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Are you saying that Muslim men DO NOT go to strip clubs?

Just because YOU don't know what their religion is, does that mean they are not in there?
You made the claim, so the burden of proof lies on you. Of course it's preposterous to assume that there are NO Muslim men in SCs whatsoever, but the meat of our discussion is whether this particular expression of hypocrisy is common enough amongst Muslim men.

I have seen men in turbans in SC's before. Maybe 2-3 times only, but I have seen it.
In Canada, 99/100 times guys in turbans are emphatically NOT Muslim - they're Sikh (completely different religion).
 

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I have been to many SC's too. So what?

Are you saying that Muslim men DO NOT go to strip clubs?

Just because YOU don't know what their religion is, does that mean they are not in there?

Does that mean they have not told the dancer they are with their religion?

I have seen men in turbans in SC's before. Maybe 2-3 times only, but I have seen it.

But if you want to feel that Muslim men do not go to SC's, ok. Got for it.
sikh's ( those guys in turbans - jeez you really are ignorant) can go, so can muslims..who cares?...wtf , i've seen priests and pastors there too...i think you have an image that all muslim men are4 Osama Bin Laden...sheesh
 

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I have been to many SC's too. So what?

Are you saying that Muslim men DO NOT go to strip clubs?

Just because YOU don't know what their religion is, does that mean they are not in there?

Does that mean they have not told the dancer they are with their religion?

I have seen men in turbans in SC's before. Maybe 2-3 times only, but I have seen it.

But if you want to feel that Muslim men do not go to SC's, ok. Got for it.
They certainly do. But they don't tend to stand out as muslims. So if someone is rude to a stripper, how exactly does that confirm their muslimness?
 

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ok, so three people and two incidents.....no be headings......i wonder how many christian, jew or any other religion or non has been found guilty of killing their wife because of infidelity? isn't that na honour killing too?
No, because motives matter. If they didn't, all murders would be prosecuted as murders. Attempting to draw false equivalences between cultural groups doesn't negate the fact that women were killed because they dishonoured the family and the patriarchs had to "save face" in front of their ethnic community.

Here's another article that sheds light on why this is such a huge problem amongst even immigrant Muslims. (note: "Asian" = "South Asian" across the pond)
 

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They certainly do. But they don't tend to stand out as muslims. So if someone is rude to a stripper, how exactly does that confirm their muslimness?
i can tell you, " oh look some brown guy came in with a moustace, and he's cheap and rude....must be mulsim"
 

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ok, so three people and two incidents.....no be headings......i wonder how many christian, jew or any other religion or non has been found guilty of killing their wife because of infidelity? isn't that na honour killing too?

You think I agree with any type of "honor killing"?

I don't give a shit which God you pray too.


You made the claim, so the burden of proof lies on you. Of course it's preposterous to assume that there are NO Muslim men in SCs whatsoever, but the meat of our discussion is whether this particular expression of hypocrisy is common enough amongst Muslim men.



In Canada, 99/100 times guys in turbans are emphatically NOT Muslim - they're Sikh (completely different religion).
Sorry, guess I should have said, I have seen jewish men too because of their head gear. I have seen bikers too because of their head gear.

I didn't make the claim BTW - go back and read. Someone else did. Then someone different asked the OP knows they are Muslim men.

My question was which is more accurate. That the strippers were wrong or that Muslim men do indeed go to strip clubs.


My opinion on the hypocrisy of it all, well that is just my opinion.


sikh's ( those guys in turbans - jeez you really are ignorant) can go, so can muslims..who cares?...wtf , i've seen priests and pastors there too...i think you have an image that all muslim men are4 Osama Bin Laden...sheesh

That was not the point I was making, but if you want to have that opinion, go for it. I really don't care.

I know what I feel and what I believe and I am ok with that.
 

Carling

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No, because motives matter. If they didn't, all murders would be prosecuted as murders. Attempting to draw false equivalences between cultural groups doesn't negate the fact that women were killed because they dishonoured the family and the patriarchs had to "save face" in front of their ethnic community.

Here's another article that sheds light on why this is such a huge problem amongst even immigrant Muslims. (note: "Asian" = "South Asian" across the pond)
why? if a very religious man kills his wife for infdelity ( or vice versa ) i see no difference
 

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why? if a very religious man kills his wife for infdelity ( or vice versa ) i see no difference
If a religious man kills his wife for infidelity because he can't handle the fact that she would find anybody else attractive enough to fuck, that's a crime of passion. If he kills his wife because that's what his holy book commands him to do in that case, it's a murder - and he's surely loony but it's not an honour killing.

But if a man kills his wife for sleeping with another man because he wants to save himself from communal embarrassment - protect his honour - that's an honour killing. It's an honour killing because he cares about his reputation of being a True Muslim/Pakistani/Martian Man© more than he cares about her life.
 
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