Russia - Ukraine Peace Talks

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please don't place artificial limits on Israel's plans to return to their legitimate pre 1991 borders! Palestine, Syria and Lebanon belong to the great Israel even if they haven't realized it yet!
Fixed your post to put your moral's in the correct context.
Occupations are wrong every single time.
 

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OOOOOOHHHH, you caught a spell-check slip! Wow, what a victory! You must be feeling very accomplished. LMAO.

As for Franky and me, we’re not lockstep thinkers. We actually differ significantly on issues like Hamas and Israel. Just to be crystal clear: I’m firmly in Israel’s corner. I’d like to see Hamas dismantled, leader by leader, until there’s nothing left but dust.

Now, about Ukraine, the Democrats didn’t exactly rush to arm them with what they actually needed. Sure, they sent some outdated stockpiles, but what Ukraine really needed was cutting-edge weaponry and a clear green light to hit back hard. Biden should’ve delivered real firepower and told Zelenskyy: “Hit them where it hurts. Put the fear of God on Putin’s doorstep.”

That’s how deterrence works. Half-measures don’t cut it.
So, no reason for why the Dems didn't outfit them during the 3 years, but they would have done it if they had "one". And that's not a spelling mistake, that's the wrong word, so don't try to justify it as spelling, you probably thought you used the right word, since it sounds the same. Glad to see you using your higher education to its fullest.

Oh just because you and Franky are both delusional, doesn't mean you agree on everything
 

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So they should take all of Ukraine in what, another 100 years?
Its still less land then Russia held in 2022
I guess you're saying it isn't really a stalemate any longer, just that the movement is slow, which it is. But that isn't a stalemate, and you know it, just admit it.
 

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So, no reason for why the Dems didn't outfit them during the 3 years, but they would have done it if they had "one". And that's not a spelling mistake, that's the wrong word, so don't try to justify it as spelling, you probably thought you used the right word, since it sounds the same. Glad to see you using your higher education to its fullest.

Oh just because you and Franky are both delusional, doesn't mean you agree on everything

Yup, you got me, Mr. Roto-Rooter Linguist ,I have no idea there's a difference between one and won. Absolutely nailed it. Call the Pulitzer committee.

Since I apparently have to break everything down for you, yes, the Democrats did have a reason, in their view, for holding back, and it was the threat of nuclear escalation. You know, that minor detail where Putin might lose his mind and start flinging nukes. Personally, I doubt he would’ve gone that far — even madmen tend to prefer not being vaporized but alas, I wasn’t the one holding the launch codes.

And here’s a wild concept: I actually criticize my “team” when they screw up. It’s this thing called independent thought. You should give it a whirl sometime, though I understand blind loyalty is very on-brand for your side.
 

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Yup, you got me, Mr. Roto-Rooter Linguist ,I have no idea there's a difference between one and won. Absolutely nailed it. Call the Pulitzer committee.

Since I apparently have to break everything down for you, yes, the Democrats did have a reason, in their view, for holding back, and it was the threat of nuclear escalation. You know, that minor detail where Putin might lose his mind and start flinging nukes. Personally, I doubt he would’ve gone that far — even madmen tend to prefer not being vaporized but alas, I wasn’t the one holding the launch codes.

And here’s a wild concept: I actually criticize my “team” when they screw up. It’s this thing called independent thought. You should give it a whirl sometime, though I understand blind loyalty is very on-brand for your side.
So, you telling me the threat of nuclear war would have been gone if the Dems won, and therefore could have equiped Ukraine with their top equipment. I can't follow your logic, since doesn't seem anything would have changed. I am still searching for your independent thought, where is your evidence, please share. I would like to see your admission of Biden being demented and now, covering up his cancer, which he actually stated in 2022, but everyone thought it was his typical gaffe, but sometimes he speaks the truth when he shouldn't. And Carney is off to a very poor start, I am hoping he does better, but isn't clear he has it in him. I wonder if he is really going to have a budget this year or not, seems it is on for now... until it isn't.
 
