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Question about new capital gains tax.

bazokajoe

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I am asking this question here because it has to do with finance and investing.
In yesterday's budget they said the capital gains tax will increase after $250,00 from 50% to 66%.

My question is when does that 50% to 66% limit start? Does it go into effect immediately(for 2024 taxes) or starting next year(2025) tax year?
Can I go over the $250,000 limit this year without triggering the 66% limit for my tax return that I file next year?

Hope I made sense.
 

bazokajoe

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Just found the answer to my question.
I hope this link works for everyone.


The change comes into effect on June 25. Lawyers and accountants are expecting a flurry of activity in the coming months, as affected individuals and businesses try to sell assets and realize their capital gains before the new higher inclusion rate takes effect.

 
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angrymime666

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I'm curious if they will let you have a capital loss over 66% and be able to claim and carry the loss.
 

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I'm curious if they will let you have a capital loss over 66% and be able to claim and carry the loss.
Isn't a loss just a loss that you should be able to carry over regardless?
 
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bazokajoe

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Isn't a loss just a loss that you should be able to carry over regardless?
You can carry a loss forward or even go back any of the last 3 years against a capital gain.

You can apply your net capital loss against a taxable capital gain from another year to reduce it – either carry it back to any of the past 3 years, or carry it forward to use in a future year. To carryback a loss (apply it to a previous year), complete form T1A: Request for loss carryback
 
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What the tax code needs, even more complexity.

I am being sarcastic.
 

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Just found the answer to my question.
I hope this link works for everyone.


The change comes into effect on June 25. Lawyers and accountants are expecting a flurry of activity in the coming months, as affected individuals and businesses try to sell assets and realize their capital gains before the new higher inclusion rate takes effect.

If people are otherwise planning to dispose the assets within the next 12 months the transactions will likely be sped up - especially when the vendor is a corporation or a trust to take advantage of the 50 percent inclusion rate.

As for prepaying tax solely to lock in the lower effective tax rate on the gain - doesn’t make a ton of sense from a time value of money perspective when the risk free rate is so high.

Couple key things to understand here:
Our tax act is predicated upon a principle of tax integration and that integration is now broken on the first 250k of a gain. That likely means other tinkering elsewhere OR if the liberals get a majority you will see the 250k individual exemption disappear.

the liberals maintain that this increase impacts .0012 percent of Canadians. However, this change impacts any individual owning more than one property (cottage/rental property/post inheritance gains on assets left to them)…to say that is .0012 percent of the country is absurd.

the liberals have yet to be able to implement a number of major tax changes they have proposed (2017 investment income overhaul, UHT, the bare trust debacle). TBD on some of this stuff. I personally don’t trust a govt that writes tax legislation with crayons while eating glue and picking their nose to do anything substantial.
 
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I'm surprised at this point more don't run their (online) businesses abroad, this is getting out of hand, fast!!
 

jalimon

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I'm surprised at this point more don't run their (online) businesses abroad, this is getting out of hand, fast!!
what matters is where you live. But read on how capital gain tax is calculated. This is not a big increase. Although i admit we pay to much taxes in canada. And waaaaay to much for a roof 😔
 

Cbr20152012

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what matters is where you live. But read on how capital gain tax is calculated. This is not a big increase. Although i admit we pay to much taxes in canada. And waaaaay to much for a roof 😔
Correct - not huge. People/corps/trusts paying an extra 8-9 points will likely deploy capital differently in the future.
 

jalimon

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Correct - not huge. People/corps/trusts paying an extra 8-9 points will likely deploy capital differently in the future.
To be honest we and they already mostly did. This will not be a big factor but as you said activate the reflect of how our gain are taken to avoid paying extra...
 

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I'm curious if they will let you have a capital loss over 66% and be able to claim and carry the loss.
There are no inclusion rates for capital losses. You get 100% all time time. Can only be used to offset capital gains, not other forms of income.
 
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Cbr20152012

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Inclusion rates are consistent w gains. When you die, you get 100 percent use of capital losses, to the extent you have not triggered your gain exemption on shares of private companies, or for the old people out there, triggered the 100k bump in the early 90s.
 

