Read what I provided, clean the blood spewing from your face, and then pivot to something else like usual. Can you do that?
Should I be terrified of climate change?
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Already done, skoob.
That's why you keep back pedalling from your initial claim that the increase in forest fires is because of arsonists.
It was an idiotic claim to start with and you're still idiotically defending it.
Which means you've been 'distracting' because you can't answer to the evidence and science.
I shared an article that states that arson and accidents cause forest fires. You didn't read it before you started spewing bullshit.
What part of that is back peddling?
Oh yes, this is where you try to invent an alternate reality to distract.
You shared a 4 year old article that claimed 13% of Australian wildfires are arson. But that article came from a right wing Australian source with links to fossil fuel funding. Its bullshit, like almost all that you post here. That article lists all fires that are 'deliberately' lit as arson.
Your sole source was that one article.
The 'arson emergency' trending amid Australia's bushfire crisis is actually not a thing
An evidence-free troll campaign blames arsonists for the worst fire season in modern Australian history, not climate change. It's BS.
So your source is a left-wing outlet and that's ok?
btw Your article basically says the same thing...arson or accidents...they just word it differently.
Set by people is the key takeaway here.
Can't you wrap your head around that fact? Too confusing? Doesn't jive with your narrative I guess.
Another FF fail!
You failed skoob. You tried to defend a larue claim that was based on faked charts with a bullshit article.
The increase in forest fires is from climate change, not arson.
You lost that argument and that was only an attempt at not answering to this chart.
here is frankfooter back peddling
30 minutes after he posted this
clearly implying / acknowledging environmental activists have started
he went absolutely ballistic when he saw this
which is backed up by this
File:Total Wildland Acres Burned Annually (1926-2019) in the United States.png - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
there is a date stamp indicating the data was downloaded as publicly available data on October 24, 2020 , before pre 1983 was disappeared.
but according to Frankfooter the public is not permitted to view publicly available data (do you smell authoritarianism with hints of communism ?)
he did not stop to consider he may have been previously misled about forest fire burn acreage trends?
he did not stop to consider how fire management technology has improved since 1920s (airplanes/ water bombers / dedicated forest fighting crews) as well as more roads into the wilderness and improved communications obviously supporting a decline in acreage burnt since the 1920s ?
no he pissed his pants because a key climate change propaganda piece had just gone up in flames
called me a lair several times (he was Trudeauing)
his bullshit argument is the data prior to 1983 is not ''sanctioned" by the NFIC the same organization that disappeared the data prior to 1983.
Science does not require an organization to "sanction" data
its not like forest fires did not exist prior to 1983 , but Frankfooter does not want anyone to see how much acreage was reported as burnt
he wants to keep that previously available public information hidden so as not to cast doubts on a key "Climate Change" narrative
It makes one wonder if / how other historical data is being manipulated
we do know climate science conveniently ignores data issues in surface temp records , Urban Island heat effect , incomplete world wide data, adjustments , data holes etc
And then there is Michael Mann's broken hockey stick & 'Hide the decline" emails (more hiding of data from the public tisk tisk)
tony Heller claims
NASA is also dicking with the data
Tony Heller (@TonyClimate) / X (twitter.com)
quite a difference
cooling the past to inflate the present ???
Both of my grandpas told me how bloody hot the 1930s were
is that evidence? no its food for thought though
tony has been keeping publicly available data for quite some time & one could have taken screen shots back in 1999
is Tony Haller to be trusted ?
vs Frankfooter ?
I will let you be the judge of that based on your experience with Frankfooter
What is a fella expected to believe after Frankfooter tried to cover up a lie by bureaucracy ?
Frankfooter is not at all credible, however he is predictable
Ok lets watch Frankfooter blow a fuse and default to character assassination on Tony Haller (he will call me a liar as well)
get some popcorn
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If you think that forest fires are just deliberately started then of course you buy all the conspiracy theories!!
So you equate those concerned as Climate change activists as "arsonists"? Really, in Europe, Africa, S. America and Asia, several nations have been impacted by the forest fires.