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So, you're telling me the threat of nuclear war would have been gone if the Dems won, and therefore could have equipped Ukraine with their top equipment. I can't follow your logic, since it doesn't seem anything would have changed. I am still searching for your independent thought. Where is your evidence? Please share. I would like to see your admission of Biden being demented and now, covering up his cancer, which he actually stated in 2022, but everyone thought it was his typical gaffe, but sometimes he speaks the truth when he shouldn't. And Carney is off to a very poor start. I am hoping he does better, but it isn't clear he has it in him. I wonder if he is really going to have a budget this year or not, it seems it is on for now... until it isn't.

I never said the threat of nuclear war would magically vanish if the Democrats had won (note the correct usage). Try reading for comprehension before sprinting to your keyboard. I've had to fix up your paragraph somewhat because your grammar was atrocious. You've made my one for won error look like one ant on a moehill while you come running in with a hoard of cockroaches.

I did say and feel free to re-read it slowly this time, is that the Democrats hesitated to supply certain weapons systems out of concern that escalating too quickly might provoke a desperate nuclear response from Putin. You know, the guy who likes to rattle the nuclear saber every time things don't go his way? It’s called risk calculus, you may want to look into it before asking for “evidence” like this is a courtroom drama.

Speaking of evidence:

The U.S. has steadily escalated aid to Ukraine, from Javelins and HIMARS to eventually tanks and F-16s.
The Biden administration did delay sending long-range ATACMS for fear of escalation, which was publicly discussed in multiple briefings.
As for nuclear risk, even NATO allies urged caution early on. The U.S. wasn’t alone in walking that fine line.


Now, regarding Biden being “demented” and “covering up cancer” — that’s just your Fox News fan fiction talking. Biden mentioned he had skin cancer removed, which the White House confirmed in July 2021 and again in 2022. It wasn’t a gaffe, just a fact people like you distorted to make it sound sinister. If you're genuinely concerned about cognitive health, you might want to watch five minutes of Trump attempting to string together a coherent sentence. Fair's fair, right?

As for Mark Carney, the new Prime Minister of Canada superhero. Yes, he’s announced that the federal budget will be delivered in the autumn rather than immediately, citing the limited time since taking office and the need for a proper, comprehensive approach, which is refreshing. That’s not “refusing” to have a budget; it’s called not rushing a country’s finances for a media soundbite. Why you've brought Carney into this conversation is out of left field, but it doesn't surprise me coming from you.

Anyway, thanks for your concern about independent thought. I’ll continue calling out my side when warranted. You should try it, it’s surprisingly refreshing.

Anyway, I appreciate you trying to keep up. Maybe next time bring something more substantial than a grammar check and conspiracy theories.
 

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I never said the threat of nuclear war would magically vanish if the Democrats had won (note the correct usage). Try reading for comprehension before sprinting to your keyboard. I've had to fix up your paragraph somewhat because your grammar was atrocious. You've made my one for won error look like one ant on a moehill while you come running in with a hoard of cockroaches.

I did say and feel free to re-read it slowly this time, is that the Democrats hesitated to supply certain weapons systems out of concern that escalating too quickly might provoke a desperate nuclear response from Putin. You know, the guy who likes to rattle the nuclear saber every time things don't go his way? It’s called risk calculus, you may want to look into it before asking for “evidence” like this is a courtroom drama.

Speaking of evidence:

The U.S. has steadily escalated aid to Ukraine, from Javelins and HIMARS to eventually tanks and F-16s.
The Biden administration did delay sending long-range ATACMS for fear of escalation, which was publicly discussed in multiple briefings.
As for nuclear risk, even NATO allies urged caution early on. The U.S. wasn’t alone in walking that fine line.


Now, regarding Biden being “demented” and “covering up cancer” — that’s just your Fox News fan fiction talking. Biden mentioned he had skin cancer removed, which the White House confirmed in July 2021 and again in 2022. It wasn’t a gaffe, just a fact people like you distorted to make it sound sinister. If you're genuinely concerned about cognitive health, you might want to watch five minutes of Trump attempting to string together a coherent sentence. Fair's fair, right?

As for Mark Carney, the new Prime Minister of Canada superhero. Yes, he’s announced that the federal budget will be delivered in the autumn rather than immediately, citing the limited time since taking office and the need for a proper, comprehensive approach, which is refreshing. That’s not “refusing” to have a budget; it’s called not rushing a country’s finances for a media soundbite. Why you've brought Carney into this conversation is out of left field, but it doesn't surprise me coming from you.

