Royal Prank Call Nurse 'Commits Suicide'
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ever since the trayvon martin case I really realized the media is completely full of it. I initially fell for that one as well
I don't think the vast of majority members on this board care one way or the other about the monarchy. It's not a question of monarchy lovers, it's all about a human life lost and still to be determined what instigated, if anything, her death. There might well be no connection with her death and the prank, but the timing of the two events is so close people are judging based on media reports.
There actually was a statement from the hospital that she was getting counselling due to the impact of the call.
Now I don't think they should be either charged or sued (I don't think the outcome is reasonably forseeable) but there is evidence of a causal connection and I would never say they did nothing wrong.
And personally I don't think the monarchy issue has anything to do with it. I would feel the same way if it was Sean Connory, or JK Rawlings or any number of non-royals.
I bet they are scrambling. If anything, it is the hospital that bears the blame for this. She fell victim to a prank--OK. Pranks are bad--well, but we don't really think so. We all did laugh at it (at least, before it turned tragic we all did). Sure, it was fraud, but only in the most technical sense of that word. It was, mostly, all in good fun.
How the hospital reacted to the prank is likely the biggest factor in her decision to take her own life. If she faced career ending reprimands and ostracism in her workplace that would likely be the largest factor.
Was she diverted to counselling because they no longer trusted her to be on the floor caring for patients? Was the counselling actually instruction on privacy law and why didn't she do a better job? Was it supportive counselling, or was it part of some remediation action, on other words, a highly negative element of her situation?
Amazing the conclusions you can jump to without knowing any facts.
The comments indicate it was supportive counselling and the hospital made very public statements supporting their staff after the event.
But I guess you speculate that behind closed doors they were being evil and cruel...
I feel as bad for this girl, her family and her friends as the next person...BUT...
If the British are so concerned about their Royals...why was this situation allowed to exist in the first place? Why did they put an obviously ill-trained and poorly prepared person in a position of answering the phone? Cutbacks? Let's go back to the part where the British are so concerned about their Royals...
The call was intended to be in good fun, to see if they could actually get through - and they didn't expect to apparently. There is no way they could forsee this as a result of the call, in fact, I don't believe this call has been proven to exclusively be the reason fo rthe suicide.
The typical suspects in this thread are al ready to lawyer up and speculate on the situation without having all the facts...as usual.
Bottom line, this is a joke that ended badly, however, the callers had no way of knowing who would be on the phone or if they would even get through. Seems to me they are not the actual issue, although they may be the catalyst. The actual issue is why this woman was placed in a position to answer the call at all.
If the British are so concerned about their Royals...why was this situation allowed to exist in the first place? Why did they put an obviously ill-trained and poorly prepared person in a position of answering the phone? Cutbacks? Let's go back to the part where the British are so concerned about their Royals...
The call was intended to be in good fun, to see if they could actually get through - and they didn't expect to apparently. There is no way they could forsee this as a result of the call, in fact, I don't believe this call has been proven to exclusively be the reason fo rthe suicide.
The typical suspects in this thread are al ready to lawyer up and speculate on the situation without having all the facts...as usual.
Bottom line, this is a joke that ended badly, however, the callers had no way of knowing who would be on the phone or if they would even get through. Seems to me they are not the actual issue, although they may be the catalyst. The actual issue is why this woman was placed in a position to answer the call at all.
Reading though the story, it's not the first time the station has been in hot water--
That station did much, much worse when it hooked up a 14 year old girl to a lie detector and started letting the mother grill the daughter about her sexual history live on the air, demanding to know whether she had ever had sex, with the intent of humiliating her on the air for her bad behavior. It turned out the girl had been raped.
That station did much, much worse when it hooked up a 14 year old girl to a lie detector and started letting the mother grill the daughter about her sexual history live on the air, demanding to know whether she had ever had sex, with the intent of humiliating her on the air for her bad behavior. It turned out the girl had been raped.
Not at all true.
The only person who can speak to how well received it was by the lady in question is dead.
Every other person who was involved in the counselling can speak to how supportive it was.
All of which is a far cry from your bizarre decision to try and blame the hospital.
So it's let's blame the victim, riiiiight. So if you throw a smoke bomb at someone's front door and they run out of the house and break a leg, they're at fault? Or you toss a cigarette butt in a car window and the driver swerves off the road and crashes, it's the drivers fault? You sound like the defenders of the bullies of that young girl who committed suicide not long ago, saying they didn't mean for her to commit suicide.
Calm down and read it again drama queen. Clearly reading and comprehension are not your strong suits. I did not blame the victim, I blame whoever it was that allowed her to be put into a situation she was clearly unable to manage. Not sure if that was the hospital or the security detail assigned but someone, not the victim, fucked up.
At the end of the day the people who failed her were the ones around her, in that hospital, providing "supportive" disciplinary action, er, I mean counselling.
On the other hand I don't understand why 2dayFM was allowed to keep its operating license after hooking up a 14 year old girl to a lie detector and grilling her about her sexual history on the air. Even if the poor girl hadn't turned out to be a rape victim, that is just plain outright bullying.
She was a trained nurse working the phones, I'd say she was over qualified to work a switchboard, considering many hospitals in TO use volunteers to work the hospital switchboards. They stand out by wearing green vests. She was conned into forwarding a call to the care nurse. She obviously felt responsible and couldn't handle the shame and ended it sadly. No drama queen here.
So your secret sources of information are better?
You been on the phone with the hospital over there?
If your argument is "all media is full of shit" that means that all your comments are based on....
It is funny how you act like your speculations are facts. Must be challenging to navigate the real world.
Wow are you thick. My point is that she never should have been working the phones and whoever put her there was wrong. I'm not sure how to make that any clearer to you. The fact that she was trained as a nurse, and in your opinion over qualified to work a switchboard, is not the point...which you missed...again. Interesting thought that you seem to be able to identify how she felt responsibility and shame. Big drama queen. Huge. Epic.
Maybe it's time for the Brits to get rid of the monarchy since they seem incabable of protecting it from a joke on the phone.
The shock-jocks cleared the prank call with their station lawyers before they aired it. The call taker (for whatever reason) failed to follow hospital protocol followed by the ensuing shit-storm that ending in her tragic death. But you can't blame the talk show hosts, it was just a prank. Want to blame someone, try the media who perpetuate an insane obsession people with the royal family. They make it seem as though Kate was the first person to ever become pregnant.
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