SCOTUS LGBTQ JUDGMENT
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That not only in North America do some people consider being gay a sin but some other countries penalty for being gay is death.
The only reason I would refuse service to someone was if they were abusive physically or verbally, Not because they don't have a pair of shoes. Would it be ok to deny a black person service or a drag queen service because their clothes are to bright or loud and the establishment deems that doesn't represent how they want their clients to dress. Where does it end, because that is a slippery slope.
This was also specifically about gay marriage. If a gay person wanted her to build a website for a product or business and she refused because they were gay then yes I would agree with you, that would be wrong .
Yes a person can change attire but what if they deem that the way they dress expresses who they are and why should they change. What if they don't have a change of clothes with them and have traveled a long way. What if a black person or drag queen wants to visit a restaurant and or bar and are told that they clothes are too bright and don't represent the image the establishment is trying to portray, then what. You guys talk a lot about inclusivity but not in all cases? We also don't know if she would have refused to serve the gay person had he wanted a website built about something other than gay marriage
If a white supremacist wanted a website built and was refused service because the creator found it went against his or her beliefs , Would you feel the same way?
It wasn't that long ago when I saw signs that said "no baggy pants, no gang colours". The late beloved CB quickly comes to mind. I remember some people claimed the prohibitions were targeted at only one ethnic group.
So then, high end restaurants in your opinion should not be allowed to turn away customers in wife beater tops and flip flops?
The most important human right is that people are not slaves. They can't be forced to work. They can't be forced to say things they don't believe in. If you think that's not the way it should be, you are pro-slavery.
Should they be allowed to turn away drag queens or black guys in bright or loud colours?
If I owned a restaurant, I'd want my customers to be 100% drag queens in bright or loud colours (skin colour makes no difference) - just like Lizzo! My bet is that those guys all eat and drink like it's their last supper! All those skinny little girls who pretend they don't eat can go get a table at Animal Liberation Kitchen!
If a dress code is in place and it applies to everyone, then YES absolutely if the black person or drag queen is not in the proper attire. The difference is they are not being turned away because of color or gender, it's simply attire which applies to all.
If the dress code is "conservative attire", maybe. That dress code applies to everyone and it's in line with the venue's atmosphere.
Ok fair enough, so them one person can refuse someone service based on what they think doesn't pass the dress code, Correct? That means discrimination can run rampant based on one persons opinion. Doesn't seem right to me
The why maybe,? You didn't have an issue with a shoeless or shirtless person being denied service but now that the person in question is a POC or Trans, its a "maybe". LOL
NO, and you know it because dress codes have been part of the game for years and years. It is specific! You are just chasing your tail just like one of our other friends here. Deep down you know you're wrong but keep on trying to defend the indefensible.
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Hey @squeezer, let say someone is a member of the KKK or some other white supremacy group.
And that person walks into a printing shop wanting to get business cards printed which explicitly say he belongs to KKK on the card.
Do you think the printing shop owner should be allowed to refuse service to the KKK member??
Yes or no??
BTW its just a general, hypothetical question. I'm not directly comparing it to OP's case
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Are you comparing gay marriage to a KKK function/event? One is illegal the other isn't no?
Did you read the last sentence of my post?? Doesnt sound like it.
And lets just focus on the US right now. Then please answer my question with yes or no
Again, you are equating gay marriage to a racist group of white supremist who choose to hate. Do you believe a gay person chooses to be gay?
Is there a AntiGay Act in the US at the present time that we don't know about? I realize if the MagaRepugs get in, this may change but at the moment, there is not right??
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To date, 17 States have enacted laws prohibiting paramilitary training and activities carried out by individuals other than law enforcement officers. Weapons training has also been forbidden if the training was to be used to cause civil disorder. Other State and local legislative efforts to prevent Klan violence include penalties for offenses committed because of racial or religious bias and damages to religious property, requirements that law enforcement agencies collect information on bias crimes, and prohibitions against carrying weapons of any kind at parades or marches. State and national legislation have been proposed to document bias crimes and to collect national data on hate crimes.
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