Sankofa Square

Why can't they call it "peace" square or something normal?

Nice thought but it ain`t peaceful. Just fix the fucking mess it has become, if you want to observe open drug use, get mugged or assaulted, be harassed by homeless junkies and walking dead mentally ill, come on down. A D - 9 `dozer would be a good start, If they`re allowed, they are encouraged. Deal with reality Chow and your crew of spineless babywipes.
 
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Nice thought but it ain`t peaceful. Just fix the fucking mess it has become, if you want to observe open drug use, get mugged or assaulted, be harassed by homeless junkies and walking dead mentally ill, come on down. A D - 9 `dozer would be a good start, If they`re allowed, they are encouraged. Deal with reality Chow and your crew of spineless babywipes.
"Peace" is not woke enough. It's all about emitting the proper virtue signal and peace doesn't cut the mustard any longer...it's not fashionable...maybe in the 60's...but today, it's about appeasement of a few and not common sense. It's also about silencing anyone who doesn't share the same opinion and labelling them racists.
I'm surprised they didn't name it: "LGBTQ2rU87NHDJQOR Square" where free tampons would be available in the public men's washroom.

knock, knock...
Who's there?
Ghana
Ghana who?
Ghana trip over a dead drug addict in the square.
 
Nice thought but it ain`t peaceful. Just fix the fucking mess it has become, if you want to observe open drug use, get mugged or assaulted, be harassed by homeless junkies and walking dead mentally ill, come on down. A D - 9 `dozer would be a good start, If they`re allowed, they are encouraged. Deal with reality Chow and your crew of spineless babywipes.

Best argument I've heard for calling Rob Frod square.
 
Best argument I've heard for calling Rob Frod square.
He hasn't been mayor for 9 years and Toronto is more of a mess now than it ever was.
Your commie council has and continues to fail you.
 
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Why not Chow-Red Square or Chow-Tiananmen square? Shit even Jack Layton Square is better then Sangofak square .
 
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Sankofa was the name the Akan tribe gave to themselves. ...
According to?


They all say it is a term from the Twi language attributed to the Akan tribe. The Akan were involved in the slave trade but there term Sankofa is about learning from the past. I have no problem with that learning including the role of the Akan in the slave trade but it is factually incorrect to say they named the square after slave traders.
 
I have not read all the posts in this thread. But I will say this: I am not a fan of renaming things for the most part....
So essentially you're saying that we're stuck with whatever things were called a couple hundred years ago?

Hummingbird Centre?
Blue Jay Way?
Roger's Centre?
University of Toronto?
All not their 'original' names.

Maybe Bay St. should have it's name changed back to Bear St, Bloor St. should have the 'e' added back, Toronto changed back to York (or Tkranto), and Kitchener back to Berlin.


I can get arguing that you don't like a new name but there right of a government to name something is pretty well established.
 
He hasn't been mayor for 9 years and Toronto is more of a mess now than it ever was.
Your commie council has and continues to fail you.
Much, much more than 9 years have been extinguished since he led the charge to cancel the Transit City portion of the fully provincially funded Scarborough LRT line which would have already been in operation for a few years now to impose a Scarborough 'subways, subways, subways' extension costing city of Toronto taxpayers $5billion and counting which just had it first tulip planter pierce the ground recently. Talk about a real mess, disaster and chances are it will never be built.

And too boot, tagged onto the mythical Gravy Train explorer was penny pinching, PennyPacker Long Dong Tory's 8 year rain on Toronto reign as mayor where he and his conservative ideologues pinched their pennies that created the catastrophic on the ledge of the fiscal, budgetary and financial collapse that these two bozos left Toronto with as their legacies.

None of those bozos with a total of more than 12 years of screwing Toronto over have been able to achieve what Olivia Chow did in just a few short months, which was to offload the Gardiner and the DVP onto it's rightful proprietor, the provincial gov't, and to extract almost $8billion from the province to pay for the provincial priorities that they have been shirking for so long.

That was/is how your right-wing, conservative mayors and right-wing conservative council majority have failed and will always continue to failyou for well over a decade.

