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basketcase

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Yup, they are pretty bad.
Saudi Arabia seems to rate way worse the Iran, of course.
Israel....
And as usual instead of actually criticizing real human rights abusers you just keep claiming Israel is worse.

Saudi Arabia has recently killed 10,000 in Yemen. Iran's revolutionary guard and their Hezbollah troops have killed tens of thousand sin Syria. Saudi law still sees women as property of men. Iran executes gays. But sure, keep pretending either of them are better than Israel.


But the claim is easily answered; would you rather live in Saudi, Iran, or Israel?
 

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Bullshit. Click on "See the full index>> " and see where that leads.
Click on the link to the article I posted.
Click on the link in the first paragraph where it says 'new poll'.
There you are.

No need for your dishonest bait and switch tactics.
You hardly make a case for anyone being moral when your tactics are like a 60 year old asian SP posting on BP.
 

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And as usual instead of actually criticizing real human rights abusers you just keep claiming Israel is worse.

Saudi Arabia has recently killed 10,000 in Yemen.
I thought you claimed dead in wars aren't immoral?
'Cuz if you're going to count bodies then you're going to have to include the US in this discussion, including both Gulf wars and Afghanistan.
Do you really want to go there?

Iran's revolutionary guard and their Hezbollah troops have killed tens of thousand sin Syria.
Again, how is that different from the US, Russia, Turkey and Israel's actions in Syria?

But if you really want to count wars, you'll have to start discussing all the Israeli wars as well?
Do you really want to go there?
 

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I thought you claimed dead in wars aren't immoral?
'Cuz if you're going to count bodies then you're going to have to include the US in this discussion, including both Gulf wars and Afghanistan.
Do you really want to go there?
Interesting. You repeatedly claim that the US and Israel are horrible for the deaths in war but you refuse to hold Iran or Saudi Arabia to the same standard (and Israel isn't involved in Afghanistan or Iraq).



Again, how is that different from the US, Russia, Turkey and Israel's actions in Syria?...
Other than undermining your claims about how good Iran is, the answer is magnitude. The number of civilian dead that Russia, Iran are responsible for is thousands of times higher than the US. And as far as I'm aware, Israel has only hit Hezbollah military targets.
 

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And more significantly, Iran executes people for being Gay and Saudi considers women to be property. Clearly (and like Pappe) you put your political bias ahead of facts and morals.
 

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I also notice you choose to avoid discussing how you think 46% of Palestinians supporting attacks on civilians is morally equivalent to 53% of Israelis wanting terrorists killed in the act.
 

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I also notice you choose to avoid discussing how you think 46% of Palestinians supporting attacks on civilians is morally equivalent to 53% of Israelis wanting terrorists killed in the act.
So you also support summary execution of people Israel finds with 'knives'?
What next, are you going to come out and say you fully support apartheid next?
 

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And more significantly, Iran executes people for being Gay and Saudi considers women to be property. Clearly (and like Pappe) you put your political bias ahead of facts and morals.
True, both of those are bad.
But you haven't found anything worse then the occupation and apartheid rule.
You need to try harder.
 

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True, both of those are bad.
But you haven't found anything worse then the occupation and apartheid rule.
You need to try harder.
The fact that you think ownership of women and execution of gays is less objectionable to restrictions to prevent terror attacks is absolutely disgusting.

p.s. Hamas has a similar view on gays and women as Saudi Arabia and Iran.
 

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So you also support summary execution of people Israel finds with 'knives'?...
That's a steaming pile of bullshit coming from a guy claiming to be obsessed with accuracy. I guess this is where you claim that all those terrorist attacks were really just Israeli false flags.

And I see you refuse to answer the question. In what world is wanting terrorists killed in the act comparable to supporting attacks on civilians?
 

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The fact that you think ownership of women and execution of gays is less objectionable to restrictions to prevent terror attacks is absolutely disgusting.

p.s. Hamas has a similar view on gays and women as Saudi Arabia and Iran.
Apartheid is ranked as only slightly less horrid then genocide, so I think the comparison is fair.
You may be right though, maybe Israel is only just as bad as Saudi Arabia and Hamas.
 

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This is what you are defending.
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-soldier-20160408-story.html

And yes, you are defending a steaming pile of shit.
So you are still trying to pretend that a country that treats women as property and a country that executes gays are worse than Israel. Pathetic.

And all you have is your repeated bullshit about Israel being apartheid despite the fact that a couple million Arabs have absolutely equal rights to Israeli Jews.
 

basketcase

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This is what you are defending.
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-soldier-20160408-story.html

And yes, you are defending a steaming pile of shit.
It is pathetic that you continue to pretend that shooting a murderer is anywhere equivalent to the 46% of Palestinians who support attack son random civilians. Why are you so afraid to condemn the support for terrorism from almost half of Palestinians?

On a matter of morals, any human would admit that attacks on random civilians is magnitudes worse than killing a terrorist instead of trying to arresting them.
 

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It is pathetic that you continue to pretend that shooting a murderer
Shooting someone accused of murder, which is summary execution.
Countries that respect the rule of law put criminals in court to find out whether they committed a crime or not.
They don't shoot them before they are tried.
 

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Shooting someone accused of murder, which is summary execution.....
And nowhere near as bad as almost half of Palestinians supporting attacks on random civilians.


p.s. Israel prosecutes soldiers for summary execution. Hamas sees it (and terrorism) as de rigueur.
 

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And nowhere near as bad as almost half of Palestinians supporting attacks on random civilians.


p.s. Israel prosecutes soldiers for summary execution. Hamas sees it (and terrorism) as de rigueur.
Attacking Israeli soldiers is within the rights of Palestinians, as a people under illegal occupation.
Executing civilians is against the Geneva conventions.

Now you are supporting executing civilians.
 

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Attacking Israeli soldiers is within the rights of Palestinians, as a people under illegal occupation.....
Besides this being another of your disgusting promotion of warfare, the poll didn't ask about soldiers. Again, here is the exact wording directly from the poll data.

Q51) Concerning armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel, I….
1) Certainly agree 12%
2) agree 34%

http://www.pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll-65-English -Full Text desgine.pdf

Almost half of Palestinians support attacks on civilians and all you do is justify continued violence. Whatever happened to your claims of being pro-peace?
 

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Now you are supporting executing civilians.
So you're back to being a lying piece of trash. You've lost this discussion. Saudi Arabia is worse than Hamas, Iran is worse than the PA, and Israel is far, far better than any of them. Just have some decency and just walk away instead of continuing to prove how much of an immoral fraud you are.
 

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Besides this being another of your disgusting promotion of warfare, the poll didn't ask about soldiers. Again, here is the exact wording directly from the poll data.
Now you're changing the subject.
Attacking civilians is terrorism and I'm against that.
Palestinian attitudes on the matter are bad, as are Israeli attitudes.

But even worse then the 'attitude' is the actual attacking of civilians.
Israel regularly attacks and kills almost 10 times as many civilians, yet you are only offended by the 'attitude' of Palestinians and not the actions of Israelis.
That is offensive and exposes your racist bias.
 
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