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haplessinquiry

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Yes Toronto has beautiful friendly ladies and way less expensive than Ottawa . I've just gotta do some homework and figure out the Ottawa scene
Toronto has lots of ladies and options so maybe for that reason service and prices has to better
Is Toronto actually less expensive than Ottawa? Cost of living there is through the roof.
 

oldawg

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Is Toronto actually less expensive than Ottawa? Cost of living there is through the roof.
Cost of rent is higher in Toronto but grocery is cheaper than Ottawa or the same prices. But this hobby is less expensive with lot's better options in Toronto.

Here in Ottawa 200/HH for a good in shape beautiful provider in Toronto Brampton, Mississauga, Scarborough 120-140 .

But in if you are in the downtown core the cost tend to be a bit higher though
 

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Toronto's GTA population is over 3 million, and Ottawa is over a million. Toronto received much more American and international tourists than Ottawa. Leolist Girls can afford to charge less than Ottawa Girls because they have a high volume of clientele with hh. It is not because you think you pay 140hh or less means that other clients do. The experience and donation vary from one client to the other. Ottawa companions see less clientele and prefer to focus on regulars vs one-night stand ones. This may explain why they have a more strict booking process to avoid spam, time wasters, and no-shows, as the demand is limited, which makes the market high risk. This is not just about deals and fucking. Ottawa's economy is not the best, lol.
This kind of makes sense but low volume and high price should also means good quality I think that what guys are asking for

I also think that low volume depends on the SP but I would say a lot of SP are high volume here in Ottawa
 

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Yes Toronto has beautiful friendly ladies and way less expensive than Ottawa . I've just gotta do some homework and figure out the Ottawa scene
Toronto has lots of ladies and options so maybe for that reason service and prices has to better
Dude in Toronto I've seen a girl who works out, In good shape nice ass with only $100 and she's hotter than half the girls in ottawa who charge more and not that hot lol
 

haplessinquiry

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This kind of makes sense but low volume and high price should also means good quality I think that what guys are asking for

I also think that low volume depends on the SP but I would say a lot of SP are high volume here in Ottawa
I've been hearing from various regulars of mine, that Ottawa is almost dead, ever since after Covid finished, and the prices went through the roof. If these girls want to compete against these guy's own right hands, then a price cut is in order.
 
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This kind of makes sense but low volume and high price should also means good quality I think that what guys are asking for

I also think that low volume depends on the SP but I would say a lot of SP are high volume here in Ottawa
I’d argue most of Ottawa is low volume based on the higher rates and lesser client demand. Higher volume girls will definitely have lower rates. So take your pick based on that correlation.
 

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I’d argue most of Ottawa is low volume based on the higher rates and lesser client demand. Higher volume girls will definitely have lower rates. So take your pick based on that correlation.
I'll say that you are absolutely correct. I believe you know more than me in this regards What's considered low volume 15-20 clients daily lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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I'll say that you are absolutely correct. I believe you know more than me in this regards What's considered low volume 15-20 clients daily lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
According to some lower-volume providers I've talked to, around 3, or even fewer. Some sp are just doing this as a fun sideline, and are happy to have a bit of sexual fun, and pocket a bit of cash after covering their expenses. Seeing as many clients as possible is not their objective.
 

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Toronto's GTA population is over 3 million, and Ottawa is over a million. Toronto received much more American and international tourists than Ottawa. Leolist Girls can afford to charge less than Ottawa Girls because they have a high volume of clientele with hh. It is not because you think you pay 140hh or less means that other clients do. The experience and donation vary from one client to the other. Ottawa companions see less clientele and prefer to focus on regulars vs one-night stand ones. This may explain why they have a more strict booking process to avoid spam, time wasters, and no-shows, as the demand is limited, which makes the market high risk. This is not just about deals and fucking. Ottawa's economy is not the best, lol.
Nearly every girl I see in Ottawa complains that Ottawa is worse than other cities for Johns behaviour.

After the unmentionable website was disclosed and seeing multiple threads like this… I’m not shocked the girls in Ottawa take the precautions they do, and why touring girls won’t come here.

But that begs the question… why is Ottawa specifically so nasty to its SPs? Is it that it’s a government city? Lower wages than the other cities yet similar price of living causing friction?

Though I leave the men here a bit of advice… the girls would probably be a bit nicer to you if you didn’t spend all your time posting their private addresses, calling each every one of them fat, overpriced, and washed up. There’s hundreds to thousands of SPs in this city, so that’s not even objectively true.

As well… these girls will break their backs bending over when you’re nice to them. It’s such a low bar. Bring an iced coffee and make sure you’re not curating a new brand of Parmesan on your dick, suddenly they do a little BBBJ in a massage no extra charge. Crazy how that works when you just don’t suck ( but they do ;) )

I agree there’s more variety in bigger cities. You guys are pretty good at math

I remember why I only go on TERB in brief spurts now, the posts frustrate me pretty fast.
 
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Agree with a lot of this (maybe all, I don’t know any of you personally). I’ve been trying to be less critical and not flag anything unless it’s a real concern that others should know about.

