R.B. Ford assaulted in Little Italy

groggy

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Ahem...not that it matters to you but it was Rob Ford who has thus far refused a Security Guard and Driver.

Given the level of hatred that many have against him, who is to say what the next whack job is going to do, and who the next whack job will be.

As for "manning up and not being a pussy". You'd have an anyuerism if Ford actually did physically fight back if anyone tried to assault him.

And Ford would have a heart attack doing so! :faint:
Doug Ford is suggesting that Rob needs police protection.
I suppose that's good news, the combination of his connections now being in prison and police being around him should at least keep him straight for a little while.
Then he can get back to being outvoted on every measure at council again.
 

SchlongConery

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Doug Ford is suggesting that Rob needs police protection.
I suppose that's good news, the combination of his connections now being in prison and police being around him should at least keep him straight for a little while.
Then he can get back to being outvoted on every measure at council again.

Doug Ford also said that his younger cheapskate brother should not keep driving his clapped out minivan. So his brother bought him a Cadillac Escalade. Does that make Rob Ford a spendthrift?

Yes, he can get back to being outvoted at council again.

Then he (sadly) will get back to be voted right back in for a second term. If he is that much of a belligerent glutton for punishment.
 

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You are all defaming this poor woman's character. This is all hearsay. What proof do you have that she did anything wrong? Where is the video or photo to prove she assaulted Ford? Show me the video and I will believe it then.:rolleyes:
 

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Ahem...not that it matters to you but it was Rob Ford who has thus far refused a Security Guard and Driver.

Given the level of hatred that many have against him, who is to say what the next whack job is going to do, and who the next whack job will be.

As for "manning up and not being a pussy". You'd have an anyuerism if Ford actually did physically fight back if anyone tried to assault him.

And Ford would have a heart attack doing so! :faint:
We already know he likes to hit women, given the assault charges his wife has filed in the previous years before he was mayor.
 

groggy

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The woman's lawyer is complaining that Ford is talking about the case publicly and on his radio show.
Of course when people talk about is possible crack smoking he gets all upset about it, but he thinks its fine to talk about that case publicly.
Hypocrite.
 

GameBoy27

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They (cyclists) come closer to paying their fair share than car drivers do. Way closer.
Collectively, drivers pay more than their fair share. The problem is the government puts the vast majority into general coffers instead of spending it on transit and infrastructure.

http://www.tada.ca/Ontario-drivers-dont-need-new-taxes-tolls

Ontario drivers don’t need new taxes, tolls

April 13, 2013

When Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne was sworn into office in February, many Ontarians looked forward to hearing some new ideas and fresh thinking in tackling big issues facing the province.

One of those big issues is traffic gridlock in the GTA and aging infrastructure throughout the province. According to the Toronto Board of Trade, gridlock alone within the GTA costs the local economy $6 billion per year.

But when Premier Wynne hinted recently that Ontario drivers could be asked to pay more taxes to address gridlock and infrastructure issue, I was deeply disappointed, as were many Ontarians and Ontario drivers.

While she was Transportation Minister in 2011, Wynne was not in favour of road tolls, and current Transportation Minister, Glen Murray, also advocated against road tolls, a position he took during the recent Ontario Liberal Party leadership.

The Trillium Automobile Dealers Association, which represents 1,100 new car dealers across Ontario, was shocked to learn that Premier Wynne is considering the idea of implementing new tolls and/or taxes across the province. Ontario drivers already send $10 billion per year to the Ontario government in vehicle and driver-related taxes and fees.

However, the province spent only $3.1 billion on provincial highways and similar expenditures last year. Which means the remaining $6.9 billion went into general revenue. Is reinvesting 31% of the revenue back into transportation fair? Is asking the Ontario drivers to pay more in taxes and fees reasonable? In my opinion, the answer to both questions is NO!

Gridlock and aging infrastructure pose enormous logistical challenges for the GTA and the province, and huge financial investments will be required to remedy these problems. There is solution to no easy this problem. What I am opposed to, however, is the prospect of taxing Ontario drivers for new revenue streams.

Ontario drivers are tired of the high costs of operating a vehicle in this province (taxes represent a significant contribution to those costs). Ontario’s 2012 Budget increased driver and vehicle fees by $340 million per year, while cutting highway expansion and HOV projects by $229 million.

Ontarians are paying their fair share of taxes to fund Ontario roads and bridges every year, and there are at least 16 different taxes and fees related to owning and operating a vehicle in Ontario. Instead of increasing taxes, the Ontario government should better spend the $10 billion it receives from drivers and close the $7 billion gap in taxes paid, and roads and bridges being built.

