You're bang on the money Caveman: it's just a service, like going to the dentist (sorry that's a crappy metaphor, but you know what I mean). I'm an old married man, almost 30 years with the same woman. I like to get naked with hot young chicks, and hope that everyone else is as horny as I am at my age. But I'm done raising kids, and I can afford a bit of money to "waste" on myself. When I was younger, I would not have wanted to tie up time and emotional energy on what is just an amusement, nothing more. But as someone else once wrote on this board "Where else is an old guy like me going to get naked with hot young chicks?" Good luck Frankcastle. Perhaps when your real life is more stable you will join us again for a little amusement. You have helped us all, in one way or another.
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Thanks for the positive comments guys. I was hoping to hear that people understood or had been through similar things and at the same time I think it's something that needs to be considered when you hobby for a long time.
As for some of the negative comments. Well in the past I would have argued it point for point and add another 100 posts to the count but.
How healthy is that if you spend your time talking about me with the girls? If it's during a session or outside of the MP that's a sad waste of time.
How healthy is it if you've developed a distaste for someone on terb?
Not interested in arguing with you guys anymore.
As for some of the negative comments. Well in the past I would have argued it point for point and add another 100 posts to the count but.
How healthy is that if you spend your time talking about me with the girls? If it's during a session or outside of the MP that's a sad waste of time.
How healthy is it if you've developed a distaste for someone on terb?
Not interested in arguing with you guys anymore.
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Thanks for all the kind words guys.
Sheik,
I hope you don't think I was calling you the town whore. All I meant by it was that given your invovlement with the board and people in he biz. Taking your advice seemed funny kinda like
a) diet tips from a fat guy
b) how to stop drinking from an alcoholic
c) driving lessons from Mrs. Daisy
d) hair care tips from Albert Einstein
e) dirty barroom fight tactics from Ghandi
f) pronounciation from Bob Dylan
Hope you can see the humour in it as it wasn't meant to be a personal attack. I think spending too much time on terb makes one think everything is about them (and I certainly got to a point where even the slightest jab was like a haymaker and I'd respond with a flurry of responses).
Sheik,
I hope you don't think I was calling you the town whore. All I meant by it was that given your invovlement with the board and people in he biz. Taking your advice seemed funny kinda like
a) diet tips from a fat guy
b) how to stop drinking from an alcoholic
c) driving lessons from Mrs. Daisy
d) hair care tips from Albert Einstein
e) dirty barroom fight tactics from Ghandi
f) pronounciation from Bob Dylan
Hope you can see the humour in it as it wasn't meant to be a personal attack. I think spending too much time on terb makes one think everything is about them (and I certainly got to a point where even the slightest jab was like a haymaker and I'd respond with a flurry of responses).
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Hey I wrote that apology/clarification based on this post which followed your original post to which I responded that's why I assume you read the whore reference.Sheik said:
Perhaps you won't value
what I say. At least maybe you won't today. But you seem reasonably bright enough to be able to reflect. Perhaps you will come back and think about this some day. Or, perhaps not.
1) It's okay to be mistaken. Even 4 times. Even 40 times. Learn from experience and move on. I myself wouldn't want a girlfriend whose job was to give hand jobs to other guys. I might want her in bed - but I know myself well enough to know I couldn't handle a girlfriend getting sexual with another guy. But that doesn't mean it couldn't have worked for you. I'm not saying there is something wrong with the profession - I'm just saying I, as a person, couldn't hack it.
Without a doubt, some girls have dated their clients - a few are obviously married or in serious relationships.
But without a doubt, there are more liars in the profession on matters like this. Some just want to feed your fantasy. Some want to string you along. some genuinely consider it, but for very good reasons decide against it (respect issue, obviously). Some even like deceiving you - they will see it as revenge - you using their need for money against them - they in return using your lust against you.
2) Paid sex is a game (a subset of the game of sex) - the grandest game of all.
It's played on many levels. There's the strippers. There's the massage parlour girls (various sub levels there) and the independent masseuses. There's the hookers and streetwalkers. There's the escorts (at various sub levels). There's the high priced escorts. There's the escorts for the select few. There's the mistresses. There's the models willing to be mistresses.
It's all out there. The amount you spent might be a fortune for you (which means you should seriously cut back) or it might be chump change. Don't be something your not.
3) Don't assume you know yourself best - the hardest thing for a person to do is to be self-aware (you may recall an earlier thread I started with this as a theme). That's just bad advice to be told otherwise.
4) If you are finding trouble dating, because of this hobby, make no mistake about it, this is a clear symptom that something is wrong. There are plenty of hot girls out there looking for boyfriends.
It's far more of an accomplishment to get a hot girlfriend the traditional way, than to get one who knows you're willing to part with funds for a hand job from her.
It's a clear symptom you are in a disconnect now with your desires for the opposite sex. You are channeling your desires in an unhealthy way.
