Frankly I don’t know how else you can describe William Ayers than as a domestic terrorist.DonQuixote said:
Two points:Aardvark154 said:
Aardvark154 said:
Yes, he launched his first political campaign (for the Illinois State Senate) with a getting to know you party in the Ayer's house. There is tons out there about this, and not merely from Republican Party sources.Mcluhan said:
No, Ayers never went to trial due to a "fruits of the poisonous tree" problem with wiretap evidence. From my viewpoint, the problem is not that Bill Ayers has an unsavory past, it rather is that he is far from being "the repentant thief." He has never expressed the slightest repentance or remorse for his actions including among many other things of being involved with planing to bomb a dance at Fort Dix, and the fire bombing of a judge's house.Mcluhan said:
True, particularly if you like very left wing professors, who still feel they did nothing wrong blowing up things.The Crunge said:
Keep clinging to your precipice with this one. It hasn't made a damn bit of difference.Aardvark154 said:
That may entirely be true. Then again, there have been many, many cases through history of hindsight being 20/20! I certainly hope not, but fear that all but the most die-hard may be saying, "you told us so" in another few years.The Crunge said:
And it won't. The desperation the right has in making Ayers an issue was evident when Aardvark tried to compare him to McVeigh. More than a bit of a reach there fella, but I suppose for those who would like to see McCain win this is all they've got left.The Crunge said:
Told us so? About what? That Obama bombs the RNC headquarters in 2012 in his effort to be re-elected?Aardvark154 said:That may entirely be true. Then again, there have been many, many cases through history of hindsight being 20/20! I certainly hope not, but fear that all but the most die-hard may be saying, "you told us so" in another few years.
How the Hell do you figure that? One domestic terrorist and another domestic terrorist. Pray tell me what is the difference other than that one got off on a serious but entirely legal technicality and the other was convicted and executed. If McVeigh had changed places with Ayers there would be people "all over" any Republican Candidate who started his first political campaign in his living room. What’s sauce for the goose, should be sauce for the gander.Asterix said:
And you criticize Governor Palin?!The Crunge said:
Their actions were diabolical, but if there is a way to distinguish between the two, look at their motivation. I find Ayers' motivation somewhat easier to stomach.Aardvark154 said:
On this point Don you are incorrect. Indeed both he and Dohrn were charged. However the charges were dismissed due to contamination of the evidence by inadmissable wiretaps.DonQuixote said:
If you are going to criticize President Bush for lack of judgement, does that not mean that you should pay even greater attention to signs that Senator Obama may suffer from the same fault?The Crunge said:
Boy Aardi you really can spin some fancy convoluted obfuscations here!Aardvark154 said:
McVeigh was a mass murderer. Ayers isn't. To compare the two is ridiculous, and as I said desperate. If this is the best those supporting McCain can come up with he's not just toast, he's burnt toast. Down by 14 points in a new poll today.Aardvark154 said:
Paul Krugman nailed in in an article today saying the GOP has becaome the party of stupidity!The Crunge said:
