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bver_hunter

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Trump loves Putin although he is a brutal dictator. Once again, The Opposition Leader looks like he is following a trend of being poisoned by this Dictator!!

Alexei Navalny taken from jail to hospital, as hundreds held at anti-government protests:
Russian opposition leader ill after exposure to 'undefined chemical'
Alexei Navalny taken from jail to hospital, as hundreds held at anti-government protests

Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny has been hospitalised, with symptoms that one of his doctors said appeared to be “the result of harmful effects of undefined chemical substances”.

Navalny was taken to hospital on Sunday morning from jail, where he was serving a 30-day sentence after being arrested last week for calling people to attend an anti-government protest.

The protest went ahead on Saturday, and prompted the most forceful police response to protests in the country for years, with more than 1,300 people detained by officers.

People were protesting against the refusal of electoral authorities to register independent candidates for the Moscow city council elections in September.

Although there was no sign that his life is in immediate danger, the news about Navalny’s health will cause alarm, in a country where opposition politician Boris Nemtsov was shot dead outside the Kremlin in 2015.

On Sunday morning, Navalny’s spokeswoman, Kira Yarmysh, said he had suffered a “severe allergic reaction”, and added that he had never complained of allergies before. She said Navalny had suffered “severe swelling of the face and skin redness”.

On Sunday afternoon, Navalny associate Leonid Volkov said he was not minded to see foul play in Navalny’s condition, saying he had been held in exactly the same cell last month and also suffered a skin rash, citing poor sanitary conditions in the jail.

However later on Sunday, Anastasia Vasilieva, one of Navalny’s doctors, wrote in a Facebook post that she and a colleague had visited Navalny in hospital, and had first been denied access but were eventually able to examine him.

An ophthalmologist, who treated Navalny after he was doused with green dye by pro-Kremlin activists in 2017 in an attack that left him temporarily blind in one eye, Vasilieva said it was clear Navalny was not suffering from an allergy but from exposure to toxic substances.

“We cannot exclude toxic damage to the skin by chemicals induced by a ‘third person’,” she wrote. She called on the hospital administration to immediately allow proper medical care for Navalny. The hospital has not yet made an official statement.

Police detained at least 10 of Navalny’s supporters who had gathered outside the hospital late on Sunday evening, according to a correspondent for Russia’s TV Rain.

Several other opposition politicians remain in jail, held on the charge of “obstructing the work of the electoral commission”, and police have carried out late-night searches of their homes in recent days.

Most of the more than 1,300 protesters detained on Saturday were released without charge, but more than 150 spent the night in police stations and may face court cases this week. An independent monitoring group said at least 25 people sustained injuries at the hands of police.

Saturday’s protest came a week after more than 20,000 people rallied in central Moscow to protest against the decision to ban the candidates from standing in September’s local vote, on what the opposition says is the invented pretext that some of the signatures collected to support their candidacies were faked.

The turnout shocked authorities, prompting them to arrest Navalny and declare this weekend’s protest illegal.

On Saturday morning, Moscow mayor Sergei Sobyanin warned people that they could face arrest if they tried to protest, and riot police had clearly been given orders to move forcefully against the demonstrators. Large areas of the centre were cordoned off, and police used rough tactics and batons to detain protesters despite their action remaining peaceful.

Natalia Zviagina, of Amnesty International, said the violent response to the protest was a “new low” for Russian authorities and called on police to release all of those detained. “No one should be imprisoned for merely exercising their rights to expression and peaceful assembly,” she said.

Opposition leaders have said they will call another protest for this coming Saturday, 3 August, in an attempt to keep up the pressure on authorities.

Russian president Vladimir Putin, who on Saturday descended in a miniature submarine to inspect the wreck of a second world war submarine, had not commented on the protests or the arrests as of Sunday. State TV has also largely ignored the unrest, but millions of Russians watched live streams of Saturday’s events on YouTube.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...on-calls-for-more-protests-after-mass-arrests
 

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Trump loves Putin although he is a brutal dictator. Once again, The Opposition Leader looks like he is following a trend of being poisoned by this Dictator!!

