Shooting at Eaton Centre
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Tis is only your opinion. You only backed it up with a BlLOG posted by a dude who believes in Bigfoot. Do you have two TERB handles?Who cares? Maybe history professors? The rest of us care about there here and now.
Those who acknowledge the fact that it is relevant because it is.
My view is people should fix their own problems. Since blacks have a problem with their culture, they should fix it. If the rest of us have to fix it for them, it isn't going to be nearly as nice a solution. The rest of us might find that the most effective approach is racial profiling. Blacks would probably be best served by solving this one themselves. Unfortunately the black community, at least its public voice, appears dead set on blaming all its problems on others and looking to others for solutions. It's such a prevalent line that every black child has a sure fire excuse for failing at life--they can point to all the black community rhetoric, and say, "it's OK I failed, I'm black". Truly a multi-generation epic fail of a culture.
One step forward. Two steps back.
It's a failed culture, there is no other way to describe a violence loving culture that produces almost all the violence. Failed is the right word. Fathers who don't raise their children, kids who convince each other to drop out of school, role models who espouse dressing like hoodlums and sing about committing crime and violence. It's a complete and total epic fail of a culture.
An obvious difference is that Jews, Irish, Italians, Russians, Ukrainians, and Portuguese are or can pass for White. Their physical traits "blend in" with the majority so to speak.
Chinese.....Thank you for pointing out a point I have been trying to make.
East Indians......
Middle Easterners....
Oh & Blacks who have the sense NOT to emulate black "culture"
This is a GLARING omission of facts that aren't convenient to your point of view & thanking someone else for making the same grievous error in observation does NOT validate your point. In fact this desperate grasping at straws reveals exactly the opposite.
Toke already made the distinction between immigrants and slave labor descendants - ie. Blacks, Native Indians, and South Americans.Chinese.....
East Indians......
Middle Easterners....
Oh & Blacks who have the sense NOT to emulate black "culture"
This is a GLARING omission of facts that aren't convenient to your point of view & thanking someone else for making the same grievous error in observation does NOT validate your point. In fact this desperate grasping at straws reveals exactly the opposite.
Even given the 'blend in' factor, it hasn't stopped Portuguese from gangland style shootings in 2012 (recall Little Italy shooting a week ago?). Asians - yes Chinese included - are huge in the drug game and other underground economies. These are not omissions of facts; they are the facts.
Actually if you go not too far back "slave abour decentdants" describes every people in the history of ever. Most peoples have gotten the fuck over it & themselves so try again.Toke already made the distinction between immigrants and slave labor descendants - ie. Blacks, Native Indians, and South Americans.
Oooooh ONE compared to how many "black culture" subscribers?Even given the 'blend in' factor, it hasn't stopped Portuguese from gangland style shootings in 2012 (recall Little Italy shooting a week ago?).
No one said other groups are incapable of violence... The entire point is the disproportionate prevelence of it being discussed. Again you're basically saying that timmy steals cookies once in a while so there's NOTHING unsual about Jimmy stealing cookies every chance he gets... Oh & if we dare mention Jimmy stealing we're also racist.Asians - yes Chinese included - are huge in the drug game and other underground economies.
Yes They are. But even if it makes you feel better to delude youerself, denying that it's twisting them at least is beyond idiocy.These are not omissions of facts;
Huh?they are the facts.
Although there is no longer a government "head tax", many people still pay thousands of dollars to come to Canada. Tamils pay money to get on a leaky boat to cross thousands of miles of open ocean to come to Canada. EE's also seek passage to Canada. Canada is indeed "Gold Mountain".
BTW: My roofer is Black and he has an all Black crew. They work like devils in the warm weather here in Canada and they Winter back in Jamaica. They use to charge below market rates but good word about their work spread around and now they are so busy they charge market rates.
BTW: My roofer is Black and he has an all Black crew. They work like devils in the warm weather here in Canada and they Winter back in Jamaica. They use to charge below market rates but good word about their work spread around and now they are so busy they charge market rates.
