School shooting in Nashville

jcpro

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Its what the conservative media is engaged in right now. Spinning it about politics instead of tackling the mass shooting problem the US has.
Oh, please, to quote Gordon Gecco- my mail has the same color as yours, pal.
 
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Oh, please, to quote Gordon Gecco- my mail has the same color as yours, pal.
What does that mean? I dont get it.
 

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I wonder if the media will call this a hate crime because it was. A trans person shooting up a Christian school.
 

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There's very little difference between your and my media. It's the way you consume that counts.
Whenever a shooting happens it is the conservative media that engage, more or less, in the following logic:

- This is not the time to be talking about gun laws.
- We need to be sending our thoughts and prayers to the victims families.
- Gun laws do not stop gun violence. Only the good guys will abide and the bad guys will always find ways to kill.
- This is not a gun issue. Guns dont kill people. People kill people. We need more mental health support. (While simultaneously working against healthcare access for everyone, let alone mental health help).

Rinse and repeat.
 
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I wonder if the media will call this a hate crime because it was. A trans person shooting up a Christian school.
Intent matters. Wonder what her motive was.
 

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Well, well, well...a first trans school shooter. How will the lefty media spin that?
Gun control is necessary.
Why would "lefty media" need to spin that?

As more people identify as trans, we are going to have more shooters who are trans if we keep with these rates of shootings.
That's just math.
 

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Considering the shooting at the girl scouts center yesterday never even made the national news, it would normally not be very long for the shooting to fade.
If it turns out the shooter was indeed, trans, though, this won't go out of the news for a year, maybe two.
It won't be there all the time, but it will be brought up endlessly to point out how dangerous trans people are. (Or how trans-affirming care drives people to violence, or whatever spin needed to push the narrative of the day.)
 
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Intent matters. Wonder what her motive was.
I'm thinking either she was bullied because she was trans or at a Christian school she was either told God will not accept you or hates you for being trans but to do it more than 10 years later is rare. Maybe she had a lot of built up trauma and just lost it
 
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Considering the shooting at the girl scouts center never even made the national news, it would normally not be very long for the shooting to fade.
If it turns out the shooter was indeed, trans, though, this won't go out of the news for a year, maybe two.
It won't be there all the time, but it will be brought up endlessly to point out how dangerous trans people are. (Or how trans-affirming care drives people to violence, or whatever spin needed to push the narrative of the day.)
She probably had to put up with a lot of bullying and trauma by being a student at a Christian school if they knew she was trans. That doesn't excuse what she did but that could be her motive. The right will politicize this just like the left does when its a young white male. That's the world will live in
 

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Whenever a shooting happens it is the conservative media that engage, more or less, in the following logic:

- This is not the time to be talking about gun laws.
- We need to be sending our thoughts and prayers to the victims families.
- Gun laws do not stop gun violence. Only the good guys will abide and the bad guys will always find ways to kill.
- This is not a gun issue. Guns dont kill people. People kill people. We need more mental health support. (While simultaneously working against healthcare access for everyone, let alone mental health help).

Rinse and repeat.
LOL!! You want change to the "gun culture " ???? There's only one way, the repeal of the 2nd amendment. Notice how the top Democrats avoid the subject? Oh, they LOVE saying they'll ban this or that, but when it comes down to getting to the core of the problem....silence. And thoughts and prayers. As I said: your mail is the same color as mine. They play wedge issues and you play along. You don't consume news well.
 

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I'm thinking either she was bullied because she was trans or at a Christian school she was either told God will not accept you or hates you for being trans but to do it more than 10 years later is rare. Maybe she had a lot of built up trauma and just lost it
I think the media needs another decision tree for Trans - although I suspect "white" over-rides everything - people. I mean you can't be more inclusive than murdering a bunch of people in the US with a gun & then being excused for it because...muh trauma.
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Intent matters. Wonder what her motive was.
There is apparently a manifesto.

And considering the age and gender have been reported two different ways each already, I would hold back on assuming we have this person properly identified yet.

First day of a shooting or any other media violence event tends to have a lot of noise compared to signal.
Things should settle down soon enough.
 
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I think the media needs another decision tree for Trans - although I suspect "white" over-rides everything - people. I mean you can't be more inclusive than murdering a bunch of people in the US with a gun & then being excused for it because...muh trauma.
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Not an excuse but a reason. No need for citizens to have military weapons but that's the country they live in
 

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So this was in the other thread.

tucker is worried that trans people might take the threats against them seriously and become armed.
Create the problem then whine about the results, right wingers.....

That segment by Carlson is from Friday.
The next monday, a trans shooter at a Christian school?

Can we take the Frothy Right mode of analysis and say this proves that it is a false flag organized by Fox News to terrorize Christians and push for additional crackdowns on trans people?

I mean, "it would be irresponsible not to speculate".
 
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Not an excuse but a reason. No need for citizens to have military weapons but that's the country they live in
When people say they want to feel “understood,” - or "reason" in your words, they mean they would like to be forgiven, and not be held responsible, for what they have done

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So this was in the other thread.



That segment by Carlson is from Friday.
The next monday, a trans shooter at a Christian school?

Can we take the Frothy Right mode of analysis and say this proves that it is a false flag organized by Fox News to terrorize Christians and push for additional crackdowns on trans people?

I mean, "it would be irresponsible not to speculate".
I suppose you could, but she killed 9 year old kids but not much outrage from the left, at least not yet
 
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