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Shawn Thornton atacks Brooks Orpik

gcostanza

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Orpik's hit was clean, Eriksson had his head down, Thornton slew footed him to the ice because he knew he couldn't take him mano a mano.

Thornton gets 10 games, Neal gets 7. Case Closed.
Neal gets 5 or fewer, his hearing is phone, maximum suspension for phone hearing is 5.
I think he should be looking at 3, will get 1 or 2.

Thornton should be looking at 20-25, but Shanaban will probably give him about 12.
 

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von, your joking right? thornton couldn,t take him 'mano a mano'? he pussied out after shawn challenged him 'mano a mano', after the cheap shot on Eriksson. please.. I thought you had more sense than that. its a shame that other coward neal, ran to the bench after kneeing marchand . I,m not condoning what shawn did was right, but if orpick takes him on, none of this garbage happens. those 2 refs should have gotten a slap upside the head. how do you miss marchand getting hit, when the play is right in front of you? and the bruins lose Kelly to a broken foot from a slash. I know I,m biased here, but lets call a spade a spade.
 

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von, your joking right? thornton couldn,t take him 'mano a mano'? he pussied out after shawn challenged him 'mano a mano', after the cheap shot on Eriksson. please.. I thought you had more sense than that. its a shame that other coward neal, ran to the bench after kneeing marchand . I,m not condoning what shawn did was right, but if orpick takes him on, none of this garbage happens. those 2 refs should have gotten a slap upside the head. how do you miss marchand getting hit, when the play is right in front of you? and the bruins lose Kelly to a broken foot from a slash. I know I,m biased here, but lets call a spade a spade.
Why should Orpik fight Thornton just because Thornton wants to fight? Players have to defend themselves after making clean hits now?

The officials didn't miss the Neal knee, he was called for a 2 minute penalty on the play.

Lets call a spade a spade, you're looking at this situation through yellow & black coloured glasses.
 

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As I previously stated I'm no fan of the Bruins, I will continue to take the opposite side of this discussion by saying I hope Thornton appeals whatever suspension he gets.
So attacking someone from behind, slew-footing them and sucker punching them while prone on the ice is okay in your world?
 

saxon

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So attacking someone from behind, slew-footing them and sucker punching them while prone on the ice is okay in your world?
Thornton went over the line, but if you were him you probably are pissed that 4 of your teamates have been hurt in 48 hrs. by cheap shots, Boychuk in Montreal, Eriksson and Marchant last night to go along with Kelly getting his foot busted by a slash. Yes he went to far but I guarantee you all his teamates are glad he stood up for them.
 

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Thornton went over the line, but if you were him you probably are pissed that 4 of your teamates have been hurt in 48 hrs. by cheap shots, Boychuk in Montreal, Eriksson and Marchant last night to go along with Kelly getting his foot busted by a slash. Yes he went to far but I guarantee you all his teamates are glad he stood up for them.
You stated he "should appeal(s) whatever suspension he gets."

Whatever happened to his teammates is a separate issue. Thornton HAS to show some self-discipline and abide by "the code" that he claims to subscribe to. Attacking from behind, slew-footing and sucker-punching a defenceless guy on the ice is an abomination - And hypocritical to the so-called "code."

We were always taught to hit everything that moves and has/just had the puck - doubly so if one of ours was hit like Eriksson was. Not attack like a coward from behind.
 

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As I previously stated I'm no fan of the Bruins, I will continue to take the opposite side of this discussion by saying I hope Thornton appeals whatever suspension he gets.
Appeal what ?
That he attacked someone from behind and punched while he was laying on the ice ?

What's his exscuse ?
 

saxon

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Yea
And his explanation would eb what ?
If he decides to appeal whatever suspension he gets I'm sure his agents and lawyers will come up with an argument to suggest a lesser suspension. It worked last year for Raffi Torres.
 

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should be criminal charges just like bertuzzi was charged. this is way worst than the bertuzzi incident.
 

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You can't even hit a Bruin with a clean check without all the goons coming ater ya
That's a pet peeve of mine, and it's not just the ever loathsome Bruins. It's across the league. Maybe it has become part of the CODE. Retaliation for a clean hit means his teammates figure he's not man enough to take care of himself and fight his own battles. It is street gang mentality but it also demeans the guy they are supposedly standing up for. He's not tough enough to be in the league without his buddies help.

I'd like to see a 5 minute instigator for that instead of 2, or a double minor. It starts so many unnecessary scrums, fights and delays etc. and all because the game was being played the way it is meant to be. You rarely see it in NFL where there are way more heavy, jarring hits. Those games would never end. But they are high speed warriors like hockey yet they have self control. They are more professional.

Even an illegal hit should be dealt by the refs. If a dirty play does not get called, then frontier justice can come into play (at risk of suspension). If the team is not going to get punished/hurt via penalty, then the player can pay a physical price.
 

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If he decides to appeal whatever suspension he gets I'm sure his agents and lawyers will come up with an argument to suggest a lesser suspension. It worked last year for Raffi Torres.
You are suggesting that he does not deserve to get suspended. Saying "whatever" means that, in the near impossible event that he gets only 1 game, he should appeal it. You generally appeal if you believe the punishment is to hash and that you can win an appeal. Do you honestly think that any type of suspension in this case is too hash and winnable?
 

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should be criminal charges just like bertuzzi was charged. this is way worst than the bertuzzi incident.

Yeah, there should be. It was not a fight, it was after the whistle and way after the play was over. This was an assault plain and simple...
 

saxon

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You are suggesting that he does not deserve to get suspended. Saying "whatever" means that, in the near impossible event that he gets only 1 game, he should appeal it. You generally appeal if you believe the punishment is to hash and that you can win an appeal. Do you honestly think that any type of suspension in this case is too hash and winnable?
He will get a harsh suspension and he deserves one. However if he gets say 20 games and his lawyers and agents think they could get it knocked down to 15 or 16 then they may try an appeal. Bettman would hear the first appeal and probably turn it down, at that point I believe the player has the right under the CBA to take his appeal to an independant arbitrator who would hear his argument for a lesser suspension. Why not take the chance with an arbritrator? You never know they may be able to get a few games knocked off the suspension. Then again Thornton may just choose to sit it out and be ready for the rest of the season. By the way Neal has received a 5 game suspension.
 

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That's a pet peeve of mine, and it's not just the ever loathsome Bruins. It's across the league. Maybe it has become part of the CODE. Retaliation for a clean hit means his teammates figure he's not man enough to take care of himself and fight his own battles. It is street gang mentality but it also demeans the guy they are supposedly standing up for. He's not tough enough to be in the league without his buddies help.

I'd like to see a 5 minute instigator for that instead of 2, or a double minor. It starts so many unnecessary scrums, fights and delays etc. and all because the game was being played the way it is meant to be. You rarely see it in NFL where there are way more heavy, jarring hits. Those games would never end. But they are high speed warriors like hockey yet they have self control. They are more professional.

Even an illegal hit should be dealt by the refs. If a dirty play does not get called, then frontier justice can come into play (at risk of suspension). If the team is not going to get punished/hurt via penalty, then the player can pay a physical price.
Amen, brother! Well said.
 
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