Beyond a lot of pointless and irrelevant comments made on this site, it’s downright trashy to be talking about SWs personal information. Even things like where they are originally from is completely irrelevant.There was one girl that I had seen about a half-dozen times and really enjoyed seeing her, but the last time she was in town she was very cold and closed off and wouldn’t even engage in small talk. She said it was because guys in Ottawa were so gossipy and giving out her personal information on this site. She complained that, like her suitors, she has a private life that she wants to keep private. It’s a shame because I really enjoyed seeing her, but because she has now become so closed off, I probably won’t bother trying to see her anymore.
 

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i often wonder what kind of clients these leolist ads attract.
my only experience with feedback is on this site.
the members here surely do not represent the majority of the men who contact these providers.
this would mean that the opinions expressed here are actually the vocal minority.
as a result, the feedback from providers, about how terrible ottawa is - may be a reflection of the men who are (not) the members on this board ?
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the biggest challenge with this industry is misrepresentation.
the ads lie about age, pictures, descriptions, and services provided.
if there was transparency in the ads - to start with - then the customers would more easily be able to find (what they are looking for).
that would eliminate all the endless searching, and risk in finding a non-scamming provider that will fulfill your specific needs.
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what we actually have, unfortunately are scammers who simply want your money, without providing the promised services.
they use fake promises, fake pictures, etc to lure you in - only to disappoint you when you actually meet them.
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it is ok to be fat. it is ok to have a scar. it is ok to be whatever you are.
nobody is shaming a provider for being (what) they are.
believe it or not - men like all kinds of different things.
there is a market for every body type that exists.
if the provider would actually be truthful, then the clients that "do" choose them, (even knowing everything they are getting) - will be satisfied.
everybody wins.
but nope.
deception rules in this game, and as long as that continues, so does the challenge to find the amazing experience we are searching for.
this also means that we must also continue our own diligence, to protect each other from being scammed, which involves calling-out the offenders with necessary details.
 

monkeybutts69

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i often wonder what kind of clients these leolist ads attract.
my only experience with feedback is on this site.
the members here surely do not represent the majority of the men who contact these providers.
this would mean that the opinions expressed here are actually the vocal minority.
as a result, the feedback from providers, about how terrible ottawa is - may be a reflection of the men who are (not) the members on this board ?
....
the biggest challenge with this industry is misrepresentation.
the ads lie about age, pictures, descriptions, and services provided.
if there was transparency in the ads - to start with - then the customers would more easily be able to find (what they are looking for).
that would eliminate all the endless searching, and risk in finding a non-scamming provider that will fulfill your specific needs.
....
what we actually have, unfortunately are scammers who simply want your money, without providing the promised services.
they use fake promises, fake pictures, etc to lure you in - only to disappoint you when you actually meet them.
....
it is ok to be fat. it is ok to have a scar. it is ok to be whatever you are.
nobody is shaming a provider for being (what) they are.
believe it or not - men like all kinds of different things.
there is a market for every body type that exists.
if the provider would actually be truthful, then the clients that "do" choose them, (even knowing everything they are getting) - will be satisfied.
everybody wins.
but nope.
deception rules in this game, and as long as that continues, so does the challenge to find the amazing experience we are searching for.
this also means that we must also continue our own diligence, to protect each other from being scammed, which involves calling-out the offenders with necessary details.
Of relevance, I just reported a post for making up weird and incriminating lies about an SP and was all but told to fuck off by a mod. Anytime a guy tries to speak up in defense of an SP being ripped apart on here he’s shut down by members or the mods.

The agression in this board is off the charts. I think the other clients are much quieter- the only public facing boards we have are boards like these, so even if we aren’t the majority it’s easy to assume we are the voice of the majority, if that makes sense. And the majority here really seem to *hate* SPs. Some of you fellas make me a bit antsy, and I’m not exactly a small man.

I’d argue the review boards being used to push hateful rhetoric about SP’s does significantly more damage than the fake ads out there. Especially

There’s some helpful guides online to picking apart fakes. I can link them if it would help. After I got used to it and learned how to spot em, I honestly haven’t dealt with a fake photo or anything in a decade.
 

monkeybutts69

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Agree with a lot of this (maybe all, I don’t know any of you personally). I’ve been trying to be less critical and not flag anything unless it’s a real concern that others should know about.

Beyond a lot of pointless and irrelevant comments made on this site, it’s downright trashy to be talking about SWs personal information. Even things like where they are originally from is completely irrelevant.There was one girl that I had seen about a half-dozen times and really enjoyed seeing her, but the last time she was in town she was very cold and closed off and wouldn’t even engage in small talk. She said it was because guys in Ottawa were so gossipy and giving out her personal information on this site. She complained that, like her suitors, she has a private life that she wants to keep private. It’s a shame because I really enjoyed seeing her, but because she has now become so closed off, I probably won’t bother trying to see her anymore.
They give a lot of incriminating info they’d lose their mind if it was shared in tandem/don’t think about how they’ve fucked themselves too if god forbid the missus finds your account. Think…
 
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