RIP Peter Green (nee Greenbaum)

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PETER GREEN DEAD AT 73



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Peter Green, one of the founding members of Fleetwood Mac, has died.
The family put out a statement that said ... "It is with great sadness that the family of Peter Green announce his death this weekend, peacefully in his sleep."
Green, a blues/rock guitarist, created Fleetwood Mac with Mick Fleetwood way back in '67, and the group produced an insane number of hits ... the insanity only surpassed by the drama inside the group.
Among the hits ... "Black Magic Woman" and "Need Your Love So Bad."
The group was originally known as Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac featuring Jeremy Spencer. It's a mouthful, and was collapsed to simply Fleetwood Mac several years later.
Peter left the group in 1970, creating a guitarist void in the group that was eventually filled by Lindsey Buckingham. He struggled with mental illness, which was a principal reason he left the group.
There were 9 members of the band during the years -- Mick, Peter, Stevie Nicks, Lindsey Buckingham, John McVie, Christine McVie, Danny Kirwan, Bob Welch and Jeremy Spencer. All but Welch were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 1998.
Peter was 73. RIP.
 
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If you have 43 minutes to spare here's a long YouTube clip of early Fleetwood Mac when it was basically a blues and rock band with Peter Green on lead guitar.


If the video won't play, click on the "Watch this video on YouTube" link in the video frame...

Before Fleetwood Mac he did a couple of albums with John Mayall, and was held in the same high regard with blues guitar aficionados as Eric Clapton was in those days. If Clapton was called "God", Peter was known as "Green God".
 
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Here's a clip from when Peter was with John Mayall's Bluebreakers:


Guitar solo around 1:15 of the clip.
 
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Saw him at the end of 1968 in the UK. My friends dragged me along to see the new sensation. Didn't get it. Seems his legend lived forever.Similar sort of problems to Syd Barret in a way. I heard he became a gardener for a while. What did surprise me was that he was the younger brother of the really legendary Mick Green, of Johnny Kidd and the Pirates fame. Quite the family. RIP.
 

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I guess he wasn't around by then but I remember When Fleetwood Mac put out the album ''Rumours''.

It won a few Grammy awards that year if I recall and was on the radio all the time.
 

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It seems the band had a revolving door of members throughout the years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleetwood_Mac#Discography

I also recall that Bob Welch left the band just before they reached the stratosphere. I often wondered what Bob felt about that - did he leave too soon, or was he the guy who held them back?

I was partial to the album that preceded Rumours, it was titled Fleetwood Mac. I heard that when it was released, Rumours sold enough copies for each household in Canada. I don't know how true that is, but I do know that most of my friends or one of their siblings had the album. Nobody in my house had it.
 
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70's mega stadium band. I had Rumours and quite liked it. A bit too "70's" for my tastes nowadays, but I could probably still sing a couple of verses of Rhiannon from memory.
 

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For what it's worth Peter Green left Fleetwood Mac well before it became a pop oriented "stadium" band, with the "Rumours" line-up.

When it was Peter's band it was primarily a blues band. Peter wrote some of their material, others were blues standrards, and Jeremy Spencer on bottleneck guitar was an Elmore James freak, so their concerts usually included several Elmore James classics.
 

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This is one of my favourites. RIP
Note in the clip the rhythm pickup on his "59 Burst is turned around 180 degrees. This, plus the fact that he flipped its magnets while tinkering with it, gave his guitar a somewhat, for a Les Paul, out-of-phase sound, which was his signature tone. This when both pickups were on at the same time.

That tone is similar to T-Bone Walker's, but of course way more amplified.
 
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For what it's worth Peter Green left Fleetwood Mac well before it became a pop oriented "stadium" band, with the "Rumours" line-up.

When it was Peter's band it was primarily a blues band. Peter wrote some of their material, others were blues standrards, and Jeremy Spencer on bottleneck guitar was an Elmore James freak, so their concerts usually included several Elmore James classics.
My son is a professional musician and he refuses to listen to post-Peter Green Fleetwood Mac. The music of the popular and successful reincarnation has zero relevance to the vision that Peter Green had.

Talking about Rumors etc. has nothing to do with the man being remembered.
 
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Fleetwood Mac decided to follow the money.

It seems their pathway was similar to Genesis, with and without Peter Gabriel.

It might be something about the name Peter G.
 

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Note in the clip the rhythm pickup on his "59 Burst is turned around 180 degrees. This, plus the fact that he flipped its magnets while tinkering with it, gave his guitar a somewhat, for a Les Paul, out-of-phase sound, which was his signature tone. This when both pickups were on at the same time.

That tone is similar to T-Bone Walker's, but of course way more amplified.
Excellent observation!
 

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One more copy and paste, from the current issue of Premier Guitar mag (no relation to Pure or Perla lol)

"Peter Green: 1946–2020

Ted Drozdowski

July 27, 2020







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In this photo taken in 1970, Peter Green travels the fantastic with his legendary 1959 Les Paul Standard known as the Holy Grail, with Fleetwood Mac. Like Green, the instrument also has an enduring legacy and is now owned by Kirk Hammett. Photo by Christian Rose / Fastimage / Frank White Photo Agency
B.B. King proclaimed that Peter Green “has the sweetest tone I ever heard. He was the only one who gave me the cold sweats.”
Of course, King wasn’t alone in his reaction to Green’s playing, which became legendary during the four-year period, from 1966 to 1970, when Green replaced Eric Clapton in John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers for A Hard Road, and then led the blues band version of Fleetwood Mac through three albums and a string of singles that included his original version of “Black Magic Woman,” “Need Your Love So Bad,” “Albatross,” “Oh Well Pt. 1 & 2,” and “The Green Manalishi.”