By perpetuating a culture which promotes violence. Legally responsible? No. Morally? Yes. Part of the problem? Absolutely
This ^^Law abiding citizens are not responsible for the actions of others. And there are those who are invovled in community outreach groups so it is not like they aren't trying
By the same token fuji, we should hold all Italians responsible for the the mafia culture. In fact, we should hold Hollywood responsible for pumping out all those Godfather movies.
While we're at it, lets hold all white folks responsible for biker gangs too
Absolutely, and Black gangstra movies as well. When will Lindsay Lohan do a full frontal nude scene (I heard in her next movie)?we should hold Hollywood responsible for pumping out all those Godfather movies.
Yes we should do that, but since those groups are not the source of all the violent crime, the focus should remain on the actual problem, which is a black problem.Phil C. McNasty said:By the same token fuji, we should hold all Italians responsible for the the mafia culture. In fact, we should hold Hollywood responsible for pumping out all those Godfather movies.
While we're at it, lets hold all white folks responsible for biker gangs.
You can throw up all the sand you like but you cannot escape the fact that blacks cause most of the violent crime, not Italians, not whites.
If that's what Fuji is saying then yes he's wrong.This ^^
By the same token fuji, we should hold all Italians responsible for the the mafia culture. In fact, we should hold Hollywood responsible for pumping out all those Godfather movies.
While we're at it, lets hold all white folks responsible for biker gangs too
However, once again it appears as though you guys are missing the point or deliberately introducing absurd straw man arguments to bolster an opinion weak on facts & logic.
YES we should hold all Italians responsible for the the mafia culture IF the Italian community supported that subculture through actively crying racism & apologizing for the Mafiosos. But THEY DON'T. In fact some of the Most vocal enemies of the Mafia culture are Italian.
YES lets hold all white folks responsible for biker gangs too... IF the White community supported that subculture through actively crying racism & apologizing for the Bikers. But THEY DON'T In fact some of the Most vocal enemies of the Biker culture are White..
As a matter of fact the very notion of a white community is all but outlawed as "racist"
Your logic is flawed even if we chose to buy into your cherrypicked & misleading "facts" you use to support your premise.
The "Black community" stands ALONE in sheilding their criminal element through blaming everyone but the individuals responsible for the savagery & the culture that bred them.
It also must be pointed out that the criminal elements of other cultures are VERY different. In general, their crimes are less reckless, wanton & retarded. Bikers rarely kill anyone but bikers & associated criminals & the same goes for triads & mafia. Senseless, undisciplined, irresponsible MAYHEM is what distinguishes the criminal element of the "black community" & THAT is why people fear & HATE them. It's not the colour of their skin. It IS the content... actually the LACK of their "character"
Yeah some more recent than others. It's important to understand that. Try again.Actually if you go not too far back "slave abour decentdants" describes every people in the history of ever. Most peoples have gotten the fuck over it & themselves so try again.
You think the murder in Little Italy is an example of black culture? lol. I happen to think its was a page out of the Mafia handbook.Oooooh ONE compared to how many "black culture" subscribers?
I didn't even mention violence when referring to Asians. I was referring to drug related crime - you know, the selling and buying, manufacturing and the importing and exporting of drugs. I don't know what the numbers are but I can assure you that groups other than Blacks have greater influence and marketshare over these activities.No one said other groups are incapable of violence... The entire point is the disproportionate prevelence of it being discussed. Again you're basically saying that timmy steals cookies once in a while so there's NOTHING unsual about Jimmy stealing cookies every chance he gets... Oh & if we dare mention Jimmy stealing we're also racist.
Go back to school. You have too much ego, not enough cognition.Yes They are. But even if it makes you feel better to delude youerself, denying that it's twisting them at least is beyond idiocy.
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How.the mexi is back from his 6 months, sabbatical...a pity...his posting history, clearly indicates that he is a stupid, angry, vile racist piece of crap...and Fugi aint far behind..
I think mexi and fuji hate black people, so they use the disparate Black crime rate as a way of justifying their hatred
Good point. Asians get a pass as pirated dvds, gambling, prostitution seem light compared to gang shootings. I didn't put drugs on that list as people would probably put that on more even footing with shootings.Toke already made the distinction between immigrants and slave labor descendants - ie. Blacks, Native Indians, and South Americans.
