I guess this proves a point that sick days are needed for those who get sick. If he's apply for EI sick days he'll have to wait the regular 2 week waiting peroid and get a reduced payment of around 55% (that sucks)
buckwheat1 said:
I disagree that everyone needs them. A sensible employer, a good employer, will have NO LIMIT on sick days, but will simply insist on evidence of actual sickness. The liability of an employee potentially getting sick for a very long time can be covered by purchasing appropriate insurance.
There is thus no need to have any actual number of sick days, any carry-over from year to year, or any payout on retirement.
To limit abuses and cut down on unnecessary paperwork you can have a policy of only demanding to see proof of sickness after three sick days have been taken in one calendar year, no matter whether it is consecutive days, or three one-off's. That means you won't have to ask for any paperwork for the majority of people who get a cold or flu and only take a day or two off sick each year.
This has been my Pet Peeve...
I have had family emergencies before..3 children in total and well as any of you with children know...shit does happen.I have requested it be an unpaid day with proof of the crisis(medical note from doctor etc).They refuse to do it citing a "sick day".I have 5 and once they are used they are gone.
I've always gotten the feeling the company "knows" they are going to be used and want to get them out of the way as quickly as possible(I've had to leave 3 hours early for a specialist appointment and been docked half day sick.).
My thoughts on this process now is"F&ck my company when it comes to sick days"...If i need it.I take it.I rack up about 10 a year now between personal and family illness and couldn't give 2 F#cks.I've spoken to counsel about it and with legitmate illnesses and proof any company would be nuts to terminate you for cause.
I've made it clear in a subtle tone that i'd sue them if they did.Yes, some people do abuse the system but many companies do look at their employees as little drones.End of rant.
I have had family emergencies before..3 children in total and well as any of you with children know...shit does happen.I have requested it be an unpaid day with proof of the crisis(medical note from doctor etc).They refuse to do it citing a "sick day".I have 5 and once they are used they are gone.
I've always gotten the feeling the company "knows" they are going to be used and want to get them out of the way as quickly as possible(I've had to leave 3 hours early for a specialist appointment and been docked half day sick.).
My thoughts on this process now is"F&ck my company when it comes to sick days"...If i need it.I take it.I rack up about 10 a year now between personal and family illness and couldn't give 2 F#cks.I've spoken to counsel about it and with legitmate illnesses and proof any company would be nuts to terminate you for cause.
I've made it clear in a subtle tone that i'd sue them if they did.Yes, some people do abuse the system but many companies do look at their employees as little drones.End of rant.
poonhunter said:Self employed here...sick days are unknown here
ditto, 20 years and not one sick day. Not bragging, just a fact, no work, no pay.
Scarey said:
Of course they do, for the majority of you once you've been "sick" for your 5 days you won't be taking any more, ergo it's much easier to schedule personnel.
Scarey said:
Then you need new counsel.... if your company employs over 50 people then you are allowed 10 "emergency" days w/o fear of reprisal... after that you can be terminated for your attendance "or lack thereof", tho' smart companies will do a progressive discipline at day 11 to ensure that there's absolutely no recourse for the bad employee. Obviously there is some grey area, as you mentioned if you have a bad illness there has to be some allowances.
If your company employs less than 50 people then that discipline process can start at day 1 if they really wanted to (silly I know), or in your case - on day 6
Scarey said:
Hope you're fairly essential... if I was your employer and you threatened to sue me I'd figure out how to get you out the door. Plenty of potential employees out there so there's no need wasting time on disloyal ones......
