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CapitalGuy said:
Well since he has time on his hands he may as well sue the NFL for taking away his livelihood. While I have limited sympathy or concern for a guy with millions in the bank, they have effectively prevented him from working, since he is a football player and there is only one job opportunity for football players in the US. He is not convicted of a crime. The employer certainly has a right to take action when an employee acts contrary to their ethics - I would offer that that action was taken when the Ravens fired him. To ban him from football though, to prevent him from ever again working in his field, is a more interesting action. They have denied him his livelihood. No doubt there are ample high-flying lawyers who would take the case for, say half the award? 1/3rd?
T'were I the wife-beating asshole, I would sue the NFL and see what happens.
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He has $25million, why wasted it on lawyers trying to sue. Why would he be limited to just being a football player or being in the football industry to earn a living?

He did attend Rutgers University (don't know if he graduated with a degree) and there a lots of people out there who don't even get that chance to attend a university. There are hundreds of former NCAA football players who don't make it to the NFL or play football for a living.

Should a teacher who committed sexual assault sue the government for preventing him/her from working in their chosen field....
 
realthing69 said:
He has $25million, why wasted it on lawyers trying to sue. Why would he be limited to just being a football player or being in the football industry to earn a living?

He did attend Rutgers University (don't know if he graduated with a degree) and there a lots of people out there who don't even get that chance to attend a university. There are hundreds of former NCAA football players who don't make it to the NFL or play football for a living.

Should a teacher who committed sexual assault sue the government for preventing him/her from working in their chosen field....
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Interesting points. I would off that he may as well sue - he won't spend much more than 1/25th of his net worth on legal fees and he may find a legal team willing to sue for a share of the winnings. He may also just want to regain his reputation through a legal victory.

As for being a University grad, his profession is football player, not bank manager.

The paedophile teacher analogy is not pertinent. A teacher who has a hard-on for kids should of course be kept away from kids. That is directly related to their job. Rice's action was not football related - he didn't clock a referee during a game (which would be analogous to a teacher who has a hard-on for kids).
 
I saw her hit him twice. I wouldnt hit an NFL er once. She probably didnt lose her job either. there are consequences for everyones actions no one gets a pass
 
Babypowder said:
I saw her hit him twice. I wouldnt hit an NFL er once. She probably didnt lose her job either
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She received a promotion. She is now wife.
 
CapitalGuy said:
Interesting points. I would off that he may as well sue - he won't spend much more than 1/25th of his net worth on legal fees and he may find a legal team willing to sue for a share of the winnings. He may also just want to regain his reputation through a legal victory.

As for being a University grad, his profession is football player, not bank manager.

The paedophile teacher analogy is not pertinent. A teacher who has a hard-on for kids should of course be kept away from kids. That is directly related to their job. Rice's action was not football related - he didn't clock a referee during a game (which would be analogous to a teacher who has a hard-on for kids).
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He must have majored in something and he must have had half decent SAT scores to get that athletic scholarship.

Either way, both former teacher or football player can still earn a living...
 
fuji said:
That makes a mockery of domestic assault.

Expel him from the league and ban him from signing with any team through at least three next season.
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shack said:
Would you propose the same penalty if a player was convicted (which hasn't actually happened yet with Rice) of assaulting another male? Other violent crimes?
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Still hoping to hear your response to this question.
 
shack said:
2)Goodell said a return to the NFL is a possibility so it is not necessarily a lifetime ban.
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They had better do it fast. The span of time when athletes are at their physical peak doesn't last long.
 
Aardvark154 said:
As I already posted what does she do then? It isn't as if either of them have great second career potential.
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Do what everybody else in the world does - get a job.
 
There were quite a few Ray Rice supporters at the game to-night. One lady said that it is up to Ray and his wife to work this matter out and it appears that they already have and have moved on with their lives but it lives on in the media because it is good for ratings.
 
SkyRider said:
There were quite a few Ray Rice supporters at the game to-night. One lady said that it is up to Ray and his wife to work this matter out and it appears that they already have and have moved on with their lives but it lives on in the media because it is good for ratings.
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HAHAHA, right. The only reason she is still with him is that there may be hope that he gets back in and she can divorce him for have. Right now she realizes her sugar daddy is going to be broke and she is going back to being a thot hoe.

These NFL'rs have no concept of reality, he thought that he was untouchable. He will probably get a rap career, end up on a street corner selling smack. HE IS A LOSER !
 
the same people that are outraged at Ray Rice where a couple months ago treating Solange's assault on Jay Z as a comedy event
 
It would seem that the majority sentiment on this thread is promoting parallel systems of crime and punishment: There is the legal system in which this is a domestic violence assault (simple assault) typically with a sentence of under a year (in New Jersey six months). Then there seems to be the NFL - public outcry system, in which the person is barred for life from their livelihood, and seems to be viewed as beyond any possibility of rehabilitation/redemption.

That seems inherently unfair and particularly so here on TERB where for a number of posters they typically view the legal system as too harsh.
 
The way the modern sports leagues are set up and operated, making celebrities out of every player, makes the players public spokespeople for their organizations in the same way a CEO or other senior executive is spokesperson for a typical company.

Thus the public behavior of a player reflects on the franchise and the league in a way that is different than the public behavior of a line cook at McDonald's.

It is therefore important that the franchise and the league distance itself from morally reprehensible behavior.

As for your legal system argument, if the players did not want to be bound to the good character clause of the contract, which they no doubt signed with good access to legal counsel, they certainly could have refused to sign. Then instead of being paid millions to represent their team they could beat up their girlfriends in relative obscurity.
 
fuji said:
It is therefore important that the franchise and the league distance itself from morally reprehensible behavior.
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And in the corporate world, it means you can never say you oppose gay marriage or say that yoga pants are not suitable for every woman.
 
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