Not too long ago, the Ontario Government commissioned Donald Drummond to report on public sector reform. The report suggested 362 recommendations to balance Ontario’s budget. Maybe the government should revisit the report to look for alternative ways of funding the gridlock and aging infrastructure.

Cost cutting solutions will almost certainly be controversial, but they are necessary if the province hopes to get address gridlock and other monumental issues facing the province in the years ahead. Hitting drivers with another tax is misguided and unfair.

Critics have argued that more drivers should abandon their vehicles and start using public transit only, but for the majority of Ontario’s nine million drivers, public transportation is not the silver bullet for their entire transportation needs. Whether it’s commuting to work, picking up children from daycare or simply buying groceries, driving a vehicle is an absolute necessity in this province.

Premier Wynne should do the right thing and abandon plans to increase driver and vehicle taxes – taxes that Ontario families can ill afford to pay.

Drivers are not responsible for Ontario’s massive $14 billion deficit – and should not be asked to pay more because the government can’t balance the budget.

Raising taxes is not the answer to gridlock and infrastructure issues. The answer lies in better fiscal management, increased efficiencies and greater accountability of the public’s finances.
hehe - thanks for mentioning to me ~ it's kinda funny...

Ya - one of my friends got a pic with Robbie ~ it's on Facebook and he's slyly sticking out his middle finger at Ford without Robbie's knowledge.

He's no rockstar downtown. Many of those people used those pictures to mock Ford.
That's like so totally cool. Like OMG, how old is your friend, 14? :rolleyes:
 

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Collectively, drivers pay more than their fair share.
Not even close. You are ignoring land costs. Cars are very land hungry and require MUCH more land than other forms of transit, and effectively get all that land for free from the government.

To support cars, our cities allocate about a third of the available land to roads and parking. A third. There are on average about eight parking spots per car, plus the square miles of land actually consumed by driving lanes. What is the value of a third of all the land in Toronto?

Highways aren't any better. The 407 highway wound up costing around 100 billion when you include the value of the land. That is just one highway.

The taxes that drivers pay don't even cover the interest on the interest on the money spent on land, never mind the costs of construction and maintenance, of traffic enforcement, licensing, registration, etc., and this is not even including a monetization of the pollution.

And yeah that land cost is real money, other forms of mass transit use far less land. If we switched away from driving we could eventually rebuild in ways that use all that land. You could run a massive subdivision with lots of big family houses down the DVP if cars didn't need the land, etc.

Obviously we would still need some transit corridors if we switched to rail, e.g., but if we recovered half that land that is a very large amount of land that could be auctioned to developers for hard currency.
 

Butler1000

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Just when I think Fuji has a realist view of the world he posts this^^^.

How do you propose delivering goods and services to all the businesses I wonder? Helicopter drops? Is your plumber going to take public transit to fix something?

I guess the Roman Empire had it all wrong in how to build civilization and facilitate commerce.
I'm truly having one of those "wow" moments here........
 

Butler1000

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You really like to make matters as simplistic as possible so a more apt phrase would be "what's good for the goose is good for the gander".
I didn't "make things simple". It is what it is. She walked up to him and threw a drink at him. Unprovoked. Just did it. The goose parable doesn't apply here. The Mayor did nothing to her. To her she probably thought of it as a form of political protest. Its not an acceptable one. Period. Throwing things at people reduces an issue to violence as a solution. Yes it is a simple line. But any crossing of that line makes for future escalation.
I would condemn anyone, of any political view, who did this to anyone. Period.

So should you.....
 

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How do you propose delivering goods and services to all the businesses I wonder?
We would need far less road capacity if it were just delivery vehicles. Clearly.

If drivers were simply made to pay the full cost of the infrastructure they use, the market would determine which uses were still economically worthwhile, but most commuters would quit driving.

We would then gradually eliminate unnecessary roads, parking, narrow the remaining roads, and put the land to better use.
 

blackrock13

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We already know he likes to hit women, given the assault charges his wife has filed in the previous years before he was mayor.
One small note, those charges were dropped because the wife's story just didn't hold up, but hey, who needs true facts.
 

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One small note, those charges were dropped because the wife's story just didn't hold up, but hey, who needs true facts.
I'd guess her self-esteem was knocked out of her long ago, probably sounded confused and unsure of herself. We don't know what happened in this dispute but calling her a liar is unfair.
 
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