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Rep. Tom Tancredo like our Truncy says, PANCAKE EM !

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Here's a GOP Congressman who seems to think alot like our Truncador.
Who knows maybe Tom Tancredo is a Terbite and likes Truncy's 'final solution.'

After reading this article I just had to pass it along.....Truncy is not alone... :eek:

Nuke 'em 'Till They Glow and Then Shoot 'em in The Dark
By Staff and Wire Reports
Jul 19, 2005, 01:50

A Colorado congressman told a radio show host that the U.S. could "take out" Islamic holy sites if Muslim fundamentalist terrorists attacked the country with nuclear weapons.

Rep. Tom Tancredo made his remarks Friday on WFLA-AM in Orlando, Fla. His spokesman stressed he was only speaking hypothetically.

Talk show host Pat Campbell asked the Littleton Republican how the country should respond if terrorists struck several U.S. cities with nuclear weapons.

"Well, what if you said something like _ if this happens in the United States, and we determine that it is the result of extremist, fundamentalist Muslims, you know, you could take out their holy sites," Tancredo answered.

"You're talking about bombing Mecca," Campbell said.

"Yeah," Tancredo responded.

The congressman later said he was "just throwing out some ideas" and that an "ultimate threat" might have to be met with an "ultimate response."

Spokesman Will Adams said Sunday the four-term congressman doesn't support threatening holy Islamic sites but that Tancredo was grappling with the hypothetical situation of a terrorist strike deadlier than the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

"We have an enemy with no uniform, no state, who looks like you and me and only emerges right before an attack. How do we go after someone like that?" Adams said.

"What is near and dear to them? They're willing to sacrifice everything in this world for the next one. What is the pressure point that would deter them from their murderous impulses?" he said.

Tancredo is known in the House for his tough stand on immigration and had a 100 percent rating last year from the American Conservative Union his votes and positions on issues.

Mohammad Noorzai, coordinator of the Colorado Muslim Council and a native of Afghanistan, said Tancredo's remarks were radical and unrepresentative but that people in Tancredo's position need to watch their words when it comes to sacred religious sites and texts.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7066.shtml
 

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"What is near and dear to them? They're willing to sacrifice everything in this world for the next one. What is the pressure point that would deter them from their murderous impulses?" he said.
Finally somebody gets it !

[Tancredo]had a 100 percent rating last year from the American Conservative Union his votes and positions on issues.
More objective proof that he's graced with the power of invincible thought. Somebody promote this man, please. :D
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong truncy, but this guy sounds a bit tame by your standards. It was my understanding you wouldn't wait for an attack, but take them all out first with a preemptive nuclear pancaking.
 

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Truncador said:
Finally somebody gets it !



More objective proof that he's graced with the power of invincible thought. Somebody promote this man, please.
Maybe Rove will promote this guy for 2008 !
Rove (a man Dubya often calls "turd blossom") did wonders for 'W', so maybe he can do the same for Tom Tancredo.....that is if Rove isn't hung or put in jail for a long time.......... :D
 

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Pancake Em, is definitely better than PT's boiling em in oil........ :D

Turning the sand in to glass, ain't bad either !
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong truncy, but this guy sounds a bit tame by your standards. It was my understanding you wouldn't wait for an attack, but take them all out first with a preemptive nuclear pancaking.
The concept of pancaking does not imply genocide, but the WWII protocol of bombing the despotic spirit out of a nation or people, to be followed by benevolence and rehabilitation.

Tancredo's remarks actually were quite tame and understated in light of the question he was responding to. If America did undergo several nuke attacks by terrorists, something much worse than the destruction of Islamic holy sites would befall the Moslems, whether we like it or not.
 

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Truncador said:
The concept of pancaking does not imply genocide, but the WWII protocol of bombing the despotic spirit out of a nation or people, to be followed by benevolence and rehabilitation.
The old "this is going to hurt me more than it hurts you" approach. Gotcha.
 

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If America did undergo several nuke attacks by terrorists, something much worse than the destruction of Islamic holy sites would befall the Moslems, whether we like it or not.
Very likely true. Madness can often be infectious, afterall.
 