My diagnosis is sexual addiction (which doesn't mean what people think it means). Combine this with a problem developing relationships with women. Worth talking to a doctor about.
I'm not saying this in a condescending way - I'm saying this as someone who knows these topics too well.
5) Your inability to leave this board is a symptom as well. Announcing the need to leave this board is a symptom. (If you weren't addicted to it, and therefore didn't care about it, you wouldn't feel the need to announce it). But your addiction to it is tied to the status you perceive it gives you.
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Best of luck.
what I say. At least maybe you won't today. But you seem reasonably bright enough to be able to reflect. Perhaps you will come back and think about this some day. Or, perhaps not.
1) It's okay to be mistaken. Even 4 times. Even 40 times. Learn from experience and move on. I myself wouldn't want a girlfriend whose job was to give hand jobs to other guys. I might want her in bed - but I know myself well enough to know I couldn't handle a girlfriend getting sexual with another guy. But that doesn't mean it couldn't have worked for you. I'm not saying there is something wrong with the profession - I'm just saying I, as a person, couldn't hack it.
Without a doubt, some girls have dated their clients - a few are obviously married or in serious relationships.
But without a doubt, there are more liars in the profession on matters like this. Some just want to feed your fantasy. Some want to string you along. some genuinely consider it, but for very good reasons decide against it (respect issue, obviously). Some even like deceiving you - they will see it as revenge - you using their need for money against them - they in return using your lust against you.
2) Paid sex is a game (a subset of the game of sex) - the grandest game of all.
It's played on many levels. There's the strippers. There's the massage parlour girls (various sub levels there) and the independent masseuses. There's the hookers and streetwalkers. There's the escorts (at various sub levels). There's the high priced escorts. There's the escorts for the select few. There's the mistresses. There's the models willing to be mistresses.
It's all out there. The amount you spent might be a fortune for you (which means you should seriously cut back) or it might be chump change. Don't be something your not.
3) Don't assume you know yourself best - the hardest thing for a person to do is to be self-aware (you may recall an earlier thread I started with this as a theme). That's just bad advice to be told otherwise.
4) If you are finding trouble dating, because of this hobby, make no mistake about it, this is a clear symptom that something is wrong. There are plenty of hot girls out there looking for boyfriends.
It's far more of an accomplishment to get a hot girlfriend the traditional way, than to get one who knows you're willing to part with funds for a hand job from her.
It's a clear symptom you are in a disconnect now with your desires for the opposite sex. You are channeling your desires in an unhealthy way.
My diagnosis is sexual addiction (which doesn't mean what people think it means). Combine this with a problem developing relationships with women. Worth talking to a doctor about.
I'm not saying this in a condescending way - I'm saying this as someone who knows these topics too well.
5) Your inability to leave this board is a symptom as well. Announcing the need to leave this board is a symptom. (If you weren't addicted to it, and therefore didn't care about it, you wouldn't feel the need to announce it). But your addiction to it is tied to the status you perceive it gives you.
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Best of luck.
Interesting post TQM,
Strangely enough I wasn't expecting all this response and PMs. You make a lot of good points. I've tried to limit myself on terb to reading this post adn going back to what it should be a resource not a way of life.
The money I'm okay with parting with it. But let's face it that's a nice high end car if I had been saving it.
Addictions and other problems. Maybe you have point. Nobody likes to admit that they have a problem. I always told myself well..... I'm dating regular girls and not spending credit on mpas so it's all good. Definitely time on terb has been too much in the past which is why I've decided to make it a goal to stay away from the stupid fights and bickering. As for not hobbying well it's day 12 and still feeling okay. I feel good that I haven't been trying to make excuses to go to a MP which was tough to do with the whole day free.
Anyways, getting fellow hobbyest's perspective on this has really helped me a lot. It's forced me to think about thigs, reevaluate things and just know that others have gone through similar things.
To use alcohol as an analogy I'd like to go back to the glass of wine or beer at dinner kind of a guy rather than a frat boy who's spent the summer tree planting with no girls in sight and just recieved his OSAP cheque.
Anyways, gotta get going just looking to go out and do some normal shit tonight..... smoke a little, hang out with friends go to a club (not a SC LOL).
Strangely enough I wasn't expecting all this response and PMs. You make a lot of good points. I've tried to limit myself on terb to reading this post adn going back to what it should be a resource not a way of life.
The money I'm okay with parting with it. But let's face it that's a nice high end car if I had been saving it.
Addictions and other problems. Maybe you have point. Nobody likes to admit that they have a problem. I always told myself well..... I'm dating regular girls and not spending credit on mpas so it's all good. Definitely time on terb has been too much in the past which is why I've decided to make it a goal to stay away from the stupid fights and bickering. As for not hobbying well it's day 12 and still feeling okay. I feel good that I haven't been trying to make excuses to go to a MP which was tough to do with the whole day free.
