REOPENING AT STAGE 2, with recommendations for Coordinated Toronto Reopening Strategy

[doggystyle99]

Hey everyone. It's been a trying time for those of us in the industry, the most difficult period that I've ever experienced. There's no precedent for what we're going through, and no precedent for our recovery, either. We've consulted all the SPs in the Allegra Collective, as well as hundreds of clients who arrange bookings in Toronto, and we've come to a decision:

We will resume bookings, under strictly limited criteria, when Ontario enters STAGE 2 of the recovery.

So, we hope to return to limited operations when Ontario declares the start of Stage 2, which could be anywhere from 3-8 weeks from now, depending on how things progress.

Thanks for this post Nikki. And also, thank you for the positive communication during the beginning stages of this dilemma. Toronto Passions will stand with many well thought out aspects of this plan. We also hope to incorporate the use of temperature guns, and a mandatory questionnaire.

Very good post Nikki.

Philip

I am greatful for the reputable agencies who take their operations seriously and those are the ones who I support. Thank you for basing your decision on what the health and government officials are telling us I expected this from the reputable agencies.
I do hope phase 2 is sooner than later and think we'll have some sense of normalcy probably mid to late June.

 

[mandrill]

Very well thought out, expressed and prudent.

Bravo!

I agree.

 

[farquhar]

Contact tracing is a deal-breaker, for me. But thanks for being upfront about it. I won't use any agency that openly admits to and enforces contact tracing.

It's seems clear to me that the ownership of some of the more established agencies (Allegra, Mirage, Sexy Friends, Toronto Passions, Minx, and Top Drawer) have been consulting with each other throughout this crisis; while each agency operates in the manner it deems fit, I would expect that some version of this policy is going to be applied across these agencies.

Hush was already taking board handles before letting clients book; so, anyone who ever booked with Hush is already used to this.

I don't believe some of the smaller "B" agencies will adopt this policy; so it won't be system wide.

The syndicate has decided that we re-open at Phase Two....I think it's still too soon.

But, then nothing is going to be the same again for a long time; be it the sex industry, or anything else.

 

[SchlongConery]

Just open now.

I haven't paid any attention to whatever regulations they are imposing. Just doing my normal thing. No masks, no washing hands more frequently. Never been sick. I haven't -seen- anyone that has been sick worse than the typical flu.

I'm going to trust my eyes rather than the hearsay from the TV.

It’s still the same for the many who have rejected this concept of “new normal”...

 

[voldomort]

First of all, wow, I'm so impressed with the carefully considered thought put into this post. I agree with you that contact tracing is a fundamental requirement to open and not draw the eyes of authorities. However, I think it's best to assume that if you see providers, you will get the virus. Therefore, if you or people close to you are at high risk, you should not see providers period. However, if you are limiting the potential danger to yourself only, then it's your decision to make. The providers should also understand that they will almost certainly get the virus sometime between now and the fall. They should be ok with this possibility.

 

[Bumblaster]

All these guidelines....blah blah blah

Who's gonna bother? Really

For the cost of all this for minimal contact by a provider who's gonna treat you like a leper (there goes the bbbj) just get on a flight to Thailand -flights start in a couple of weeks- and spend a week with a stunning young Thai girl for less money ($80 for an all-nighter).

$2000-2500 is going to get you a flight to the land of smiles, 5 star hotel for a week with all the pussy you want, why waste your money in Toronto? You deserve a vacation..Now if you guys are married and pussy whipped well, unfortunately you're fucked, there's no getting away for you.

Cheers

 

[whitewaterguy]

Good on you! Why you feel the need to voice that opinion is beyond me.

FORUM, def.: noun
1.
a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
"it will be a forum for consumers to exchange their views on medical research"

 

[trippingwalker]

all i want to know is: when can i start booking appointments with the best and hottest SPs toronto has to offer? I simply can't wait to put money back into this economy.

 

[Dcoat]

Excellent, clear, and easy to predict guidelines.

Please try and resolve 1 issue for me.

This has always been the case, but in a very different context - "SPs will have the right to refuse any service to any client for any reason, no explanation required".

I assume this will entail a much broader set of criteria for refusing services. That may be a good idea, I don't know.

But if this gets much more prominence, how do you plan to deal with the money?

Full refund, partial refund?

How will that be determined?

Amount of time spent or remaining?

 

[decoy2673]

I think that's the right move. Covid might be here a while so its time we start to move on with our lives rather than lock ourselves away for the rest of our life. Life is about living, not reading CNN all day and spreading doom and gloom.

I really think its as simple as this, the absolute core of this business. Two consenting adults should do whatever the fuck they want.

If youre a Covid fear mongerer. Go lock yourselves away for the rest of eternity, its your prerogative.

 

[coolmanfever]

any idea what percents of girls are comfortable to return for work?