Anyway, thanks for your concern about independent thought. I’ll continue calling out my side when warranted. You should try it, it’s surprisingly refreshing.

Anyway, I appreciate you trying to keep up. Maybe next time bring something more substantial than a grammar check and conspiracy theories.
Wow, just wow. You might be able to get a job with CNN as you really seem to be ignore facts and see and say what you think should have happened not what really happened.

As to fixing my grammar, I think we can debate that, such as where a comma works and where a period is needed. You think you fixed those grammar issues, which really weren't an issue, except in your mind.

Comparing Biden's cognitive deficiencies to Trump is a joke. Biden was hidden, Trump in 4 months has been extremely visible and has spoken already 10 times more than Biden did during his full term (this is when Biden was allowed to speak). Trump talks alot and says some stupid things, but to try and say that shows deficiencies in Trump's cognitive capabilities is a ridiculous attempt on your part to defend Biden. Maybe read the new book that Jake Tapper has put out and see how bad it really was, although Tapper tried to defend Biden until recently.

As to your buddy Carney, initially he wasn't going to put a budget out this year at all, only a fall update, but relented when he got such a hard time, and here you are trying to indicate it is just a delay and not rushing as if he all along was going to put out a budget. You need to keep up with the news. They can't figure out whether they want housing prices to go down and whether they want pipelines. Guess it depends on what side of the bed Carney and his cabinet members get out of each day. Carney gets testy every time a journalist asks him a tough question, can't wait until he gets into the house and has to deal with his opponents.

And finally, with regards to Ukraine, you really think the Dems and Kamala would have made things better, they should have settled things in 2022 when the agreement was on the table, and Johnson and Biden told Zelensky not to agree to it. I am sure he wished he had, since the deal is going to be a lot worse and no Ukraine was never going to win the war, that's just your delusional side showing up. It is a meat grinder, I am sure Russia thought it was going to be easier, but they are grinding up Ukraine slowly. Anyone that doesn't want the war stopped is just a lunatic, war is awful and so many unnecessary deaths. Trump is at least trying to end things, whereas the warmongers around Biden just wanted wars to continue.

Cheers, and thanks for playing, it was fun!
 

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Recent vids shown on CNN show surrendering Ukrainian soldiers lying face down being shot in the head one by one by their captors. This one is less graphic.

 

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Comparing Biden's cognitive deficiencies to Trump is a joke. Biden was hidden, Trump in 4 months has been extremely visible and has spoken already 10 times more than Biden did during his full term (this is when Biden was allowed to speak). Trump talks alot and says some stupid things, but to try and say that shows deficiencies in Trump's cognitive capabilities is a ridiculous attempt on your part to defend Biden.



 

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The only reason there is a focus on a peace deal at all is Trump, Zelinski would much rather be fund raising and Europe would rather be quietly buying energy from Russia while loaning peanuts to Ukraine. The grift is up.
 
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Yes, clearly comparable examples, but hey give it you best shot, you obviously think you have it nailed. Even Tapper and Scarborough have come to admit that Biden was clearly demented, no such view of Trump, but you can be on an island if that works for you, who cares.
 
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Russia is holding less land than in 2022 and trying to retake land they took then.
Stalemate
Not really sure where the 2022 maps come from, I think they considered Russia to have been holding land where they had one tank, a jeep and half a dozen soldiers. But I have seen those maps and you aren't wrong on the statement. That said, in reality, you need to look at the maps when Russia backed up and started to solidify the land that they were holding and go from there, that is much more realistic. And btw, another 35 sq km yesterday and 400 sq km this month taken by Russia. Yes, that is truly a stalemate. 🤡🤡
 

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Putin wanted as much of Ukraine territory as he can get....He was further emboldened by the leadership he saw in the US (Biden). He also knew those 185B grift that Zelensky took isn't entirely going to Ukraine forces....Zelensky compromised as much of the population there won't be enough to oppose him...then let foreign aid to flow and make him a hero, and let NATO/US to intervene from Russia going further up his ass... Ukraine is developing backwards with what Putin and Zelensky did...
 