Some could have been started stupidly by those tossing their used cigarette butt in the forest on a very intensely hot and sunny days. Other fires could be started by some raucous kids who consider it a joke until they realize that it was getting out of hand. But most fires are caused by the effects of Climate Change....... Period!!
However, the flooding at the Don Valley Parkway pales in comparison to other nations where home losses and deaths have occurred. For once go with the real scientific facts instead of those conspiracy theorists that work out of Mama's basements!!
Europe experiences widespread flooding and severe heatwaves in 2023
Frankfooter is the ultimate product of leftist indoctrination and is in serious need of de-programming.here is frankfooter back peddling
30 minutes after he posted this
clearly implying / acknowledging environmental activists have startedall theforest fires
he went absolutely ballistic when he saw this
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which is backed up by this
File:Total Wildland Acres Burned Annually (1926-2019) in the United States.png - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
there is a date stamp indicating the data was downloaded as publicly available data on October 24, 2020 , before pre 1983 was disappeared.
but according to Frankfooter the public is not permitted to view publicly available data (do you smell authoritarianism with hints of communism ?)
he did not stop to consider he may have been previously misled about forest fire burn acreage trends?
he did not stop to consider how fire management technology has improved since 1920s (airplanes/ water bombers / dedicated forest fighting crews) as well as more roads into the wilderness and improved communications obviously supporting a decline in acreage burnt since the 1920s ?
no he pissed his pants because a key climate change propaganda piece had just gone up in flames
called me a lair several times (he was Trudeauing)
his bullshit argument is the data prior to 1983 is not ''sanctioned" by the NFIC the same organization that disappeared the data prior to 1983.
Science does not require an organization to "sanction" data
its not like forest fires did not exist prior to 1983 , but Frankfooter does not want anyone to see how much acreage was reported as burnt
he wants to keep that previously available public information hidden so as not to cast doubts on a key "Climate Change" narrative
It makes one wonder if / how other historical data is being manipulated
we do know climate science conveniently ignores data issues in surface temp records , Urban Island heat effect , incomplete world wide data, adjustments , data holes etc
And then there is Michael Mann's broken hockey stick & 'Hide the decline" emails (more hiding of data from the public tisk tisk)
tony Heller claims
NASA is also dicking with the data
Tony Heller (@TonyClimate) / X (twitter.com)
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quite a difference
cooling the past to inflate the present ???
Both of my grandpas told me how bloody hot the 1930s were
is that evidence? no its food for thought though
tony has been keeping publicly available data for quite some time & one could have taken screen shots back in 1999
is Tony Haller to be trusted ?
vs Frankfooter ?
I will let you be the judge of that based on your experience with Frankfooter
What is a fella expected to believe after Frankfooter tried to cover up a lie by bureaucracy ?
Frankfooter is not at all credible, however he is predictable
Ok lets watch Frankfooter blow a fuse and default to character assassination on Tony Haller (he will call me a liar as well)
get some popcorn
"Most fires are caused by climate change" ? Really?
The National Park Service would disagree with you.
Nearly 85 percent* of wildland fires in the United States are caused by humans. Human-caused fires result from campfires left unattended, the burning of debris, equipment use and malfunctions, negligently discarded cigarettes, and intentional acts of arson.
https://www.nps.gov/articles/wildfire-causes-and-evaluation.htm
Ecologists would also disagree with you.
Nationwide, humans are responsible for starting 84% of wildfires, according to a paper co-authored by Balch, published this past March in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
https://www.science.org/content/article/who-starting-all-those-wildfires-we-are
The UN would also disagree with you.
Various scientific studies suggest that 70-90% of fire are started by people
https://www.un.org/development/desa...-growing-concern-for-sustainable-development/
And most importantly, I disagree with you.
ps you're being played.
You claimed that forest fires are deliberately started by those who believe in Climate Change. No proof of that in any of those links.
But the major destruction caused by forest fires in are due to:
How did the Canadian wildfires start? A look at what caused the fires that are sending smoke across the U.S.
Canada is on track to have its most destructive wildfire season in history.
www.cbsnews.com
Yes, the destruction of 85% of the forests are by lightning, especially when impacted by Climate Change!!