Just the facts.
 
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Much, much more than 9 years have been extinguished since he led the charge to cancel the Transit City portion of the fully provincially funded Scarborough LRT line which would have already been in operation for a few years now to impose a Scarborough 'subways, subways, subways' extension costing city of Toronto taxpayers $5billion and counting which just had it first tulip planter pierce the ground recently. Talk about a real mess, disaster and chances are it will never be built.

And too boot, tagged onto the mythical Gravy Train explorer was penny pinching, PennyPacker Long Dong Tory's 8 year rain on Toronto reign as mayor where he and his conservative ideologues pinched their pennies that created the catastrophic on the ledge of the fiscal, budgetary and financial collapse that these two bozos left Toronto with as their legacies.

None of those bozos with a total of more than 12 years of screwing Toronto over have been able to achieve what Olivia Chow did in just a few short months, which was to offload the Gardiner and the DVP onto it's rightful proprietor, the provincial gov't, and to extract almost $8billion from the province to pay for the provincial priorities that they have been shirking for so long.

That was/is how your right-wing, conservative mayors and right-wing conservative council majority have failed and will always continue to failyou for well over a decade.

Just the facts.
Do you really understand how Toronto council works? You think the mayor has total power as to what gets done and what doesn't? How many votes does the mayor have? Answer: 1

So blaming a specific mayor and not the council as a whole shows how out to lunch you are about how things really work.

Everything you mentioned is the fault of the council which is what I said. But your Ford hatred blinds you to that reality.

The council has been and continues to be heavily Left-leaning. That's a fact.

Toronto needs and has always needed more subways...not streetcars and bike lanes.
 
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Toronto needs and has always needed more subways...not streetcars and bike lanes.
Steetcars are for old-timey (Jurassic, some would say) theme parks. They clog up traffic and are unjusifiably expensive. Stop putting them in Toronto tourism pictures and we can get rid of these dinosaurs.

Bike lanes are for those who think the future is for Torontonians to live impoverished in crowded cities and in tiny apartments, just like they do in China. This generation of Torontonians must be real underachievers if that is their dream/expectation.
 
Maybe Bay St. should have it's name changed back to Bear St, Bloor St. should have the 'e' added back, Toronto changed back to York (or Tkranto), and Kitchener back to Berlin. I can get arguing that you don't like a new name but there right of a government to name something is pretty well established.

I'm really not interested in frivolities, Sankofa is associated with the Akan tribe whom provided the English ships with slaves. And changing New Berlin to Kitchener was the height of mendacity. Lord Kitchener was a mass murderer who first used concentration camps during the Boer War. The inmates of these South African camps were mainly Afrikaner women and children. Why keep him and discard Henry Dundas? And what's wrong with calling Yonge/Dundas Sq, Terry Fox Square.
 
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So essentially you're saying that we're stuck with whatever things were called a couple hundred years ago?

Hummingbird Centre?
Blue Jay Way?
Roger's Centre?
University of Toronto?
All not their 'original' names.

Maybe Bay St. should have it's name changed back to Bear St, Bloor St. should have the 'e' added back, Toronto changed back to York (or Tkranto), and Kitchener back to Berlin.


I can get arguing that you don't like a new name but there right of a government to name something is pretty well established.
No, of course not. However....The Hummingbird Centre was originally the O'Keefe centre, and has had about 5 changes since. Rogers's Centre should have remained Sky Dome. Change isn't always a good thing nor is always a bad thing. What I'm specifically saying is the rush to rename things like Ryerson because of some of the horrible shit they did. And they did horrible shit. But, what I think is better is to remind people of Canada's dark (and not so distant) history. Ryerson set up the public education system in Ontario. He also was the architect for the residential schools. I think it is important that people understand he did both things, one to be applauded, on to be forever tarnished.

