Public or Private healthcare for Canada?

What system of healthcare are you in favor of?

  • Keep it as is, universal free healthcare for everyone

    Votes: 15 51.7%
  • Add private health care to create a 2-tiered system where the rich can buy better health care also

    Votes: 11 37.9%
  • Scrap universal healthcare altogether, privatize it for all except for the poor and elderly

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Completely abondon all public healtchare, even for the elderly and poor

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Total voters
    29

shack

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Americans have the constitutional right to protect themselves many carry a gun everywhere they go many cars will have pistol or rifle in them at all times its not unusual. some states you don't even need a permit
Weak pivot. Nobody said that they couldn't have one. The question was, why would somebody need to bring one if it was supposed to be a peaceful protest?
 

shack

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also that there will be a perception that better doctors will migrate to the private system.
I believe that the market will limit how many doctors would switch over since there a limited number of people who could afford it.
 

danmand

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The thinking, rightly or wrongly, is that basic health care should be a right and not a privilege. By creating a two tier system the fear is that first it will become more like a commodity with the rich getting better case than the middle and lower class and also that there will be a perception that better doctors will migrate to the private system. I support universal basic health care and the system in Canada for all its faults and waiting time etc works reasonably well. As you and some have pointed out if you have money you can go to the states and many people do.
I am not able to agree with you. I think that health care is a right, and as far as I know Canada is the only country that does not allow private hospitals. Other countries can do it.

On the other hand, I do not have strong feelings about it, because we effectively have a tier 2 because of the proximity to USA. The only complaint I have is macro economic, i.e. that doctors, nurses and money flows to USA.

I believe that the market will limit how many doctors would switch over since there a limited number of people who could afford it.
I agree, more so because even people who could afford it would not want to spend the money.

There are actually very few people that travel to USA for medical procedures. It is estimated that 5,000 canadians a year go to USA for faster service.

Adding to the cost of a procedure is that you have to go to the private hospital for follow up care and checks. I had to travel to USA for several years for follow up checks after my surgery. It is not reasonable to have surgery at a private hospital and then go to the public system for follow up.
 
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Weak pivot. Nobody said that they couldn't have one. The question was, why would somebody need to bring one if it was supposed to be a peaceful protest?

do YOU know exactly when and where you might be attacked/robbed? why not carry one (legally) if you don't need it perfect! if you do need one you have one. again its the us you have the right to protect yourself and the right to carry in many states you don't have to if you choose not too.

well lets pivot more the guy wounded by Kyle Rittenhouse was carrying a pistol when he was shot he had it in his hand he was supposed to be peacefully protesting too

anyway way off orig topic
 
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