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Russia will invade and occupy Ukraine before the end of February. China will invade and occupy Taiwan right after the Olympics.

dirtydaveiii

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You don't know half of it. Denmark is amassing an invasion force in Greenland to take the Canadian arctic, before USA moves in. I believe USA and Denmark has come to an agreement of Peace in our time.
Canada goes to war with Denmark on Hans Island
 

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Russia and China are both gaging the American will to send troops and risk American service lives, the so called blood and treasure, to defend Ukraine and/or Taiwan. For all his phony bravado and tough talk the other guy was shown to be a paper tiger. Well other than whimsically invoking tariffs. At least with Joe he means what he says and doesn't use laughable rhetoric which is aimed more at his base than his adversaries.
 
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Russia and China are both gaging the American will to send troops and risk American service lives, the so called blood and treasure, to defend Ukraine and/or Taiwan. For all his phony bravado and tough talk the other guy was shown to be a paper tiger. Well other than whimsically invoking tariffs. At least with Joe he means what he says and doesn't use laughable rhetoric which is aimed more at his base than his adversaries.
So he meant it when he said he would allow for a limited incursion?
 
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In Pentagon war games. Scenario being could the US prevent China from taking Taiwan. US lost each time they played it out.
Im sceptical of this. Taiwan has built up a substantial defense force. And it's hella difficult to take an island. Sea landings are tricky and supply lines hard to maintain. And remember it wouldn't just be the USA. Britain has carrier groups there and between, Guam, Japan, Australia and more the USA could keep up aerial hits on ships trying to land forever. The cost to China would be enormous. And it would give the USA the excuse it needs sanction wise to take trillions, confiscate land and more. With many other nations following suit.
 
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dirtydaveiii

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Russia and China are both gaging the American will to send troops and risk American service lives, the so called blood and treasure, to defend Ukraine and/or Taiwan. For all his phony bravado and tough talk the other guy was shown to be a paper tiger. Well other than whimsically invoking tariffs. At least with Joe he means what he says and doesn't use laughable rhetoric which is aimed more at his base than his adversaries.
The funny part about that was the orange turds followers had no idea that they were paying heavy taxes for.chinese goods. Orange turd made them believe it was China paying. It'd amazing how utterly stupid his believers are. They would literally belive anything he tells them no matter how stupid or obviously false it is.
 

danmand

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Im sceptical of this. Taiwan has built up a substantial defense force. And it's hella difficult to take an island. Sea landings are tricky and supply lines hard to maintain. And remember it wouldn't just be the USA. Britain has carrier groups there and between, Guam, Japan, Australia and more the USA could keep up aerial hits on ships trying to land forever. The cost to China would be enormous. And it would give the USA the excuse it needs sanction wise to take trillions, confiscate land and more. With many other nations following suit.
I don't believe for a moment that China will take Taiwan by military means.

Taiwan is very dependent on mainland China for its economy; It has outsourced most of its manufacturing to Mainland China.

One day - likely in our lifetimes - Taiwan will agree to a peaceful reunification, with guarantees of some level of independence for say 99 years.
 

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The funny part about that was the orange turds followers had no idea that they were paying heavy taxes for.chinese goods. Orange turd made them believe it was China paying. It'd amazing how utterly stupid his believers are. They would literally belive anything he tells them no matter how stupid or obviously false it is.
He played his base for chumps and they were too dumb and gullible to see it. He was only interested in self aggrandizement and grifting wherever he could. Probably the biggest liar and most dishonest POTUS in history and too his base he never lied and only had the interest of the little guy at heart. It is really quite laughable and sad. Just look at the posts of his supporters on this board.
 

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Russia will invade Ukraine.

China has too much to lose right now. They are a few years off. All that Debt owed to them would defaulted and their economy would be hit far too hard.

The world is becoming more and more intertwined economically, and it far to complicated for all out war today.
 
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He played his base for chumps and they were too dumb and gullible to see it. He was only interested in self aggrandizement and grifting wherever he could. Probably the biggest liar and most dishonest POTUS in history and too his base he never lied and only had the interest of the little guy at heart. It is really quite laughable and sad. Just look at the posts of his supporters on this board.
Nailed it.
 

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I don't believe for a moment that China will take Taiwan by military means.

Taiwan is very dependent on mainland China for its economy; It has outsourced most of its manufacturing to Mainland China.

One day - likely in our lifetimes - Taiwan will agree to a peaceful reunification, with guarantees of some level of independence for say 99 years.
Same deal as Hong Kong. Worked out great for them.
 

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Same deal as Hong Kong. Worked out great for them.
Worked out great for China but not so great for those in HK who
loathe the communists as much as their cultural heritage. Not
a problem to PRC since they are going to be weeded out. I think
people in Taiwan will be easier to pacify.
 
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That article got hilarious pretty quick. I am shocked the author has the credentials he does.

1: One does not simply blast corridors through prepared positions. Even with modern guided ammunition.
2: Landing spec forces isn't as simple as he says either. Transport aircraft are slow and very vulnerable and modern AA can be easily hidden for the right moment.
3: Talking about motivation he is right about Taiwan but not so much about the PRC, those little emperors know if they die their family line goes with them, trust me, I know from personal experience how much it will fuck with their minds... the sort of fuck that living almost 30 years in Canada and pushing 60 does not fix.
4: Also his comment about tanks is a bit off. Distance was an issue in the Falklands, but his other two examples were from a long time ago, we have better ways of landing better tanks. Must you have them, no, but they can be very useful if you can land them.
 
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Worked out great for China but not so great for those in HK who
loathe the communists as much as their cultural heritage. Not
a problem to PRC since they are going to be weeded out. I think
people in Taiwan will be easier to pacify.
I think both you and Dan missed what I assume is the sarcasm font in Mugabe's post.
 
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mandrill

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Ya. Like they give a fuck. We seem to have left them off the hook on Covid. Nobody mentions them anymore on that one. When they killed 10,000 in Tiananmen square just for protesting. Uyghur gulags. Tibet. Mongolia. Life is cheap.
Putin isn't quaking in his boots about invading Ukraine. He tested out the reaction in Crimea. Nothingburger. He will be snug and cozy in one of his palaces, eating steak, or whatever he eats. Doesn't matter how many people are killed. Turned Chechenia into an apocalyptical waste land.
Maybe I am wrong. I mean nobody seriously thought Hitler would start a world war.
But difference....

No one gives a fuck about Chechnya. It's a Muslim fundamentalist hellscape which just happens to be close enough to the oil fields for Russia to get very agitated about the place.

And no one really believed that Crimea should really stay part of Ukraine. And sort of the same thing re Donbass. I mean, who is going to start WW3 over 2 areas which are Russian-speaking and want to remain Russian.

But the rest of Ukraine doesn't want to be Russian and we're talking Domino Chain here w Belarus and the Baltics. The more the little Slavic goblin gobbles, the hungrier he gets. Poland, are you listening?
 
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