It is not surprising that cigarette butts, raucous teenagers cause the fires, but in most of those cases under normal temperatures they can be contained rather than get out of hand.
However, the scale of the lightnings due to the Climate change causes the most damage.
These are the facts. just like I proved to you that flooding and forest fires intensity of destruction is caused by Climate Change....... something that you keep on being in denial!!
larue, I called out skoob for first claiming that the increase in forest fires was from arsonists. That claim fell apart.
He then implied he thought environmentalists were starting fires. I called him out on that, I did not admit anything.
You are lying about what I said, once again being intentionally dishonest.
This chart does not appear on the NIFC site and this data is not supported by the NIFC.
You are intentionally posting known bullshit charts.
That's really low, larue.
Your link also says that using that chart is misleading as the NIFC thinks that old data is faulty.File:Total Wildland Acres Burned Annually (1926-2019) in the United States.png - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
there is a date stamp indicating the data was downloaded as publicly available data on October 24, 2020 , before pre 1983 was disappeared.
but according to Frankfooter the public is not permitted to view publicly available data (do you smell authoritarianism with hints of communism ?)
he did not stop to consider he may have been previously misled about forest fire burn acreage trends?
he did not stop to consider how fire management technology has improved since 1920s (airplanes/ water bombers / dedicated forest fighting crews) as well as more roads into the wilderness and improved communications obviously supporting a decline in acreage burnt since the 1920s ?
no he pissed his pants because a key climate change propaganda piece had just gone up in flames
called me a lair several times (he was Trudeauing)
his bullshit argument is the data prior to 1983 is not ''sanctioned" by the NFIC the same organization that disappeared the data prior to 1983.
Science does not require an organization to "sanction" data
its not like forest fires did not exist prior to 1983 , but Frankfooter does not want anyone to see how much acreage was reported as burnt
he wants to keep that previously available public information hidden so as not to cast doubts on a key "Climate Change" narrative
It makes one wonder if / how other historical data is being manipulated
we do know climate science conveniently ignores data issues in surface temp records , Urban Island heat effect , incomplete world wide data, adjustments , data holes etc
And then there is Michael Mann's broken hockey stick & 'Hide the decline" emails (more hiding of data from the public tisk tisk)
tony Heller claims
NASA is also dicking with the data
Tony Heller (@TonyClimate) / X (twitter.com)
BEWARE: The National Interagency Fire Center (NIFC) cautionS against comparing their pre-1983 data to their post-1983 data (see statement below). Therefore this chart may be misleading even though the NIFC includes all of this yearly data in one table.
Now you're posting a 25 year old chart about US temps and implying that they are current and global temps.
That's really stupid, no wonder you can't understand the NASA kids page on the greenhouse effect.
Only a moron would try such an incredibly weak bait and switch.
What's wrong with you?
Says the guy who defends rump and DoFo and then says he's against corruption.
Says the guy who defends genocide and says he's not racist.
Says the guy who can't even read a chart correctly or define 'fair share'.
So, you think that only Liberals spew crap. The above nonsense of an argument proves that you are on the right wing spectrum. That is what I stated all along. ROTFLMAO!!
Now you expect me to believe that you could under some vague circumstances ditch Pee Pee. Maybe in the next Universe!!
I have to say the combined failure of skoob and larue are pretty typical.
They both work together to try to make one claim but both provided bullshit evidence that they can't even understand why its faulty.
The total inability to tell legit sources from bullshit is a defining characteristic of the anti science climate change denier.
They're both so far stuck up the conspiracy theory asshole that they keep mistaking shit for gold.
So the IPCC, NASA, AAAS and every single scientific organization they now claim are in some conspiracy.
A conspiracy that's managed to get scientists in over 100 countries, through 4 decades and multiple governments all to work together on some strange conspiracy.
How do ever reach people like that?
They both work together to try to make one claim but both provided bullshit evidence that they can't even understand why its faulty.
The total inability to tell legit sources from bullshit is a defining characteristic of the anti science climate change denier.
They're both so far stuck up the conspiracy theory asshole that they keep mistaking shit for gold.
