On the matter of the Quebec issue, I thing the separatist will get a lesson that they will not like and will leave a bad taste in their mouths. The Parti Quebecois is in in turmoil. It is a shattered shriveled shadow if its former self and with the few members remaining they are looking for a new leader to replace Marois that has bolted and retreated to lick her wounds. Two thirds ( 66% ) eligible candidates in the party are running for the new leader of the party.
Scottish independence : Will it happen?
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Indeed it is. The world would be better without artificial countries created by drawing lines on a map without consideration for the peoples. Self determination of peoples must trump all other concerns.
Is this really what we want Europe to look like? (Map shows various European Separatist movements)
Northern Ireland may one day vote to rejoin Ireland. England without Scotland and Northern Ireland will still have a population of approximately 57 million and probably still G-7 eligible.
England will do just fine on its own, with one of the worlds financial centres. Using OTB's yardstick, the richest people in the world do not want to move to Canada or the US; they move to London.
ahh I hope not! I haven't been following too much but my only concern about this has been what effect it will have on scotch prices! (selfish I know) maybe I should stock up!
Quebec nationalists flock to Scotland in hope of witnessing separatist history
The twists and turns in the last two weeks of the Scottish referendum campaign have come as little surprise to Daniel Turp, a Quebec nationalist politician and academic who arrived in Edinburgh this week in the hope of witnessing the birth of a new state.
It is not just that Mr Turp was at the heart of the pro-independence campaign in Quebec in 1995 when the No side hung on for victory by just one per cent after a late Yes surge in the polls.
But in regular talks with leaders of the Scottish National Party, including Alex Salmond, Nicola Sturgeon and Angus Robertson, he said that he predicted much of the drama that has played out.
“The end of the Scottish campaign is absolutely déjà vu,” said Mr Turp, who was chief political advisor to Lucien Bouchard, the Bloc Quebecois leader in 1995, and later served as an MP in the provincial legislature.
He had warned the SNP to be wary of Unionists offering gifts if the polls narrowed. “I said that if they did well, there would be all sorts of late promises of more autonomy and more devolution,” he said. “And look what’s happening now. Ottawa did the same with us. But these promises are hollow. If Scotland votes No, they will be quickly forgotten.”
The twists and turns in the last two weeks of the Scottish referendum campaign have come as little surprise to Daniel Turp, a Quebec nationalist politician and academic who arrived in Edinburgh this week in the hope of witnessing the birth of a new state.
It is not just that Mr Turp was at the heart of the pro-independence campaign in Quebec in 1995 when the No side hung on for victory by just one per cent after a late Yes surge in the polls.
But in regular talks with leaders of the Scottish National Party, including Alex Salmond, Nicola Sturgeon and Angus Robertson, he said that he predicted much of the drama that has played out.
“The end of the Scottish campaign is absolutely déjà vu,” said Mr Turp, who was chief political advisor to Lucien Bouchard, the Bloc Quebecois leader in 1995, and later served as an MP in the provincial legislature.
He had warned the SNP to be wary of Unionists offering gifts if the polls narrowed. “I said that if they did well, there would be all sorts of late promises of more autonomy and more devolution,” he said. “And look what’s happening now. Ottawa did the same with us. But these promises are hollow. If Scotland votes No, they will be quickly forgotten.”
There are more than a few of them in New York and San Francisco but yes they do move to London.... although something like half the millionaire in China are considering moving and the top 3 destinations are Hong Kong, Canada, US....
I love this one... reminds me it's been a while since I've watched this movie, need to see it again soon....
You know much better than noble laureate economists?
Further are you saying that you have a better claim to the Scottish Throne than the Queen?
The Scottish Flag
The Standard of the King/Queen of Scots (used by Royal License for certain purposes: e.g.: The Lord High Commissioner to the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland, the Lord Lyon King of Arms, the keeper of the Great Seal of Scotland [The Scottish First Minister] and Lord Lieutenants of Scottish Counties)
The Royal Standard in Scotland
Keep arguing the past. Should we argue about whether the governments of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown were good for England, Wales, and Northern Ireland?
How about what is good economically, militarily and strategically for Scotland.
Regrettably, judging from the performance of the SNP during the Referendum if Alex Salmond succeeds his brave new Scotland will be a divided and rancorous society with a vindictive style of politics. In other words Scotland as it was before the Union.
How quaint, that the good Lord now have seen fit to grant you clairvoyant powers. I suspect it is a reward for your tireless promoting of the monarchy and christian religion.
Or are you just being foolish??? It is truly sad that the concept of people democratically deciding for themselves is completely foreign to you.
However, are you are aware that if your family is more Scots than Haggis, you grew up and were educated in Scotland, own property in Scotland but currently live in London, you are not eligible to vote in the referendum. On the other hand you are Bulgarian, but marginally speak and read English, have been in the U.K. less than a year, but live in Scotland you can vote in the referendum.
Further given the severe economic dislocation involved in the dissolution of Great Britain and that England had to vote for the Union for it to take place, that this is a issue for all the voters of the U.K.?