 

[bebe]

Bebe, for the most part, I don't agree with much of what you like to babble on and on about but I do agree with I will not book a session for a sub-par session. That being no bj, no kissing etc.... therefore again, I will not return until I feel it is safe to do so for both the lady and myself.

ps....you're wrong again and lost the bet eh?

I know as soon as any agency reopens their doors you and doggystyle99 will be the first in-line to get serviced in spite of the reasons why you and he thinks they ought to remain closed.

At least we agree on one thing, neither of us will tolerate a sub-par session.

Do you really think the risk/contagiousness of the virus has changed in the last month, week or day? Give me a break

The phasing of the reopening is complete BS fabricated by the politicians to cover their asses for the needless shut down of the economy in the first place.

 

[bebe]

I am greatful for the reputable agencies who take their operations seriously and those are the ones who I support. Thank you for basing your decision on what the health and government officials are telling us I expected this from the reputable agencies.
I do hope phase 2 is sooner than later and think we'll have some sense of normalcy probably mid to late June.

...I knew you would not sit on the sidelines once the agencies reopen...LOL

 

[squeezer]

I know as soon as any agency reopens their doors you and doggystyle99 will be the first in-line to get serviced in spite of the reasons why you and he thinks they ought to remain closed.

At least we agree on one thing, neither of us will tolerate a sub-par session.

Do you really think the risk/contagiousness of the virus has changed in the last month, week or day? Give me a break

The phasing of the reopening is complete BS fabricated by the politicians to cover their asses for the needless shut down of the economy in the first place.

You're wrong again. I can see why the agencies want to open based on carrying leases and losing money. I completely understand from a business POV wanting to reopen in some form to start creating some cash flow, I get it. You are wrong in believing I will be standing in line if we do not have a treatment or vaccine or the long shot the virus self destructs. Short of this, there is no possible way to safely have sex without spreading the virus, it's impossible.

 

[bebe]

....vaccine.....Short of this, there is no possible way to safely have sex without spreading the virus, it's impossible.

That is 2 things we agree on. All comes down to how much risk the agency, the girl and you are willing to accept.

Let those who want to hobby, hobby. For those who don't, stay home. It is as simple as that.

 

[Jasmine Raine]

You're wrong again. I can see why the agencies want to open based on carrying leases and losing money. I completely understand from a business POV wanting to reopen in some form to start creating some cash flow, I get it. You are wrong in believing I will be standing in line if we do not have a treatment or vaccine or the long shot the virus self destructs. Short of this, there is no possible way to safely have sex without spreading the virus, it's impossible.

So you are retired until there is a vaccine?

 

[jetwolf]

Contact tracing is a deal-breaker, for me. But thanks for being upfront about it. I won't use any agency that openly admits to and enforces contact tracing.

There may be some confusion here stemming from the fact that the term "contact tracing" is a buzzword that's been used by the media and governments to refer to various schemes of varying levels of privacy-invasiveness.

As I understand, Allegra is simply asking that:

• They have a reliable way to contact you, and that in the event that a companion experiences covid symptoms or tests covid-positive within 14 days of seeing you, that they can contact you to let you know, so that you have the opportunity to get tested yourself / isolate / take other steps to protect your health.
• And in turn, that if you experience covid symptoms or test covid-positive within 14 days of seeing a companion, you agree to contact them so they can let the companion know, and give her the opportunity to get tested / isolate / take other steps to protect their health.

None of this entails police, public health, or any other authorities becoming aware of the fact that you had an encounter with the companion.

This is a common-sense safety measure, with very little added privacy risk, and huge potential upside in terms of risk mitigation.

If you're concerned about e.g. your SO glimpsing an unscheduled inbound text from Allegra, I'm sure they'd be open to contacting you through more private means such as TERB PM.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

I have a couple of questions for the agencies:

1. Will pricing remain the same when you re-open?

2. Will the services offered by the escorts change at all? I am anticipating that many ladies will be reluctant to include to include LFK/DFK services in their sessions for obvious reasons. I know all the SP’s ultimately make their own choices about services but I wonder if kissing will begin to be viewed in the same way that bbfs is regarded, at least as long as cv19 remains a global pandemic? Would you be able to give us a sense of how this is being discussed amongst sp’s/agencies and whether there is any consensus across the industry?

Thx

PS: If you don’t know or can’t answer that’s ok...just thought I’d ask.

 

[whitewaterguy]

It’s almost Trumpian in reality distortion , to label after-the-fact phone calls once involved parties are infected , as risk mitigation. Lol. gaslighting perfected

 

[jetwolf]

It’s almost Trumpian in reality distortion , to label after-the-fact phone calls once involved parties are infected , as risk mitigation. Lol. gaslighting perfected

The after-the-fact phone call allows the contacted party to start isolating, and thereby mitigates further spread by them.