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The old "this is going to hurt me more than it hurts you" approach. Gotcha.
Also known as the "who's your daddy" approach. Very effective and well-understood in honour-and-shame cultures (cf. The Holy Quran, Sura 47:4), although often poorly understood (to the point of total miscomprehension) in advanced liberal democracies.
 

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...the WWII protocol of bombing the despotic spirit out of a nation or people...
The best definition of insanity is to do the same thing repeatedly, expecting a different result.
It didn't work then, so it very likely won't work now:
  • The blitz, including the V1 and V2 attacks, were totally ineffective against English spirit;
  • Daylight and nighttime carpet bombing raids against the Axis had some minor effect on wartime production, but only solidified their will against the Allies;
  • Same thing goes for the bombing of Japan, though of course by the time Fat Man and Little Boy erupted in a nuclear burp over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japanese war machine was already toast;
  • Carpet bombing of North Vietnam had no discernable effect on their ability to wage war, and was a huge propaganda boost to enemies of the US, both at home and abroad;
  • Desert Storm v. 1 & 2 bombings were more targetted against military objectives but had little effect on civilian morale.
There are probably more examples, but those are the ones I could think of off the top of my ever-balding cranium.
 

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The bombing of Dresden had a devastating effect on the population. especially on those that had to live through it.
Very true, but wasn't Dresden nearly obliterated? What "lesson", as truncy is suggesting, would have been taught to the German people if every city had received the same treatment?
 

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The bombing of Dresden had a devastating effect on the population. especially on those that had to live through it.
I agree. It was even worse (apparently) in Hamburg during the firestorms. But the point remains: the population of Germany, and those that supported the Axis, were emboldened by such raids, just like the English were during the blitz.

Did New York back down after 9/11? Did London back down after the bombings on the tubes and bus a couple of weeks ago?

Of course not.

There's no reason to believe that human nature is different in the Arab world.
 

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You guys are right
In general, unless you diectly affected by it, those bombings do very little.


I happen to know somebody that was about 13 or 14 when the bombing happened. Until this day she hides in the bedroom when there is fireworks!!
Some of the stories she told me, still haunt me today...
 

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happygrump said:
There's no reason to believe that human nature is different in the Arab world.
Human nature has nothing to do with it. America is probably the only self-sufficient society in human history that was never conquered by anybody.
 

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Human nature has nothing to do with it. America is probably the only self-sufficient society in human history that was never conquered by anybody.
Given how indebted the U.S. is to the rest of the world, I'm curious as to how you're using the phrase "self-sufficient".
 

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Not dependent on another power for military protection. The idea was to distinguish the case of the USA from that of Canada and a few others.
 

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It didn't work then
Um, it worked like gangbusters in WWII.

The blitz, including the V1 and V2 attacks, were totally ineffective against English spirit
Worked with everyone else, though (in some cases, just the threat was enough).


Daylight and nighttime carpet bombing raids against the Axis had some minor effect on wartime production, but only solidified their will against the Allies
We subdued them completely in that war.


Same thing goes for the bombing of Japan, though of course by the time Fat Man and Little Boy erupted in a nuclear burp over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japanese war machine was already toast
It's to be noted that they didn't actually give up until they were nuked. There's more to subjugating people than destroying industrial wherewithal.


Carpet bombing of North Vietnam had no discernable effect on their ability to wage war, and was a huge propaganda boost to enemies of the US, both at home and abroad
That would be because they didn't do it thoroughly enough to destroy their will to make war.
 
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The US is not self sufficient. Energy is imported. Most textiles are now imported. Most consumer electronics are imported. A growing list of services (ie medical, accounting, customer service) are imported.

Cut trade off, and the US will freeze in the dark the next winter.
We can always invade Canada and take their oil and timber....invade South America for cheap labor.
As long as we have fuel for the military.
Interestingly enough the Army is testing prototype weapons running on hydrogen...which brings me to the next point...doesn't Canada has the largest freshwater resource in the world?
I guess that would be number three on the list of reasons to invade Canada...anyone here see Canadian Bacon?

Add gold and diamond mines..hmmm let me call Rove on this
 
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