So the IPCC, NASA, AAAS and every single scientific organization they now claim are in some conspiracy.
A conspiracy that's managed to get scientists in over 100 countries, through 4 decades and multiple governments all to work together on some strange conspiracy.
How do ever reach people like that?
there is a date stamp indicating the data was downloaded as publicly available data on October 24, 2020 , before pre 1983 was disappeared.
but according to Frankfooter the public is not permitted to view publicly available data (do you smell authoritarianism with hints of communism ?)
it does not say the data is faulty
it says this chart may be misleading even though the NIFC includes all of this yearly data in one table (as of October 24, 2020 )
it says nothing about faulty data . they changed their reporting procedures. that requires an asterisk and a footnote, not a disappearance
???
I said nothing about tony Haller's graphics representing current and global temps.
i did mention the messed up surface temp record, but that was a separate problem and a separate part of the post
so it was propaganda directed towards kids that brain washed you, ...... I see... yikes !
the actual physics of our non-linear, coupled , chaotic and dynamic climate system is a lot more more complicated than shown in your favourite cartoon
dropping out of high school was not a good plan, educating yourself via cartoons is not a good plan either
do you mean like the moron who intentionally disappeared 70 odd years of forest fire data ?
now you see it, now you don't ?
Explain this:
the 1999 us temp anomaly is lower than the 1932 anomaly as reported in 1999
however two decades later in 2019, the 1999 us temp anomaly is higher than the 1932 anomaly.
artificially cool the past to artificially warm the present
the physical laws of nature do not change historical temperatures
humans can change data
did Tony Haller change the NASA data?
or was it a climate activist .......masquerading as a scientist
it would not be the first time they have diddled the data
Michael Manns broken Hockey Stick
extreme weather events >>> "low confidence'
"Hide the decline"
NIFC
seriously if the alarmists are willing to glue their faces to pavement ,what's a little data tampering amongst lunatic friends?
i guess nobody told them such vibrant dyestuff colours are only available from oil based chemicals
straight jackets used in asylums come in more 'earth friendly ' white
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facts you say?
lets dive deeper
What the IPCC Actually Says About Extreme Weather
I promise, you'll be utterly shocked
rogerpielkejr.substack.com
can I assume you understand what low confidence means?
low confidence really confused FrankFooter
onto your confusion about Forest fires
File:Total Wildland Acres Burned Annually (1926-2019) in the United States.png - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
there is a date stamp indicating the data was downloaded as publicly available data on October 24, 2020
Forest Fires | National Forestry Database
National Forestry Database (NFD) of Canada is to collect and compile national forest data and forest management statistics: Forestry Highlights, Wood supply, Forest fires, Forest insects, Harvest, Regeneration, Revenues, Pest control, and Provincial and Territorial Profiles.
These are the facts. and whatever you think you proved is not supported by the facts
Why are you making stuff up that you think I said?...are you reading my posts?You claimed that forest fires are deliberately started by those who believe in Climate Change. No proof of that in any of those links.
But the major destruction caused by forest fires in are due to:
.How did the Canadian wildfires start? A look at what caused the fires that are sending smoke across the U.S.
Canada is on track to have its most destructive wildfire season in history.
Yes, the destruction of 85% of the forests are by lightning, especially when impacted by Climate Change!!
It is not surprising that cigarette butts, raucous teenagers cause the fires, but in most of those cases under normal temperatures they can be contained rather than get out of hand.
However, the scale of the lightnings due to the Climate change causes the most damage.
These are the facts. just like I proved to you that flooding and forest fires intensity of destruction is caused by Climate Change....... something that you keep on being in denial!!
Newsflash: I never claimed that forest fires are deliberately started by those who believe in climate change.
I claimed that most are caused by people whether deliberate or by accident. Period.
Ah yes, the "Frankfooter make shit up to blur reality response" right on queue.
Funny...I asked you to define fair share and you couldn't...now you spin it to say that I can't?!? haha Just because you type something doesn't mean it's true. But then again, you are usually full of shit and no one takes you seriously anyway.
btw Are you still supporting terrorists? Just checking.