Alexei Navalny taken from jail to hospital, as hundreds held at anti-government protests:
Russian opposition leader ill after exposure to 'undefined chemical'
Alexei Navalny taken from jail to hospital, as hundreds held at anti-government protests

Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny has been hospitalised, with symptoms that one of his doctors said appeared to be “the result of harmful effects of undefined chemical substances”.

Navalny was taken to hospital on Sunday morning from jail, where he was serving a 30-day sentence after being arrested last week for calling people to attend an anti-government protest.

The protest went ahead on Saturday, and prompted the most forceful police response to protests in the country for years, with more than 1,300 people detained by officers.

People were protesting against the refusal of electoral authorities to register independent candidates for the Moscow city council elections in September.

Although there was no sign that his life is in immediate danger, the news about Navalny’s health will cause alarm, in a country where opposition politician Boris Nemtsov was shot dead outside the Kremlin in 2015.

On Sunday morning, Navalny’s spokeswoman, Kira Yarmysh, said he had suffered a “severe allergic reaction”, and added that he had never complained of allergies before. She said Navalny had suffered “severe swelling of the face and skin redness”.

On Sunday afternoon, Navalny associate Leonid Volkov said he was not minded to see foul play in Navalny’s condition, saying he had been held in exactly the same cell last month and also suffered a skin rash, citing poor sanitary conditions in the jail.

However later on Sunday, Anastasia Vasilieva, one of Navalny’s doctors, wrote in a Facebook post that she and a colleague had visited Navalny in hospital, and had first been denied access but were eventually able to examine him.

An ophthalmologist, who treated Navalny after he was doused with green dye by pro-Kremlin activists in 2017 in an attack that left him temporarily blind in one eye, Vasilieva said it was clear Navalny was not suffering from an allergy but from exposure to toxic substances.

“We cannot exclude toxic damage to the skin by chemicals induced by a ‘third person’,” she wrote. She called on the hospital administration to immediately allow proper medical care for Navalny. The hospital has not yet made an official statement.

Police detained at least 10 of Navalny’s supporters who had gathered outside the hospital late on Sunday evening, according to a correspondent for Russia’s TV Rain.

Several other opposition politicians remain in jail, held on the charge of “obstructing the work of the electoral commission”, and police have carried out late-night searches of their homes in recent days.

Most of the more than 1,300 protesters detained on Saturday were released without charge, but more than 150 spent the night in police stations and may face court cases this week. An independent monitoring group said at least 25 people sustained injuries at the hands of police.

Saturday’s protest came a week after more than 20,000 people rallied in central Moscow to protest against the decision to ban the candidates from standing in September’s local vote, on what the opposition says is the invented pretext that some of the signatures collected to support their candidacies were faked.

The turnout shocked authorities, prompting them to arrest Navalny and declare this weekend’s protest illegal.

On Saturday morning, Moscow mayor Sergei Sobyanin warned people that they could face arrest if they tried to protest, and riot police had clearly been given orders to move forcefully against the demonstrators. Large areas of the centre were cordoned off, and police used rough tactics and batons to detain protesters despite their action remaining peaceful.

Natalia Zviagina, of Amnesty International, said the violent response to the protest was a “new low” for Russian authorities and called on police to release all of those detained. “No one should be imprisoned for merely exercising their rights to expression and peaceful assembly,” she said.

Opposition leaders have said they will call another protest for this coming Saturday, 3 August, in an attempt to keep up the pressure on authorities.

Russian president Vladimir Putin, who on Saturday descended in a miniature submarine to inspect the wreck of a second world war submarine, had not commented on the protests or the arrests as of Sunday. State TV has also largely ignored the unrest, but millions of Russians watched live streams of Saturday’s events on YouTube.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...on-calls-for-more-protests-after-mass-arrests
Navalny organized a demonstration without obtaining a municipal permit; he had obtained a permit for a demonstration last week, but it was clear that his goal this week was to disrupt road traffic on Moscow's busiest thoroughfare. Any police department uses some force to disperse illegal gatherings. In Canada, we have the Riot Act. We even had kettling in Toronto.