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Even Tapper and Scarborough have come to admit that Biden was clearly demented, no such view of Trump, but you can be on an island if that works for you, who cares.
there’s a also bit of a view that Trump is a Russian asset, although Trump has never officially confirmed it except he sucked Putin’s duck in public on numerous occasions
 

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there’s a also bit of a view that Trump is a Russian asset, although Trump has never officially confirmed it except he sucked Putin’s duck in public on numerous occasions
Can you show me that evidence? I am sure you have it. But guess you bought into the Russia, Russia hoax, hook, line and sinker. I guess you prefer sniffing Joe, the Tara Reade molester.
 

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Wow, just wow. You might be able to get a job with CNN as you really seem to be ignore facts and see and say what you think should have happened not what really happened.

As to fixing my grammar, I think we can debate that, such as where a comma works and where a period is needed. You think you fixed those grammar issues, which really weren't an issue, except in your mind.

Comparing Biden's cognitive deficiencies to Trump is a joke. Biden was hidden, Trump in 4 months has been extremely visible and has spoken already 10 times more than Biden did during his full term (this is when Biden was allowed to speak). Trump talks alot and says some stupid things, but to try and say that shows deficiencies in Trump's cognitive capabilities is a ridiculous attempt on your part to defend Biden. Maybe read the new book that Jake Tapper has put out and see how bad it really was, although Tapper tried to defend Biden until recently.

As to your buddy Carney, initially he wasn't going to put a budget out this year at all, only a fall update, but relented when he got such a hard time, and here you are trying to indicate it is just a delay and not rushing as if he all along was going to put out a budget. You need to keep up with the news. They can't figure out whether they want housing prices to go down and whether they want pipelines. Guess it depends on what side of the bed Carney and his cabinet members get out of each day. Carney gets testy every time a journalist asks him a tough question, can't wait until he gets into the house and has to deal with his opponents.

And finally, with regards to Ukraine, you really think the Dems and Kamala would have made things better, they should have settled things in 2022 when the agreement was on the table, and Johnson and Biden told Zelensky not to agree to it. I am sure he wished he had, since the deal is going to be a lot worse and no Ukraine was never going to win the war, that's just your delusional side showing up. It is a meat grinder, I am sure Russia thought it was going to be easier, but they are grinding up Ukraine slowly. Anyone that doesn't want the war stopped is just a lunatic, war is awful and so many unnecessary deaths. Trump is at least trying to end things, whereas the warmongers around Biden just wanted wars to continue.

Cheers, and thanks for playing, it was fun!

Wow, just wow. You’ve packed more misinformation into one post than a late-night infomercial. Let’s unpack.

First off, comparing CNN employment standards to this rant is an insult to journalism everywhere. But let’s move past that , grammar debates aside, if you’re suggesting sentence fragments and comma splices are "up for debate," I guess rules are optional now. Next time I drive, I’ll decide whether red lights are just a suggestion.

Now, to the Biden vs. Trump cognitive Olympics, Biden may speak less, sure. That’s called “discipline” in politics. Trump’s verbal diarrhea doesn’t mean mental sharpness; if it did, your uncle’s Facebook rants would qualify him for the Nobel Prize. Speaking more isn’t the same as making sense. And if we’re judging cognition by how many times someone repeats “many people are saying,” then yes, Trump’s a genius.

Ah yes, Jake Tapper’s book, the new litmus test for political facts. Quoting Tapper when convenient but then ignoring every other mainstream source is peak selective reasoning. Bonus points for style.

As for Carney and the budget, it’s almost like... governing is complex and timing is strategic. Shocking, I know. But please, go off about how indecisiveness over housing policy and pipelines is somehow new. Because every government ever has made decisions in perfect harmony, right?

Now, Ukraine, yes, clearly the best strategy for peace is letting a dictator carve up countries unchecked. Very stable genius logic there. And Trump “trying to end things”? By doing what, praising Putin’s “savvy” while ghosting NATO and treating diplomacy like a casino deal? Brilliant.

In summary, thanks for the stream-of-consciousness fan fiction. It was entertaining, like watching someone angrily shake a Magic 8-Ball and call it foreign policy analysis.

Cheers and salutations, and thanks for the performance. Truly, a masterclass in confident twat MAGA confusion.
 
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