Anyways, getting fellow hobbyest's perspective on this has really helped me a lot. It's forced me to think about thigs, reevaluate things and just know that others have gone through similar things.
To use alcohol as an analogy I'd like to go back to the glass of wine or beer at dinner kind of a guy rather than a frat boy who's spent the summer tree planting with no girls in sight and just recieved his OSAP cheque.
Anyways, gotta get going just looking to go out and do some normal shit tonight..... smoke a little, hang out with friends go to a club (not a SC LOL).
Like everything in life, the key to success is moderation.
If you become obsessed with hobbying, then you need to quit.
If you go for the odd rub and tug maybe every 2 weeks, I don't see that as a problem. (Maybe that's just me.)
I don't believe that it is IMPOSSIBLE for and MPA and a client to fall in love. Then again, I do believe in Santa Claus. But seriously, it can and does happen, but it should be like any other relationship - things should progress fairly quickly and without drama and over analsis.
If you become obsessed with hobbying, then you need to quit.
If you go for the odd rub and tug maybe every 2 weeks, I don't see that as a problem. (Maybe that's just me.)
I don't believe that it is IMPOSSIBLE for and MPA and a client to fall in love. Then again, I do believe in Santa Claus. But seriously, it can and does happen, but it should be like any other relationship - things should progress fairly quickly and without drama and over analsis.
As in the thread started by Whitestrip, Frank is facing a dilemma I think most feel about this hobby, provider and client. We all come to a point where we question if our decisions are the right ones for us. As is the case for providers who retire there comes a time when we as clients must consider reducing or eliminating or involvement. There are a few retired SP's that have told me that the toll the business has had on them mentally and physically was so great that it was the main reason for there decision to quit the business. This was also true in my case where the joy I got from seeing these girls faded quicker the more I hobbied. I found myself feeeling too guilty about deceiving the girlfriend. Best of luck Frank, I hope things go well no matter what you do.
FC.. you always come across like a nice guy... but seriously, if you have no discipline, why keep coming back? Just leave. Trust me.. the world is filled with delusional folks who dedicate themselves to the online community. It is a pathetic waste of time.
I did enjoy when you called Sheik the town whore though... and then to back out of that one, implied he was a fat, mumbling, old, alcoholic with bad hair who can't drive (yes, I know I am twisting your apology a bit
I did enjoy when you called Sheik the town whore though... and then to back out of that one, implied he was a fat, mumbling, old, alcoholic with bad hair who can't drive (yes, I know I am twisting your apology a bit
FC... good luck on your self-imposed retirement. My suggestion is that you quit cold turkey and don't log on. It seems that you have a compulsive type of personality, and I think you will get drawn in like you have been on this thread..Garrett said:
I enjoyed that as well.... I am sure that FC did not even know that Sheik was a fat bald, mumbling, old drunk ...Garrett said:I did enjoy when you called Sheik the town whore though... and then to back out of that one, implied he was a fat, mumbling, old, alcoholic with bad hair who can't drive (yes, I know I am twisting your apology a bit
This just goes to show us all how everyone is different. You used to hobby a lot, now you rarely do. Frank Castle plans on stopping paying for sex and surfing the boards and focus more on his life. Then you have this other poster on here with a thread dedicated to all of his reviews including reference numbers and his own rating system. This poster recently got back from a vacation in which he blew over $5,000 on prostitution and he shows no signs of slowing down.Sheik said:
Somebody like Sheik can be looked up to, and somebody like Frank Castle deserves the best of luck. But that other poster (I'm not mentioning his name) needs to seriously get himself checked out because he is seriously addicted to prostitution. He deserves guidance, therapy and he needs to improve his self-esteem.
Is this comment from you honestly necessary? Judging by what others have said about you on the "other board" you sound like someone who is also in need of help. It seems that everyone here has issues, however some are more serious than others.Svend said:
Please be polite when responding to me Mr. Svend, as I have done you no harm. In this thread we are all wishing Frank Castle the best of luck on his new voyage in life and also giving pointers to one another. You don't seem to be contributing positively, so maybe you should leave and come-back when you have something positive to say.
check yourself... thats so right.... you all have way more spare time than i do......
lmao and i have alot of spare time
--- if you are unhappy with something in your life only you can change it
--- if you have to pay for it its a service ( like an oil change )
--- to much of a good thing often becomes unhealthy ( like fast food )
--- a fantasy is not a valid substitution for reality ( wow is not real pple ..lmao )
and thats just my 2 cents
lmao and i have alot of spare time
--- if you are unhappy with something in your life only you can change it
--- if you have to pay for it its a service ( like an oil change )
--- to much of a good thing often becomes unhealthy ( like fast food )
--- a fantasy is not a valid substitution for reality ( wow is not real pple ..lmao )
and thats just my 2 cents
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