It wouldn't matter that his signatures were fake or not: he has only limited support in Moscow, and none in the rest of the country. But the head of the electoral commission is a liberal who was a member of the Yeltsin cabinet, and considered an impartial person with no ideological bent.

Navalny is considered a crackpot and a right wing fanatic.

This is what the corporate mainstream media fails to report.

If Putin is a brutal dictator, how do you figure that he's got a favourable rating of over 65%, and that's after reducing pensions and implement a VAT (GST in Canada)?

The mainstream media is corporate owned, and the corporations own the government. That was Mussolini's definition of fascism. That's what the US government is, along with its lapdog the UK government. And its all for money.
 

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Navalny organized a demonstration without obtaining a municipal permit; he had obtained a permit for a demonstration last week, but it was clear that his goal this week was to disrupt road traffic on Moscow's busiest thoroughfare. Any police department uses some force to disperse illegal gatherings. In Canada, we have the Riot Act. We even had kettling in Toronto.
Are you seriously defending Putin's attempt to stifle public dissent with force?
Do you really prefer rule by autocrats?
 

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Are you seriously defending Putin's attempt to stifle public dissent with force?
Do you really prefer rule by autocrats?


Navaly held a demonstration last week and the authorities did not intervene because he applied for and received a municipal permit public assembly.

So why did he receive a permit last week and not this week?

Because it was clear that he intended to disrupt traffic on Moscow's busiest throroughfare.... which he did, and why the police intervened in order to disperse an illegal public assembly. Any municipality in the Western world has the same rules and would have done the same. Try organizing a march on the 401 at Yonge St. and see what happens: you'll be standing in front of a judge the next day.

But because you buy the kool-aid that Putin is a dictator, municipal assembly permits should not apply in Russia.

And you think that Putin has the time to approve individual municipal permits in the largest country in the world? He's got much better things to do with his time and you're totally delusional if you think so.
 

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Everybody knows that it was the British behind the fake Skirpal poisoning affair. Now the shill Guardian is pulling out the same meme. The reality is that Foreign NGO's and media inside of Russia are oeprating as a fifth column. They've been attacking Russia for Centuries. They're is very little support within Russia for these folks as well as the Communists. Just more foreign meddling into the affairs of anyone that does not want to sell out it's Country and resources to the Banking Elite in the City of London.
 

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Navaly held a demonstration last week and the authorities did not intervene because he applied for and received a municipal permit public assembly.

So why did he receive a permit last week and not this week?

Because it was clear that he intended to disrupt traffic on Moscow's busiest throroughfare.... which he did, and why the police intervened in order to disperse an illegal public assembly. Any municipality in the Western world has the same rules and would have done the same. Try organizing a march on the 401 at Yonge St. and see what happens: you'll be standing in front of a judge the next day.

But because you buy the kool-aid that Putin is a dictator, municipal assembly permits should not apply in Russia.

And you think that Putin has the time to approve individual municipal permits in the largest country in the world? He's got much better things to do with his time and you're totally delusional if you think so.
Putin is a plutocrat/autocrat or maybe oligarch leader. Another 'populist' who is there to make him and his friends richer at the expense of the country and its freedom.
Just the type of leader the right wingers here now seem to like.

Is Russia really your model country now?
 

bver_hunter

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Navalny organized a demonstration without obtaining a municipal permit; he had obtained a permit for a demonstration last week, but it was clear that his goal this week was to disrupt road traffic on Moscow's busiest thoroughfare. Any police department uses some force to disperse illegal gatherings. In Canada, we have the Riot Act. We even had kettling in Toronto.

It wouldn't matter that his signatures were fake or not: he has only limited support in Moscow, and none in the rest of the country. But the head of the electoral commission is a liberal who was a member of the Yeltsin cabinet, and considered an impartial person with no ideological bent.

Navalny is considered a crackpot and a right wing fanatic.

