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Resolution Introduced to Remove Pelosi as House Speaker

squeezer

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Haha...now they are acting silly.

In the meantime the public struggle to pay their mortgages and bills. It's ridiculous how political everything has become in the US and it's amazing how here, all the levels of government for the most part are working in unison on issues surrounding the pandemic.
 
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Frankfooter

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In the meantime the public struggle to pay their mortgages and bills. It's ridiculous how political everything has become in the US and it's amazing how here, all the levels of government for the most part are working in unison on issues surrounding the pandemic.
Guess they decided that's more important than getting aid to their voters.
 

toguy5252

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The Republicans are actively against getting aid to their voters.
The GOP has much more important business to deal with than getting aid to peole and vsuinesses who need it departly. Like investigating Hillary and Mueller. Come on man get your priorities straight.
 

silentkisser

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U.S. politics has been diseased for a long time. It started with Newt Gingrich 25 years ago, where he played the zero-sum brand of political motivation. I win, you lose, no middle ground or compromise. Fox News and the other right-wing media facilitators have injected a level of spin to the public discourse that people who are avid viewers/readers are significantly less informed on what stuff.

The scary thing is, it's starting to happen up here. Remember Sun News? They wanted to be like Fox for a Canadian audience. They had a loyal (but small) audience, most jumped ship to Rebel Media (started by Sun alumni Ezra Levant), which purposely spins or inflates petty scandals so they appear to be a bigger deal.

This stuff by Collins is such Fox News inspired BS. Saying impeaching Trump was part of a baseless investigation??? But of course the hard-core Fox fans eat this shit up...
 

Dutch Oven

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U.S. politics has been diseased for a long time. It started with Newt Gingrich 25 years ago, where he played the zero-sum brand of political motivation. I win, you lose, no middle ground or compromise. Fox News and the other right-wing media facilitators have injected a level of spin to the public discourse that people who are avid viewers/readers are significantly less informed on what stuff.

The scary thing is, it's starting to happen up here. Remember Sun News? They wanted to be like Fox for a Canadian audience. They had a loyal (but small) audience, most jumped ship to Rebel Media (started by Sun alumni Ezra Levant), which purposely spins or inflates petty scandals so they appear to be a bigger deal.

This stuff by Collins is such Fox News inspired BS. Saying impeaching Trump was part of a baseless investigation??? But of course the hard-core Fox fans eat this shit up...
Neither Newt Gingrich nor Fox invented identity politics, the Democrats did, and that's what poisoned US politics.
 

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In the meantime the public struggle to pay their mortgages and bills. It's ridiculous how political everything has become in the US and it's amazing how here, all the levels of government for the most part are working in unison on issues surrounding the pandemic.
The two parties did work in unison. To ensure the corporate donors of both parties recieved full aid packages as needed.

Neithe needs to help the little guy. They prefer to use them as a political tool.
 

decoy2673

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Lol @ the sanctimonious Canadians in this thread. Our politics are even worse than US. Dont act like our shit doesn't stink. Our prime minister is a black-faced wearing racist.

At least in the US they try and hold their scummy politicians accountable. Ours just go on with impunity.
 
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The Republicans are actively against getting aid to their voters.
Absolutely, not so. The House is responsible for the allocation of funds. The House has to originate the disbursement bills, not the President or the Senate. It amazes me that the fools on this site don't know this. It is up to the Speaker of the House to create the bill to pay the cheques.
 
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Absolutely, not so. The House is responsible for the allocation of funds. The House has to originate the disbursement bills, not the President or the Senate. It amazes me that the fools on this site don't know this. It is up to the Speaker of the House to create the bill to pay the cheques.
Wrong.

'Grim Reaper' Mitch McConnell Admits There Are 395 House Bills Sitting in the Senate: 'We're Not Going to Pass Those'


 

Valcazar

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Absolutely, not so. The House is responsible for the allocation of funds. The House has to originate the disbursement bills, not the President or the Senate. It amazes me that the fools on this site don't know this. It is up to the Speaker of the House to create the bill to pay the cheques.
And those bills have been originated and sent to the Senate.
The Senate can also, as you know, take a bill that was sent for something else and then completely replace it with their own bill and get past this. (It's how they passed the CARES act - the Senate just completely rewrote the House bill and sent it back saying "here are our edits".)

The Senate is not powerless here and McConnel has said that he won't pass either the bill Pelosi sent or even the lower version Mnuchin negotiated.
Senators are on the record saying that if they passed a bill that helped people it would be politically disastrous for them.

This would be “the deal knell for our majority if Pelosi gets this win,” - Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.)
 
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Gooseifur

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And those bills have been originated and sent to the Senate.
The Senate can also, as you know, take a bill that was sent for something else and then completely replace it with their own bill and get past this. (It's how they passed the CARES act - the Senate just completely rewrote the House bill and sent it back saying "here are our edits".)

The Senate is not powerless here and McConnel has said that he won't pass either the bill Pelosi sent or even the lower version Mnuchin negotiated.
Senators are on the record saying that if they passed a bill that helped people it would be politically disastrous for them.

This would be “the deal knell for our majority if Pelosi gets this win,” - Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.)
They need both branches to pass something and when one party owns one branch and the other party owns the other branch that's when nothing gets done. Both sides are to blame
 

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Bring real leaders and the Republican are not that bad. Heck even fucking Bush does not endorse Trump. That says it all regarding the current chaos Trumpet created. Guys never forget the guy is a psychopath.
 
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Valcazar

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They need both branches to pass something and when one party owns one branch and the other party owns the other branch that's when nothing gets done. Both sides are to blame
Only they really aren't. You could blame the Founders for creating a system with so many veto points. The advantage of that is it obscures who is really responsible for things not getting passed.
In this case, however, it is pretty clearly McConnel and the group of Republicans who are against any further aid.
 
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Gooseifur

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Only they really aren't. You could blame the Founders for creating a system with so many veto points. The advantage of that is it obscures who is really responsible for things not getting passed.
In this case, however, it is pretty clearly McConnel and the group of Republicans who are against any further aid.
I don't think they are. If the Democrats remove the bail out to cities and states and they still don't agree then I'm with you. If they are willing to strike a deal without the bail outs then they are being genuine. If they are not then they are using it as an excuse to not provide further aid.
 

Valcazar

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Interesting.
You think the sticking point is providing funds to states?
Why would you be against that?

But sure. If that's the sticking point, then Mitch would trade corporate immunity for it, right?
 

decoy2673

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Bring real leaders and the Republican are not that bad. Heck even fucking Bush does not endorse Trump. That says it all regarding the current chaos Trumpet created. Guys never forget the guy is a psychopath.
The absence of an endorsement doesn't mean anything. You're projecting your sick fantasies of hating Trump on a person you dont know. Its typical cringe leftism.
 

Leimonis

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The absence of an endorsement doesn't mean anything. You're projecting your sick fantasies of hating Trump on a person you dont know. Its typical cringe leftism.
he is telling you that hating trump is normal whether you are left or right because trump is a tested and true piece of shit.

Lindsay Graham said he was disgusted by trump. Is he a leftie?
 
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