Hopefully for you they honour their warranty.
Written or not doesn't mean shit if they choose not to warranty it for any number of reasons in the future. Ask me how I know.
Roofing
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Written or not doesn't mean shit if they choose not to warranty it for any number of reasons in the future. Ask me how I know.
I have never heard about anybody collecting on a roofing "warranty". The roofers probably incorporate every year, and the shingles warranty is laughable. A 30 year shingle will last 10 years, and they will send you a few shingles if you insist.Hopefully for you they honour their warranty.
Written or not doesn't mean shit if they choose not to warranty it for any number of reasons in the future. Ask me how I know.
mmmmmmm, No.
Putting a new roof over top an old roof is always a bad idea and is false economy. It will cost you far more in the long run.
1. New shingles cannot sit flat no matter what and thus cannot seal down properly making them susceptible to wind damage.
2. Increased dead load on the structure. Not to be discounted.
3. You cannot replace flashing and the boots around plumbing vents properly
4. You cannot replace the ice and water shield (if you're lucky and have Ice and water shield. Some cheap jobs just flip the starter course, or install tar paper.)
5. A pound over will last about half as long as a proper job.
Anyone who tells you you can get away with a pound over is either uninformed, or trying to rip you off.
Fuck, my mom got a good price for her redone roof. Once they returned to replace shingles blown away in a wind storm; then returned recently for a leak that's gotten in her living room (after interior reno & decorating). Damn it, I doubt it they used ice and water shield. Just tar paper. It doesn't seem like he resolved the leak issue.
Getting a good price doesn't mean you have good value.
They returned for my mom because my uncle is a renovator and uses them for repeat business. However, cheap contractors might not be around in year 5 or so if you have a warrantable repair. That's the problem with fly-by-nighters or those without a long-standing reputation.I have never heard about anybody collecting on a roofing "warranty". The roofers probably incorporate every year, and the shingles warranty is laughable. A 30 year shingle will last 10 years, and they will send you a few shingles if you insist.
Dufferin Roofing is expensive but they've been around for years and won't go away so soon, it seems (just as an example).
Written is better than nothing. At least you have a case to fight it in court, but that's a costly exercise too and might be impractical for small issues.Hopefully for you they honour their warranty.
Written or not doesn't mean shit if they choose not to warranty it for any number of reasons in the future. Ask me how I know.
You get what you pay for, but you need to know what you're paying for.
If you want a solid house, you need t hire someone really skilled at designing solid homes (an Architect and an Engineer) and you need to pay for that design.
Then you need to find a good contractor who can build that design properly.
And if you don't have the requisite knowledge to oversee the construction, then you need to go back to that Engineer you hired in the design phase and hire him again to supervise the work at least on a part time basis.
Last, and most importantly, you need to pay for it all and it's not fucking cheap. Not by a long shot.
If you want a solid house, you need to build way over and above code. From the foundations (poured 12" thick with reinforcing steel with 35 MPA air entrained concrete) to the foundation walls (Fuck block, block is for idiots) that are 12" thick and reinforced in both directions doweled into the footings with 35 MPA air entrained concrete poured into forms made from formply (not the prefabricated metal shit). And then everything else from there.
You will add 25 to 30 percent to the cost of construction if you want to do it right. But few people understand that and make their selections based on price and not quality.
My dad built his own house using the really big foundation blocks (I'm sure it would've been reinforced concrete foundations if he built it now) back in the day.
Now I've heard of the insulated forms (end up with concrete walls with insulation within - ICF I think), which aren't cheap.
That's fairly standard these days, putting an underlay over the entire roof. Eg Certainteed Diamond Deck as an example (there are cheaper versions.) These underlays can take nails and still be waterproof, but I don't think they are air permeable. I recall putting the right soffit and roof vents is even more important with the full underlay. I like the underlay, as it can protect the roof during any delays in the roofing job, and gives some extra protection if i lose shingles later in the life of the roof.For an extra 1K, they put a stiff breathable membrane underneath the shingles. Air flows out but water can't penetrate. Just like Goretex. Roof is the one thing not to cut corners.
There's a big trend towards extended, lengthy shingle warranties from the manufacturers. It is buried into the cost if you go for it, but I understand that it is a tangible line item, and i believe they get commission on selling the warranty. I don't bother, just take the standard warranty and see how long they last. There have been a number of class actions against the shingle manufacturers, as certain shingles have been wearing out prematurely. Hopefully the latest generation of shingles are better.
Agreed.I have never heard about anybody collecting on a roofing "warranty". The roofers probably incorporate every year, and the shingles warranty is laughable. A 30 year shingle will last 10 years, and they will send you a few shingles if you insist.
If you read the fine print on any of the shingle manufacturers, they are all "pro-rated" to hell. After 5 years, they might send you a bundle of new shingles if you're lucky. And the warranty never covers labour.
The Contractor who installed them won't be too eager to give you a free roof either.
All you can do is buy the best shingles you can afford and hire a good guy to do the work. Finding a good guy is hard to do.
On older houses in Toronto, you don't have plywood roof sheathing, you have the old 3/4" wide planks. Asphalt shingles never last as long on the old roof planks because of the gaps between the planks where heat escapes, and you don't have full support. (Or so I've been told.)
