Rob Ford's next Scandal - Sexual Harrassment

[GameBoy27]

Consider the source. Has the Star ever had anything good to say about Ford?

Oddly enough they have. http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2012/11/07/football_and_all_mayor_rob_fords_attendance_better_than_lateterm_david_millers.html

Although many Ford detractors will have you believe he's never at work and always coaching football. His voting record proves otherwise. In this day and age with smartphones etc. one can conduct business away from the office. It's widely known that he is available (even gives out his home phone number) up until midnight 7 days a week.

Football and all, Mayor Rob Ford’s attendance better than late-term David Miller’s
Mayor Rob Ford's football-related absences make headlines, but he has a better council attendance record than Miller and 21 current councillors.

Miller’s attendance record cannot be perfectly compared with Ford’s: until Ford’s mayoralty, thousands of individual votes were not recorded in the official meeting minutes, and data for Miller only covers his final two years in office; the Ford data covers his first two.

But of the 1,382 votes in 2009 and 2010 that were recorded, Miller missed 41.8 per cent, close to three times the percentage missed by Ford this term to date.

What the hell was Miller doing???

Ford's the absentee Mayor? Go ahead, spin that one!

 

[fuji]

The Red Star?

Yup. They still have probably the best news team in Canada. Their editorial bias didn't stop then from breaking the eHealth and ORNGE stories. Unlike say the National Post which gutted its investigative dept and hired cheaper "columnists" instead the Star is still primarily about the news.

Their editorials are clearly strongly biased, but editorials are supposed to be.

 

[JackBurton]

Wow, I didn't think our illiteracy rate was that high !

Best explanation yet of fords support. Bravo good sir

 

[Butler1000]

Best explanation yet of fords support. Bravo good sir

Great. You guys keep on with the superficial judgements, jokes about his physical appearance. Leave the adults to discuss city finances and other things I'm sure you find boring. Don't forget to pick up your latest copy of people magazine to get the rest of the news you find important.

 

[groggy]

Although many Ford detractors will have you believe he's never at work and always coaching football. His voting record proves otherwise. In this day and age with smartphones etc. one can conduct business away from the office. It's widely known that he is available (even gives out his home phone number) up until midnight 7 days a week.

Ford's attendance record is one thing, certainly there were reports of him hardly being there. But the phone call thing is a myth these days. You might be able to get through to talk to him but according to the records its only lobbyists who get there way at city hall now. The little guy is shut out in Ford's world.

 

[Rockslinger]

Has the Star ever had anything good to say about Ford?

Didn't the Star send a reporter out to peer over Ford's backyard fence?

 

[cc12rye]

Ford is an idiot for a lot of reasons (as we all know), but he's not bankrupting the city.

Miller on the other hand was a complete FUCKING IDIOT, far worse than Ford could ever be. Sure, David Miller would never grab some chicks ass at a party. Instead, he increased spending from roughly 6.5 billion to 9.5 billion in 7 years and hired thousands of unionized workers and caved into the unions during the great strike.

Which is worse?

I personally saw Miller with a few drinks in him and one in hand slide up to a small group of 20 something women in a pub and was very touchie feelie. After about 10 minutes, he left. I was with a different group but knew one of them and she told me later that the close proximity and touching was icky. Hot 20 something women get that every minute so it's not something they call the police or facebook about.

 

[Butler1000]

Ford's attendance record is one thing, certainly there were reports of him hardly being there. But the phone call thing is a myth these days. You might be able to get through to talk to him but according to the records its only lobbyists who get there way at city hall now. The little guy is shut out in Ford's world.

Actually the Star did a piece the other day about how lobbtists have taken over a lot at city hall. The Mayor was #4 on the list. #2? Adam Vaughn! The great majority of them are for condo developers looking for zoning changes in local wards. Who do you think is getting the benefits then. The Mayor or the local downtown councillors "improvement funds". I'm on my phone or I'd supply the link for those who need it. I believe it was monday in the GTA section.

 

[Celticman]

Ford is an idiot for a lot of reasons (as we all know), but he's not bankrupting the city.

Miller on the other hand was a complete FUCKING IDIOT, far worse than Ford could ever be. Sure, David Miller would never grab some chicks ass at a party. Instead, he increased spending from roughly 6.5 billion to 9.5 billion in 7 years and hired thousands of unionized workers and caved into the unions during the great strike.

Which is worse?

Thanks James.

Those are amazing, and surely central facts that do not seem to be addressed by the Ford opponents. I would still be interested to know if anyone knows the amount of the reserve fund at the begining of Miller's regime and at the end. Assuming the city debt was largely accumulated in Miller's regime, does anyone know how much it costs to service that debt per year?

 

[james t kirk]

Thanks James.

Those are amazing, and surely central facts that do not seem to be addressed by the Ford opponents. I would still be interested to know if anyone knows the amount of the reserve fund at the begining of Miller's regime and at the end. Assuming the city debt was largely accumulated in Miller's regime, does anyone know how much it costs to service that debt per year?

According to the Toronto Star (and if the leftie Star says it's bad, you know it's REALLY bad). And keeping in mind that my favourite Champagne Socialist David Miller was in power until October 2010.



The City of Toronto’s net debt increased almost 20 per cent in 2010, to $4.4 billion at the end of the year.


The increase means that paying off principal and interest will continue to be the third-biggest expense facing taxpayers, said Councillor Doug Holyday, chair of council’s audit committee.