Cbr20152012

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Never forget - the changes, according to them, only impacted .0012 of Canadians according to headlines. If they actually said that it’s pretty stupid.
 
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Never forget - the changes, according to them, only impacted .0012 of Canadians according to headlines. If they actually said that it’s pretty stupid.
Like you stated earlier, it impacts all people with a second property but it also impacts their heirs. It's probably affecting about 10 to 15 percent of the population directly or indirectly.
The drama teacher continues to make friends
 

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Like you stated earlier, it impacts all people with a second property but it also impacts their heirs. It's probably affecting about 10 to 15 percent of the population directly or indirectly.
The drama teacher continues to make friends
i hope the conservatives get into power and reverse this decision from the two dopes.

does anyone know if an rrsp contribution, provided person has room, can reduce this capital gains tax in the case where a person doesnt make an income from wages?
 

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The History of Capital Gains Tax in Canada
Joseph Alfie , CIM®
Joseph Alfie , CIM®

Helping the high-net-worth grow their wealth. Portfolio Manager, Myriad Private Wealth with iA Private Wealth inc.
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The 2024 federal budget has been released, and it has sparked a vigorous debate about the implications of the changes to capital gains tax. I thought it would be beneficial to offer our network an overview of the history of the capital gains tax in Canada.
History
In 1972, Canada underwent a significant reform of its tax system, which included the implementation of the capital gains tax for the first time. This move was strategically aligned with the elimination of inheritance taxes, aiming to support the financial requirements of Canada’s social security system and to promote a fairer taxation framework.
Understanding Capital Gains
Capital gains are essentially the profits realized from the sale of an asset when the selling price exceeds the purchase price. For instance, purchasing 100 shares of a company at $90 each, totaling $9,000, and later selling them at $100 each would result in a $1,000 profit, which qualifies as a capital gain.
Exemptions and Special Cases
It's important to note that not all transactions trigger capital gains. Selling your primary residence at a profit or earning from investments in tax-advantaged accounts like RRSPs, RRIFs, or RESPs typically do not count as taxable capital gains.
Evolution of Capital Gains Tax in Canada
The introduction of capital gains tax was not unique to Canada; the U.S. adopted such a tax during the 1860s to support its Civil War efforts, and the UK in the 1960s to fund social security initiatives. From its inception in 1972 until 1988, Canada taxed 50% of capital gains at the individual's top marginal rate. This inclusion rate increased to 66.67% in 1988 and to 75% in 1990. This lasted about a decade and in February 2000, the rate was reduced down to two thirds, which lasted until October 2000, where it was dropped back to 50%, where it has remained to this day.
Federal Budget 2024
Budget 2024 announces the government's intention to increase the inclusion rate on capital gains realized annually above $250,000 by individuals and on all capital gains realized by corporations and trusts from one-half to two-thirds, by amending the Income Tax Act, effective June 25, 2024.
Temporary Relief Through Exemptions
The Canadian government also experimented with capital gains exemptions. In 1985, a one-time exemption allowed individuals to exclude up to $100,000 in capital gains from their taxable income throughout their lifetime. However, this exemption was discontinued in 1994, aligning with broader tax strategy adjustments.
This evolving landscape highlights the complexities and shifting paradigms of capital gains taxation, reflecting broader economic policies and market responses over the decades. As we look towards future reforms, understanding the historical context and current tax mechanisms is crucial for both investors and policymakers.
Source: A primer on capital gains taxes in Canada | CBC News
Source: Chapter 8: Tax Fairness for Every Generation | Budget 2024 (canada.ca)
Source: The history of capital gains | Financial Post
This information has been prepared by Joseph Alfie who is a Portfolio Manager for iA Private Wealth Inc. and does not necessarily reflect the opinion of iA Private Wealth. The information contained in this article comes from sources we believe reliable, but we cannot guarantee its accuracy or reliability. The opinions expressed are based on an analysis and interpretation dating from the date of publication and are subject to change without notice. Furthermore, they do not constitute an offer or solicitation to buy or sell any of the securities mentioned. The information contained herein may not apply to all types of investors. The Portfolio Manager can open accounts only in the provinces in which they are registered. iA Private Wealth Inc. is a member of the Canadian Investor Protection Fund and the Canadian Investment Regulatory Organization.
 
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