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xyphy

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I've just never understood why people take such offense at someone wanting to pass them. The left lane hog is more dangerous than the person speeding, they force other cars to pass in the right, which is inherently more dangerous.
 
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Travel less than posted speed under slick conditions. It will keep you alive.
AS long as you keep it to the far right or middle lane, there will still be drivers wanting to go faster and its much safer to allow them to pass in the left lane.
 
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Also, people that take the HoT lane and go slow. WHY?? just stay in the far right lane. If there are more than 3 cars behind you, move over!!
 

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Anyone who has gone to driving school has been taught some of these basic and simple defensive driving techniques and they include what he posted.

It may not be illegal to pass on the right but for flow, safety and consistency, passing on the left is preferred.
Rules of the Road says to me the “unwritten rules”. As in the slang terminology.
Jenesis, you are a sweetheart even though we never knowingly met.

For those who are into semantics, I could call it "safe driving practices" instead of "rules of the road".

For those who want to know, I slowed down to make a right turn at an intersection and some guy passed me on the right by actually intruding into part of the intersection.
 
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I actually don’t drive in the “fast” lane. I drive in the Center lane and move either right or left accordingly depending on if I am exiting or passing.

I barely drive on the 401 anymore at all. I am normally single lane highways. Which is why my pet peeve is those who drive 75 because they are afraid to go over 80. It creates a line of cars that just wait until their passing moment and has a greater risk of causing accidents.

And for the record, I leave 1-2 cars depending on weather. I stand by 3 being excessive, unless in like white-out conditions. There is no need for there to be room for three cars between me and the driver ahead, on a sunny day when we are going 85 on dry straight roads.
 

Perry Mason

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Here
FYI:

"The two-second rule is a rule of thumb by which a driver may maintain a safe trailing distance at any speed.[1][2] The rule is that a driver should ideally stay at least two seconds behind any vehicle that is directly in front of his or her vehicle."

At 85kph you travel 77.5 feet per second. 2 seconds = 155 feet.

Average car length is 14.5 feet.

Do the math...

Perry
 

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Slower traffic keep right and/or left line for passing only. Lots of idiots driving 110 in left line on highway with right line going at the same speed and think it is OK.
If someone passing you on the right, it means you are going too slow in the left line :)
unless its the HOV lane, that is not a left lane.
 

xyphy

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unless its the HOV lane, that is not a left lane.
agreed, but you still have people deciding to go 100-110 in the HOV lane with cars piling up behind. if they go that slow they should just stay in the right lane, OR go with the flow of traffic and speed it up
 

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Also, people that take the HoT lane and go slow. WHY?? just stay in the far right lane. If there are more than 3 cars behind you, move over!!
Its illegal to lane change from the HOV lane
So yeah sucks to be a speeder

Well
Speeding is illegal too so

agreed, but you still have people deciding to go 100-110 in the HOV lane with cars piling up behind. if they go that slow they should just stay in the right lane, OR go with the flow of traffic and speed it up
lol
So by your mindset a person who does not wish to go 110+ must go 45 in the middle lane?

My answer to that is a big f u
 

xyphy

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Its illegal to lane change from the HOV lane
So yeah sucks to be a speeder

Well
Speeding is illegal too so


lol
So by your mindset a person who does not wish to go 110+ must go 45 in the middle lane?

My answer to that is a big f u
FU is a bit harsh, my point is that you CAN go in and out of the HOV at the appropriately marked lines, and my mindset is that if you want to go in the HOV lane, go the effing speed limit, not 100, not 95. go 110 or if the other cars are going 120, go 120. so a BIG F U right back atcha. (you're mindset is what causes accidents)
 

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FU is a bit harsh, my point is that you CAN go in and out of the HOV at the appropriately marked lines, and my mindset is that if you want to go in the HOV lane, go the effing speed limit, not 100, not 95. go 110 or if the other cars are going 120, go 120. so a BIG F U right back atcha. (you're mindset is what causes accidents)
Fantasyland thinks speeding is safer
Esp with aggressive tailgating assholes doing illegal lane changes in heavy traffic trying to get around a slower moving vehicle

Accidents are reported statistically
Go look how many speed+ is a factor vs speed-
 

xyphy

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Fantasyland thinks speeding is safer
Esp with aggressive tailgating assholes doing illegal lane changes in heavy traffic trying to get around a slower moving vehicle

Accidents are reported statistically
Go look how many speed+ is a factor vs speed-
If the other non HoT lanes are going 45, nobody should be going 100+ and passing, that's a disaster just waiting to happen btw, if someone pulls in front of you going that speed, everyone is toast. so, Yes I do agree that if the other lanes are not moving, neither should you be speeding. My original point, to clarify, is that if you want to drive your vehicle slower, just do it in the far right lanes and have situational awareness in regards to other motor vehicles. The vehicle driving slower and not allowing faster cars to pass is just as accountable. I never disputed that speed kills, but I am arguing that slower moving vehicles Will cause more accidents when not obeying the rules of the road. Also, there would be less tailgaters if non aggressive slow moving morons would not sit in the far left lane going the speed limit or under.
 

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Yes it is. From Ontario Highway Traffic Act

Slow vehicles to travel on right side
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(1) Any vehicle travelling upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at that time and place shall, where practicable, be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 147 (1).
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I never disputed that speed kills, .
No
Stupidity
ignorance
inexperience..kills
speed is just the result of 1 or more of the others!
 
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xyphy

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No
Stupidity
ignorance
inexperience..kills
speed is just the result of 1 or more of the others!
Now we're getting somewhere. Lol. Speed will make it more likely that you will die in the accident, but it's not actually the cause of the accidents, it's usually because of an improper lane change, sudden braking with people following too close behind, losing control of a vehicle from weather conditions, inexperience or being cut off. most of these accidents are generally caused by people going too slow, not paying attention or not "working" with other drivers to keep the flow.
 

rhuarc29

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Yes it is. From Ontario Highway Traffic Act

Slow vehicles to travel on right side
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(1) Any vehicle travelling upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at that time and place shall, where practicable, be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 147 (1).
Yes, I know. Did you read the rest of my sentence?
 
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rhuarc29

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I don’t understand your last comment however.

How or what is Darts doing that make passing on the left impossible?
Driving in the left lane, when he could easily move to the right for faster traffic. Darts has regularly made comments like this in the past. We know his position.
 

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FYI:

"The two-second rule is a rule of thumb by which a driver may maintain a safe trailing distance at any speed.[1][2] The rule is that a driver should ideally stay at least two seconds behind any vehicle that is directly in front of his or her vehicle."

At 85kph you travel 77.5 feet per second. 2 seconds = 155 feet.

Average car length is 14.5 feet.

Do the math...

Perry
Canada is 3 second rule
Still in many driver handbooks

I think US was 2 second
 
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