The police department’s budget, almost $1 billion, represents the single biggest expense, followed by the Toronto Transit Commission.


Payments on the city’s debt are expected to total more than $400 million this year — more than the $370 million cost of operating the fire department.


“There’s just too much money required to service the debt,” Holyday said. “That’s one of the things to be stopped if we’re going to control expenditures.”


The debt grew by $721 million in 2010; as of Dec. 31, 2009, it was $3.7 billion.


A staff report said one factor that drove up debt was the $253 million borrowed to repair Toronto Community Housing Corp. units.


The housing company, which has 58,000 units, has warned that the repair backlog continues to grow despite an aggressive repair program.


For example, repairs done in 2008 cost $132 million, but that was well short of what was needed. As a result the backlog actually grew to $500 million from $350 million.


The backlog last year was about $650 million and is expected to grow to about $700 million this year.

Link:

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2011/06/27/toronto_debt_44b_and_rising.html

 

[james t kirk]

Obviously the cost of all the government housing is something that seems to have fallen through the cracks when it comes to debate.

Begs the question, "why is the City of Toronto in the housing business"?

 

[Butler1000]

Here's an interesting article in the star today. It very clearly lays out the difference between Miller and Ford and essentially that Ford has accomplished nothing in the two years he's been in office other than an embarrassment to Toronto:
http://read.thestar.com/#!/article/5140660d7b1eac31cc067746

Of course the ford supporters on this board won't read it and cry conspiracy from the liberals. That's ok, they aren't used to thinking for themselves.

Right so I read the "article". It is a piece written by an opinion columist. I've read this guy before on several topics. Most of what he writes would find a more receptive audience in NOW magazine. Can find zero wrong with Miller. Zero? I'll call the Mayor on stupid shit or any other politician. But to say that a piece written comparing two mayors. One in for 7 years and the other in for two....and find NOTHING that went wrong on his tenure.....and call it factual news reporting.

Man are you reaching. Seriously

 

[GameBoy27]

Ford is an idiot for a lot of reasons (as we all know), but he's not bankrupting the city.

Miller on the other hand was a complete FUCKING IDIOT, far worse than Ford could ever be. Sure, David Miller would never grab some chicks ass at a party. Instead, he increased spending from roughly 6.5 billion to 9.5 billion in 7 years and hired thousands of unionized workers and caved into the unions during the great strike.

Which is worse?

Obviously the fat fuck with a stain on his shirt.

I personally saw Miller with a few drinks in him and one in hand slide up to a small group of 20 something women in a pub and was very touchie feelie. After about 10 minutes, he left. I was with a different group but knew one of them and she told me later that the close proximity and touching was icky. Hot 20 something women get that every minute so it's not something they call the police or facebook about.

I have no reason to disbelieve your story. Just like I have it on good authority (from someone who used to supply him) that Miller smoked pot. As much as didn't like Miller, I couldn't give a shit. But people try to make such a big deal out of the little things that Ford does that don't really matter and overlook the good he's done.

 

[Celticman]

Obviously the fat fuck with a stain on his shirt.

On the basis that runaway spending does not matter, I agree with you. :hand: :hand: :hand:

 

[GameBoy27]

On the basis that runaway spending does not matter, I agree with you. :hand: :hand: :hand:

Did what I say not come across as sarcastic? It was meant to. They really need a "sarcasm" font.

 

[fuji]

Begs the question, "why is the City of Toronto in the housing business"?

Social housing was downloaded to the city by the province under Harris. It's been a disaster.

 

[Moviefan-2]

AMEN to every point you make here. Yes, Ford is not the best and brightest or classiest guy, but if you don't want spending to be out of control, he's better than Miller.

He was also better than any of the people who were running against him in 2010.

Smitherman, for example, has had his fingerprints on almost all of the Liberals' screw ups at Queen's Park (other than the botched fight with the teachers), including the ongoing energy-policy fiasco.

As for Crazy Sarah....

 

[fun-guy]

Ford's biggest disappointment as mayor was that Don Bosco Eagles did not win the Metro Bowl football championship.

 

[james t kirk]

He was also better than any of the people who were running against him in 2010.

Smitherman, for example, has had his fingerprints on almost all of the Liberals' screw ups at Queen's Park (other than the botched fight with the teachers), including the ongoing energy-policy fiasco.

As for Crazy Sarah....

Smitherman was in hugely over his head.

Without even getting into his massive drug addiction, Smitherman is a Grade 9 drop-out. Do you really want a Grade 9 drop-out being your mayor? (At least Ford has High School, though he did drop out of first year Poli Sci at Carleton (now there's an intense work-load at a power institute).)

I had an aquaintance who had the extreme displeasure of working for Smitherman. Smitherman was described to me as a tyrant to work for. A man who screams and yells and humiliates those around him. (Effective Management 101 a la George Smitherman.) The truth is that Smitherman is incompetent on every level and he is intimidated by those who are skilled, educated, capable, and don't have a raging drug problem. So his (Smitherman's) style is to attack and belittle and bully.

You didn't see McGuinty trying to bring George back into the provincial liberal fold after his mayoral candidacy went south did you? That alone speaks volumes. McGuinty was glad to get rid of him.

 

[groggy]

There are a few articles out today outlining the differences between Wynne and Ford on the transit issue.
We had a pretty good plan and good provincial support for it, Ford has totally screwed up on that file.
His preference for subways that will never pay for themselves in limited areas is about as idiotic as his ferris wheel plan.