But, I'll say this: I am a middle aged white dude. I am fairly left leaning. And I understand there is a desire to re-name/re-think things when it comes to historical figures. As I said in my original post, Sir John A. MacDonald was our first prime minister. He did some great things to help make Canada what it is. He was also a drunkard and did horrible things to our indigenous population. William Lyon McKenzie King led Canada through the Depression and WWII, but he also had racist policies that barred Chinese immigration. We just need to remember to tell both sides of these stories. You look at the US, and they focus on only good things. Like, for example, George Washington handed over power as president in a peaceful transition that lasted until...well, 2020. BUT....he was also a slave owner and enriched himself from this labour.

If there is one thing we know, history is not pretty. Things that were perfectly common and allowed 40 years ago are now verboten. Just like ideas and social conventions. What Washington, MacDonald and Ryerson did back in the day were the norm. Things chance and now we look at them with horror.
 
And what's wrong with Terry Fox Square.
Terry Fox seems to be the only Canadian hero everyone can get behind. I guess when you only live to 22, and have to deal with cancer for the last 4 years of that brief life, you don't have time to say anything that would offend anyone enough to erase the good you've done. Hopefully, that's not the only way someone can retain a legacy of accomplishment in life.
 
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Do you really understand how Toronto council works? You think the mayor has total power as to what gets done and what doesn't? How many votes does the mayor have? Answer: 1

So blaming a specific mayor and not the council as a whole shows how out to lunch you are about how things really work.

Everything you mentioned is the fault of the council which is what I said. But your Ford hatred blinds you to that reality.

The council has been and continues to be heavily Left-leaning. That's a fact.

Toronto needs and has always needed more subways...not streetcars and bike lanes.
You are not only out of your league here; you are from a totally alternate level of consciousness wholly detached from reality, past and present and any hopes of tethering yourself to reality in the future appear dismally futile.

If your intent is to demonstrate how woefully inept, uninformed, mal-informed and willfully blind you are regarding City of Toronto politics and it's functioning, city of Toronto issues and provincial politics, functioning and issues you have succeeded.
 
You are not only out of your league here; you are from a totally alternate level of consciousness wholly detached from reality, past and present and any hopes of tethering yourself to reality in the future appear dismally futile.

If your intent is to demonstrate how woefully inept, uninformed, mal-informed and willfully blind you are regarding City of Toronto politics and it's functioning, city of Toronto issues and provincial politics, functioning and issues you have succeeded.
Sounds like you're stumped.
Are you going to offer a real response or are you just going to run to the nearest men's washroom that stocks tampons?
 
Sounds like you're stumped.
Are you going to offer a real response or are you just going to run to the nearest men's washroom that stocks tampons?
City Councillors 2010-2014
  • Ainslie, Paul - center right
  • Augimeri, Maria
  • Bailão, Ana
  • Berardinetti, Michelle - center right
  • Carroll, Shelley
  • Cho, Raymond - right wing
  • Colle, Josh
  • Crawford, Gary - extreme right wing
  • Crisanti, Vincent - very extreme right-wing
  • Davis, Janet
  • De Baeremaeker, Glenn - center right
  • Del Grande, Mike - right wing
  • Di Giorgio, Frank - extreme right wingf
  • Doucette, Sarah
  • Filion, John - center
  • Fletcher, Paula
  • Ford, Doug - hard core nutjob extreme right wing
  • Fragedakis, Mary - center
  • Grimes, Mark - extreme right wing
  • Holyday, Doug - extreme right wing
  • Kelly, Norm - right wing
  • Layton, Mike
  • Lee, Chin - center right
  • Leon, Peter - center right
  • Lindsay Luby, Gloria
  • Mammoliti, Giorgio - hard core extreme right wing nut job
  • Maloney, James - right wing
  • Matlow, Josh
  • McConnell, Pam
  • McMahon, Mary-Margaret
  • Mihevc, Joe
  • Milczyn, Peter
  • Minnan-Wong, Denzil - extreme right wing
  • Moeser, Ron - right wing
  • Nunziata, Frances - extreme right wing nutjob who holds the most accountability for NOT having a Scarborough subway extension even though she was the one the twat who 'illegally'' quashed the original council vote in favor of the Scarborough LRT. That voted need a 2/3rds majority to over turn, which she unilaterally and illegally ignored which set the stage for ZERO Scarborough subway extension decade plus +++++++++.
  • Palacio, Cesar - center right
  • Parker, John - right wing
  • Pasternak, James - center right
  • Perks, Gord
  • Perruzza, Anthony - center right
  • Ramkhalawansingh, Ceta - center right
  • Robinson, Jaye - center right
  • Shiner, David - center right
  • Stintz, Karen - cente right
  • Thompson, Michael - right wing
  • Vaughan, Adam
  • Wong-Tam, Kristyn


These are the tampons that you are looking for.