Even given the 'blend in' factor, it hasn't stopped Portuguese from gangland style shootings in 2012 (recall Little Italy shooting a week ago?). Asians - yes Chinese included - are huge in the drug game and other underground economies. These are not omissions of facts; they are the facts.
This is not to say that black shootings should get a pass just simply pointing out that while it is easy to spot the burning tree there is a forest around it.
You and the other anti blacks keep talking about how the black community supports them but way back in the thread I posted links to quotes from leaders of Jamaican groups and what not htat denounced the violence. Also, I provided links to a number of community based organizations trying to reach youths.If that's what Fuji is saying then yes he's wrong.
However, once again it appears as though you guys are missing the point or deliberately introducing absurd straw man arguments to bolster an opinion weak on facts & logic.
YES we should hold all Italians responsible for the the mafia culture IF the Italian community supported that subculture through actively crying racism & apologizing for the Mafiosos. But THEY DON'T. In fact some of the Most vocal enemies of the Mafia culture are Italian.
YES lets hold all white folks responsible for biker gangs too... IF the White community supported that subculture through actively crying racism & apologizing for the Bikers. But THEY DON'T In fact some of the Most vocal enemies of the Biker culture are White..
As a matter of fact the very notion of a white community is all but outlawed as "racist"
Your logic is flawed even if we chose to buy into your cherrypicked & misleading "facts" you use to support your premise.
The "Black community" stands ALONE in sheilding their criminal element through blaming everyone but the individuals responsible for the savagery & the culture that bred them.
It also must be pointed out that the criminal elements of other cultures are VERY different. In general, their crimes are less reckless, wanton & retarded. Bikers rarely kill anyone but bikers & associated criminals & the same goes for triads & mafia. Senseless, undisciplined, irresponsible MAYHEM is what distinguishes the criminal element of the "black community" & THAT is why people fear & HATE them. It's not the colour of their skin. It IS the content... actually the LACK of their "character"
So I am confused when people say the black community supports/condones the gangs.
Furthermore, for those who go the sociology route and talk about being disadvantaged and what not..... those are not excuses for gang activity rather an explanaiton. Two very different things.
Also, you need some stats to prove that innocents are safer from biker or mafia crime.
Please understand that this is not about me supporting blacks or gangs it's about taking offense to statements that are not founded in fact.
Where we do agree is that in Toronto there are a lot of black shootings.
Let's not play that game.Please explain how VERY clearly discerning between race & culture, then specifically attacking the culture is racist?
Go on.. take your time to think about it.
You say you don't have a problem with blacks (race) just the culture. But you've made broad sweeping generalizations such as
1) assuming that giving a "black" name has an impact on how the person will conduct themselves at work (obama seems to get by just fine)
2) assuming that it is part of black culture to play the race card at work
So whether you want to call it race or culture that you are attacking the point I am making is that you are making broad sweeping generalizations about a specific culture.
Sure if the guy speaks like Lil Wayne and you want a sales rep for bibles he's probably not your man. But if his only "red flag" is having a name like Tyrell I think you are racist/ or whatever the term for someone who is biased against a culture.
Nobody was suggesting that the hiring bias based on the resume experiment was an excuse for violent crime. Simply trying to get people to understand that even though it is 2012 racism and biases still exists and that simply working harder is only part of the route for blacks towards success and along that path are obstacles and barriers.Ok, since it's not an excuse for crime, it's drop it. It's obviously irrelevant to the present topic. Blacks cannot use this sort of thing as an excuse for their outrageous violence.
Again not looking for excuses just hoping people can empathize that things are not as easy as "just work hard and get a good job."
I think the camera caught a murder. Within the first 10 seconds, see gun man fire at two victims.
The victim in front of camera, but blocked by counter, appears to be the one that is killed, the gun man fires point blank while standing over him.
The victim in front of camera, but blocked by counter, appears to be the one that is killed, the gun man fires point blank while standing over him.
