Roofing
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Peephole? I'd check for periscope from the roof. The roofers may be trying to get a peek!
Unfortunately houses in canada are made of wood and drywall. They are as sturdy as a paper mache house.
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You get what you pay for, maybe you live in a low rent district and the housing is low quality there.
Older houses are usually more solidly built. Ever noticed how whenever there is a storm the roofs come off the newer and not the older houses? Also, the newly built condos are really shoddy.
BTW: Are the roofers removing the existing shingles or simply overlaying the new ones on top? Also, what is the rated life expectancy of the new shingles?
They removed the old shingles. They said the new ones should last a really long time - they're Timberline shingles.
Removing the old shingles is a very noisy and messy job but the proper way to install new shingles as recommended by JTK. I believe that some shingles are advertised as good for 35 years (hope I last that long).
No, that;s pretty much every house in canada. You get the same garbage construction whether you pay 400k or 1 million in this country.
You can build a house of concrete a metre thick if you want, no-one is stopping you. You just need to pay for it.
You get what you pay for.
I live in a house that is 100 years old.
I can honestly say that a modern well built house would be superior in most respects to my house. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's stronger, or better.
In Toronto they used to build houses out of brick, i.e. structural brick. You had an inner and an outer wythe of brick that would be tied together with a bonding course. Floor joists keyed into the inner brick whthe and roofs sat on top of the masonry wall. In order to hold down the roof, they would literally nail a 1 x 8 plank to the brick and then nail the roof to that. I can assure you that something like that would never fly today.
Todays' modern houses are stick framed and then if there is brick, it is just a veneer. Roofs sit on the timber framing and are secured down by hurricane clips and nails.
The one major advantage to older homes is that they are drafty and therefore inherently healthy. No mold.
But structurally?
If built properly, a modern house is the way to go.
You get what you pay for, but you need to know what you're paying for.
If you want a solid house, you need t hire someone really skilled at designing solid homes (an Architect and an Engineer) and you need to pay for that design.
Then you need to find a good contractor who can build that design properly.
And if you don't have the requisite knowledge to oversee the construction, then you need to go back to that Engineer you hired in the design phase and hire him again to supervise the work at least on a part time basis.
Last, and most importantly, you need to pay for it all and it's not fucking cheap. Not by a long shot.
If you want a solid house, you need to build way over and above code. From the foundations (poured 12" thick with reinforcing steel with 35 MPA air entrained concrete) to the foundation walls (Fuck block, block is for idiots) that are 12" thick and reinforced in both directions doweled into the footings with 35 MPA air entrained concrete poured into forms made from formply (not the prefabricated metal shit). And then everything else from there.
You will add 25 to 30 percent to the cost of construction if you want to do it right. But few people understand that and make their selections based on price and not quality.
The "little holes" likely aren't holes. Most likely, it's drywall or plaster that has popped off the area over a drywall screw. I just re-did the roof on my 130 year old house, so the entire thing was recovered with new plywood. I had to sign a release with both the roofer and insulator that pointed out a few things that could happen, including this.
In my case I only noticed one, in a white ceiling, so a 2 minute touch up was all that was required. If you are getting a lot of them, it's more a reflection of the quality of your home construction than it is of the roofers. It's not a big deal unless it happens in a painted area and you don't have any paint available to touch it up!
In my case I only noticed one, in a white ceiling, so a 2 minute touch up was all that was required. If you are getting a lot of them, it's more a reflection of the quality of your home construction than it is of the roofers. It's not a big deal unless it happens in a painted area and you don't have any paint available to touch it up!
I think i'd better come over and inspect your holes, er nail pops. If you would like to do greek that would be ok too:eyebrows:It is an old house that my grandpa bought in the 1940's.Apparently the plaster came off exposing the screw head holes or something like that. It's all Greek to me!
Roofers
I had my roof done reshingled and the attitude of these guys are get paid and outta there fast as you can attitude .....not my house boom not gently putting shingle bundles down.....and as a retired tradesman I double checked the job and had them back twice to fix imperfections. The average homeowner would not know what to look for in a roof repair
Whether your house was built a hundred years ago or yesterday, no one builds a roof the way they build a floor. Roofs are designed to hold up under wind rain and snow, that put steady pressure all over the roof's surface at once. Because it's a practical way to build them, they're also designed to hold up the guys doing the work. But unlike your floor, no one much cares if that sort of tromping around flexes the surface, or booms like a drum. Shingles are inherently flexy. It's scary, but safe enough (if they're harnessed) and will be over soon.
There may well be a bit of flex/vibration that transmits from the roof through the timbers to the walls and ceiling, and it might be enough to open a crack or two, especially in an old house with real plaster not drywall. The round holes you noticed in the wall are likely caused by that flex popping the skim coat of plaster off the screws holding drywall to the structure. It's only an aesthetic worry, unless there's a whole lot of plaster damage, or it's showing a pattern that follows the structure behind it, and indicates a weakness in it. A tube of Polyfilla™ from the hardware store should fix it. But it's always worth a conversation with the roofers, who should be aiming for no damage, and who should have an eye for underlying structural issues (especially ones that let them off the hook), and you might just find you've lucked into the A-class team that'll fix it.
There may well be a bit of flex/vibration that transmits from the roof through the timbers to the walls and ceiling, and it might be enough to open a crack or two, especially in an old house with real plaster not drywall. The round holes you noticed in the wall are likely caused by that flex popping the skim coat of plaster off the screws holding drywall to the structure. It's only an aesthetic worry, unless there's a whole lot of plaster damage, or it's showing a pattern that follows the structure behind it, and indicates a weakness in it. A tube of Polyfilla™ from the hardware store should fix it. But it's always worth a conversation with the roofers, who should be aiming for no damage, and who should have an eye for underlying structural issues (especially ones that let them off the hook), and you might just find you've lucked into the A-class team that'll fix it.