Enjoy.
 
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City Councillors 2010-2014
  • Ainslie, Paul - center right
  • Augimeri, Maria
  • Bailão, Ana
  • Berardinetti, Michelle - center right
  • Carroll, Shelley
  • Cho, Raymond - right wing
  • Colle, Josh
  • Crawford, Gary - extreme right wing
  • Crisanti, Vincent - very extreme right-wing
  • Davis, Janet
  • De Baeremaeker, Glenn - center right
  • Del Grande, Mike - right wing
  • Di Giorgio, Frank - extreme right wingf
  • Doucette, Sarah
  • Filion, John - center
  • Fletcher, Paula
  • Ford, Doug - hard core nutjob extreme right wing
  • Fragedakis, Mary - center
  • Grimes, Mark - extreme right wing
  • Holyday, Doug - extreme right wing
  • Kelly, Norm - right wing
  • Layton, Mike
  • Lee, Chin - center right
  • Leon, Peter - center right
  • Lindsay Luby, Gloria
  • Mammoliti, Giorgio - hard core extreme right wing nut job
  • Maloney, James - right wing
  • Matlow, Josh
  • McConnell, Pam
  • McMahon, Mary-Margaret
  • Mihevc, Joe
  • Milczyn, Peter
  • Minnan-Wong, Denzil - extreme right wing
  • Moeser, Ron - right wing
  • Nunziata, Frances
  • Palacio, Cesar - center right
  • Parker, John - right wing
  • Pasternak, James - center right
  • Perks, Gord
  • Perruzza, Anthony - center right
  • Ramkhalawansingh, Ceta - center right
  • Robinson, Jaye - center right
  • Shiner, David - center right
  • Stintz, Karen - cente right
  • Thompson, Michael - right wing
  • Vaughan, Adam
  • Wong-Tam, Kristyn


These are the tampons that you are looking for.

Enjoy.
Lots of lefties on that list and many you deem to be "centre-right" are not and more like centre-left. So your argument holds no water.
 
Lots of lefties on that list and many you deem to be "centre-right" are not and more like centre-left. So your argument holds no water.
Sure, sure, sure .... looking thru your Canadian MAGA lens .... everything is lefty, commie, pinko, latte.

Facts remain that Rob and Doug, Long Dong PennyPacker Tory and right-wing, center right councilors, of which you know jack shit about councilors, from 2010 till mid 2022 have sent the City of Toronto to the precipice of fiscal, budgetary and financial cliff.

"Tampon spill in Canadian MAGA aisle 2"
 
I'm really not interested in frivolities, Sankofa is associated with the Akan tribe whom provided the English ships with slaves. And changing New Berlin to Kitchener was the height of mendacity. Lord Kitchener was a mass murderer who first used concentration camps during the Boer War. The inmates of these South African camps were mainly Afrikaner women and children. Why keep him and discard Henry Dundas? And what's wrong with calling Yonge/Dundas Sq, Terry Fox Square.


dig into the history of Sir George Yonge, the British secretary of war so long as we trying to right perceived past wrongs

yonge street is the longest street in the world, imagine the cost of renaming it?

while you are at it Kings and Queens thorough history have benefited from slavery
how many towns . cities have a king street and / or queen street?
All of them

lets spend a couple of hundred million renaming theses streets in the name of politically correct virtue signaling non-sense , shortly followed by complaints from the loonie left politicians of 'we need more taxpayer money to waste, the city is broke'

the better solution is to rename loonie left politicians as ''former politicians ''.

every dollar wasted on this ridiculous bullshit renaming would have been far better spent by the taxpayer or by local food banks
 
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