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Questor

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Don - You definitely have a dilemma on your hands. I wonder what Dan Savage would say.

Maybe your problem is that you are hiding that kinky side due to fear of rejection. You tried to broach the subject and she did not react well, so you backed off. But maybe you need to keep trying. Either that or bail on the relationship. I'd go with keep trying.

How about this...you say she is marriage material, but have you told her that? Others have suggested breaking her into the whole fetish concept gradually, maybe through fantasy role playing. Is she open to that at all? Maybe you need to work harder on getting her to reveal her fantasies and then fulfill them. As she experiments more with her fantasies, she may be more open and comfortable about yours. All in the context of wanting to spend a lifetime together but not wanting the sex to go stale like you see in so many marriages.

In fact, that may be a good way to approach the subject with her. Such-and-such fictional acquaintance at work is splitting up because after a few years, you tell her. The sex life went downhill. So in that context, you discuss with your gf how you can spice it up for her, so it doesn't get old.

It sounds like she is worth a little more time and effort. In the meantime, avoid the temptation of getting it elsewhere by the hour. Something to consider - if you don't resolve this before marriage and kids arrive (assuming that is the direction you want to go) how do you think your sex life will be when those things do enter the picture?

I wish you luck.
 

Mable

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My S.O. is a reasonably good looking girl. She attracts men. I see it all the time. And she has never been one to turn it down. She loves it! BUT, she is soooo conservative. And unfortunately a lousy kisser. I have been with many sp's who have rocked my world but funny thing, when I am on my own and not with a good sp (don't hobby much anymore) I beat the meat thinking of my girl. Crazy huh?
 

afterhours

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My S.O. is a reasonably good looking girl. She attracts men. I see it all the time.
no offence but any vagina attracts men, especially in North America
 

Ridgeman08

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no offence but any vagina attracts men, especially in North America
Any Vagina? I completely disagree.

There are tons of women (no pun intendd) walking around out there that I wouldn't even look twice at, let alone entertain the thought of having sex with them.
 

Don Draper

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no offense but any vagina attracts men, especially in North America
I've heard this before and often and I find it to be a ridiculous and uninformed statement.

I'm only attracted to the vagina that I CHOOSE. It has to be the one that I want.

I have happily walked away many times from vagina that was not of my choosing or liking because the choice is mine to make.

If I'm interested in it: yes. If I'm not: no.
 

Zombie

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Don - You definitely have a dilemma on your hands. I wonder what Dan Savage would say.

Maybe your problem is that you are hiding that kinky side due to fear of rejection. You tried to broach the subject and she did not react well, so you backed off. But maybe you need to keep trying. Either that or bail on the relationship. I'd go with keep trying.

How about this...you say she is marriage material, but have you told her that? Others have suggested breaking her into the whole fetish concept gradually, maybe through fantasy role playing. Is she open to that at all? Maybe you need to work harder on getting her to reveal her fantasies and then fulfill them. As she experiments more with her fantasies, she may be more open and comfortable about yours. All in the context of wanting to spend a lifetime together but not wanting the sex to go stale like you see in so many marriages.

In fact, that may be a good way to approach the subject with her. Such-and-such fictional acquaintance at work is splitting up because after a few years, you tell her. The sex life went downhill. So in that context, you discuss with your gf how you can spice it up for her, so it doesn't get old.

It sounds like she is worth a little more time and effort. In the meantime, avoid the temptation of getting it elsewhere by the hour. Something to consider - if you don't resolve this before marriage and kids arrive (assuming that is the direction you want to go) how do you think your sex life will be when those things do enter the picture?

I wish you luck.
I was going to bring up Savage. Nicely said Questor. I like his phrase GGG -- "good (in bed), giving (concerned for the pleasure of your partner) and game (up for trying new things)". If you can gradually work at her without making her feel rejected, why not try? Though, my last gf was a disaster in this respect... we'll see what the new one turns out to be like. Going on our first date tomorrow.

That being said, I'm not sure I'll ever fully give up hobbying. Variety is the spice of life and all that...
 

afterhours

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I've heard this before and often and I find it to be a ridiculous and uninformed statement.

I'm only attracted to the vagina that I CHOOSE. It has to be the one that I want.

I have happily walked away many times from vagina that was not of my choosing or liking because the choice is mine to make.

If I'm interested in it: yes. If I'm not: no.
now imagine a regular Joe Shmoe who is definitely not a terbite and probably even does subscribe to a theory that paying for sex is degrading for a man

he would be on his knees before any woman as soon as she feels like it
 

GPIDEAL

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now imagine a regular Joe Shmoe who is definitely not a terbite and probably even does subscribe to a theory that paying for sex is degrading for a man

he would be on his knees before any woman as soon as she feels like it
Yes lol. Someone who's not a manwhore.
 

Don Draper

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now imagine a regular Joe Shmoe who is definitely not a terbite and probably even does subscribe to a theory that paying for sex is degrading for a man

he would be on his knees before any woman as soon as she feels like it
Then he deserves to be slapped, harshly and repeatedly for being such a pitiful, spineless schmuck. That kind of wuss doesn't even have testicles that matter sizing. He'll end up with the rank and festering vagina that he deserves.

Question for you guys does seeing SP affect your dating lives?
No.
 

something11

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no offence but any vagina attracts men, especially in North America
That is totally no truth! I was leaving in quite a few Europian Countries before and there you here compliments every day etc meanwhile here man don't even look at you so much.
 

desert monk

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I agree completely... which is why I want to make sure I don't screw this relationship up. She's a great girl and she also pretty good looking and has a pretty good appetite in the bedroom. She's definitely a keeper. She's just not quite up to par with the top notch SPs I've seen and I can't help but be a bit disappointed. I thought by stop seeing SPs, it would make we want her more and more but after almost a year, I still don't have that strong desire. She wants sex and I want to make sure I can continue to give it to her. So far I have disappointed her a few times because I just wasn't turned on but I was able to brush it off with some excuse.
What happens when her looks fade? Gets menopause ? You/she develops a health condition that prevents sex? You still want to be with her?
 

GPIDEAL

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Then he deserves to be slapped, harshly and repeatedly for being such a pitiful, spineless schmuck. That kind of wuss doesn't even have testicles that matter sizing. He'll end up with the rank and festering vagina that he deserves.

You're right. That kind of man is NOT a man-whore.
 

GPIDEAL

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Question for you guys does seeing SP affect your dating lives?
It doesn't necessarily conflict with it, but it might compete with it. OTOH, unless I meet someone worthy of dating, hobbying wouldn't affect real dating.
 

shakenbake

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yeah we can still be intimate, but you have to train your brain to get out of the sex/lust/sp addicted mindframe and into a relationship with a human being. Easier said than done.
With that, I can say that I have had mind-blowing sex with my So a lot more times than with SPs. Interesting how when there is a caring relationship, sex is much better, IMHO. The question arises, why do we still go to see SPs?
 

t00lman6969

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I make love to my wife, very often 2- 3 x a week. ...I have sex with SP's once or twice a week...see the difference. With my wife, she knows what i like, i know what she likes. However since and therefore my being particular as to the SP i see, the SP is fantasy fulfillment in the ways my wife cannot! The wife is very hot, skinny as i like, but sometimes variety makes for a good libido, and with an SP, its about ME, with my wife its about US!
 

LateComer

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With that, I can say that I have had mind-blowing sex with my So a lot more times than with SPs. Interesting how when there is a caring relationship, sex is much better, IMHO. The question arises, why do we still go to see SPs?
Because even though you could probably afford to have steak everyday, sometimes you want a hamburger.
 
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