Quick (and easy) Poll

[TQM]

no fuji.

To what degree to you hold yourself responsible for the event which happened?

Your answer (having to spell this out for you) is that you are partly responsible - no - you didn't commit the actual murder, but you were responsible for not doing something about it so that by not doing anything means you are indirectly responsible for the murder. You were negligent in my hypothetical case and therefore you've done wrong. You were, indeed, partly responsible.

That's a fine answer. I fully understand that you didn't pull the trigger or use the knife - or whatever. I fully understand that you could have done something and didn't. And it's the not doing something that you think fully wrong.

And because you were fully wrong in not doing something you are, to some extent, responsible for the event that happened.

 

[fuji]

To what degree to you hold yourself responsible for the event which happened?

Which event? There are multiple events here.

Your answer (having to spell this out for you) is that you are partly responsible - no - you didn't commit the actual murder, but you were responsible for not doing something about it so that by not doing anything means you are indirectly responsible for the murder.

NO. I am not indirectly responsible for her murder. I am not responsible for her murder at all, in any way shape or form, by zero I mean zero. Nada. Nothing. Zip.

The murderer has full and sole responsibility for the murder.

You were negligent in my hypothetical case and therefore you've done wrong.

Absolutely. For that separate and legally unrelated act of negligence I am 100% responsible, and have done wrong.

And because you were fully wrong in not doing something you are, to some extent, responsible for the event that happened.

I am fully responsible for ONE OF the events that happened.

Here are just some of the events that transpired:

1. A man verbally and physically abuses a woman

2. A passerby, me, witnesses it

3. The passerby walks on by

4. The man begins using deadly force in the assault

5. The woman dies

I count at least five events here. There are probably more.

 

[TQM]

no fuji,

There's no escaping by dividing the event into a bunch of mini-events. You could, of course, divide much further, right down to the details of the nature of the shoe laces, if you so wanted.

Hypothetically, it's perfectly reasonable to say a tragic event occured. No one would say a tragic 5 events occured. A tragic event occured - to what degree are you responsible?

You're trying too hard.

I've got your answer, but duly not you won't admit it yet.