This is what the corporate mainstream media fails to report.

If Putin is a brutal dictator, how do you figure that he's got a favourable rating of over 65%, and that's after reducing pensions and implement a VAT (GST in Canada)?

The mainstream media is corporate owned, and the corporations own the government. That was Mussolini's definition of fascism. That's what the US government is, along with its lapdog the UK government. And its all for money.
Where do you get all your information from?? Some online Conspiracy Theory websites that are either favourable to the Russians or operated by them. You seem to be a spokesperson for this Putin regime.

So it is okay then to poison this individual. Ohhh.... I guess this was some foreign entity like the British or the Americans who were involved in it. WOW!!

The MSM owned and operated by Corporations who own the Government. So which media owns Trump, is it Fox News or Breitbart??

Navalny exposed the corruption by the Putin regime that is why he was not granted permission to demonstrate. However, he is not the only leader to be arrested:

Many of the opposition’s key leaders have been jailed in the past week, either before or after Saturday’s protest. Mikhail Svetov, head of the Libertarian Party, was arrested on Tuesday outside the Moscow government’s offices immediately after he left negotiations on the protest site there, his party colleagues said.
https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...y-illness-suspects-poisoned/story?id=64653178
 

bver_hunter

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Everybody knows that it was the British behind the fake Skirpal poisoning affair. Now the shill Guardian is pulling out the same meme. The reality is that Foreign NGO's and media inside of Russia are oeprating as a fifth column. They've been attacking Russia for Centuries. They're is very little support within Russia for these folks as well as the Communists. Just more foreign meddling into the affairs of anyone that does not want to sell out it's Country and resources to the Banking Elite in the City of London.
I guess these two individuals were British MI5 or MI6 agents in your History Book:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...received-mystery-phone-call-following-attack\
 

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Normally, the lefties would say "Russia is far away" we are only concerned with Bloor and Yonge. Oh wait, the lefties only say that when Muslim suicide bombers kill people in Sri Lanka, Afghanistan, Iraq, Mali, Faso Burkina, Pakistan, India, etc. A Canadian woman was killed in Somalia and the lefties shrugged and said "where is Somalia?".
 

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Right wingers were always okay with the gazillions of posts that are anti-Muslim even if it involved a remote village halfway around the Globe.
Now they are ticked off that a dangerous despot and his criminal activities are being posted on here. Why, because he has his ass kissed by their cult leader who has nothing but praise for this individual.
Every single person who is sane, has condemned every act of terrorism be it Muslim or Extreme Right wing. But we had an individual who passionately defended a certain Neo-nazi called James Fields in countless emails for over a year. All the right wingers on this Board were hush hush about it. Moreover, there was a certain other right winger that even labelled the Yonge Street killer as a Muslim way before the police even revealed his true identity. Not long before we see dozens more anti-Muslim posts, once again. The right wingers love such posts!!
 

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Bver, please visit my "Nude Beaches" and/or my "Who is This Person" threads. There are pics of naked women. It is not healthy to spend 24/7 in the Political Forum.
 

bver_hunter

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Bver, please visit my "Nude Beaches" and/or my "Who is This Person" threads. There are pics of naked women. It is not healthy to spend 24/7 in the Political Forum.
Darts, I have numerous posts in the Massage, Escort and other forums. This is really the primary reason why we are on this board. As usual stop spending false information as you spend more time on this Political Forum!!
 

Darts

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I have numerous posts in the Massage, Escort and other forums.
Good! Different strokes for different folks (no pun intended).

I don't spread false news but I do look at life through a more realistic prism than some other people.
 

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The mainstream media is corporate owned, and the corporations own the government. That was Mussolini's definition of fascism. That's what the US government is, along with its lapdog the UK government. And its all for money.
That's interesting wilbur. Just curious if Canada has been in the same scenario?
 

bver_hunter

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No, a realistic and pragmatic prism. An independent thinker. Reason over passion.
In your dreams it can be considered to be a "pragmatic"prism. No way that an alt right prism is the way to look at politics today. Wake up to reality!!
 
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