Green’s own road came to an end on Saturday, July 25, at age 73 when, according to a lawyer for his family, he died in his sleep. In the years between, Green struggled with mental illness and fallout from drug abuse that kept him from the stage and studio—except for a handful of recordings and appearances—for much of the 1970s and ’80s. In 1996, he emerged at the front of the Peter Green Splinter Group, supported by guitarist Nigel Watson and, initially, drummer Cozy Powell, and resumed touring internationally. But even then many of his performances were erratic and he often seemed distanced—even when revisiting the enduring songs he’d authored at the helm of Fleetwood Mac.
Peter Allen Greenbaum was born on October 29, 1946, in London, and grew up in the city’s Whitechapel section. He started playing guitar in elementary school and, as a teenager, began performing in bands—including a soul group called Shotgun Express, with Rod Stewart. Like so many young guitarists in mid-’60s London, Green fell under the spell of Eric Clapton, who was just a year older but was being heralded as “God” due to the burly tone, conflagrant dexterity, and vocabulary of American blues guitar he displayed onstage with Mayall’s band.
When Green was invited to replace Clapton in the Bluesbreakers, he did so with a Gibson Les Paul and a Marshall combo, in emulation of his hero. But with the band’s 1967 album, Green stepped out of Clapton’s shadow as a 6-string visionary. He smeared transcendent guitar all over A Hard Road, setting a new creative bar in British blues not only with his interpretations of classics like Elmore James’ “Dust My Broom” and Freddie King’s “The Stumble,” but with his own “The Same Way” and the instrumental “The Supernatural.” The latter, in particular, showcased his interest in pushing the genre’s boundaries, creating a sonic dreamscape that superbly balanced tone, volume, sustain, natural reverb, and feedback—and it did so three months before Jimi Hendrix’s Are You Experienced was released.
That same year, Green ventured off with Mayall’s rhythm section to form Fleetwood Mac. For three years and the studio albums Fleetwood Mac, Mr. Wonderful, and the psychedelic blues opus Then Play On, Green’s version of the band was at the creative forefront of the blues-rock movement. In addition to Green, Mac also included guitarists Jeremy Spencer and Danny Kirwan, providing considerable 6-string firepower.
Green’s catalog of ’66 to ’70 remains a necessary touchstone for any guitarist seriously interested in exploring foundational British blues—or, simply, blues.
Green’s catalog of ’66 to ’70 remains a necessary touchstone for any guitarist seriously interested in exploring foundational British blues—or, simply, blues. Examined chronologically, it illustrates his evolution from hard-core traditionalist to a composer capable of both deep introspection (“Man of the World”) and psychedelic experimentalism (“The Green Manalishi”).
His near-constant companion on that journey was a 1959 Les Paul Standard, which became known as the Holy Grail in part due to its distinctive, airy out-of-phase sound, but mostly because of the buttery, hyper-emotive style in which Green made it sing. (Our columnist Jol Dantzig once had the guitar on his bench, and his determination was that—contrary to many tales about the source point of its sound—a magnet was reversed in one pickup at the Gibson factory.)
In 1970, while going through a time of emotional crisis complicated by LSD use, Green quit the band, who by then were a staple of the British pop charts. As the decade continued, he began to unravel. He lost his interest in playing and was arrested for threatening his accountant with a shotgun. Eventually he left the music world altogether and moved to the outskirts of a village in the English countryside, whose residents took to calling him “the Werewolf” due to his long, unkempt hair and fingernails. He was diagnosed with schizophrenia and reportedly underwent electroconvulsive therapy and hospitalizations, along with drug therapy.
Nonetheless, Green endured and when he returned to the stage in the ’90s, there was an international cult of fans still waiting to greet him. In 1998, Green was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame as a member of Fleetwood Mac, and he jammed at the ceremony with Carlos Santana, whose band was also inducted that year. Their song of choice was “Black Magic Woman,” which Green authored and recorded in 1968, and suggested that Santana cut.
This past February, Mick Fleetwood organized a tribute to “Greeny,” as his friends and admirers called him, at the London Palladium, with Pete Townshend, Billy Gibbons, David Gilmour, Noel Gallagher, and Kirk Hammett all taking the stage.
If a true sign of a guitarist’s impact on his art are the players who carry the torch of his influence, Green’s acolytes are an impressive lot. They include former Rolling Stones member Mick Taylor, who replaced him in Mayall’s Bluesbreakers, Clapton himself, who has praised Green as “one of the best,” Aerosmith’s Joe Perry, Genesis’ Steve Hackett, the Black Crowes’ Rich Robinson, and Wishbone Ash’s Andy Powell. But the most prominent was certainly Gary Moore, who bought Green’s Les Paul from him shortly after Green left Fleetwood Mac, and owned it for 36 years before selling the instrument at auction. Since then, it was purchased by Hammett, who reportedly paid close to $2 million and has used it in recent live performances."

My only quibble with the article is that it that it says the flipped rhythm pickup magnets were done at the Gibson factory. That would have been most unusual. Especially installing the pickup in the guitar 180 degrees turned from the normal way. I still believe that it was a result of Peter himself tinkering with the pickup.
 
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