Prostitution Appeal to Be Heard Monday

[wigglee]

by what divine right does government control the activities of two consenting adults? Sex is a service which is in demand and there are plenty of suppliers ready to do business in a responsible, professional manner. Sex slavery, pimping of underage sp's, violence and unsafe practices need to be addressed, but the majority of business is done for pleasure and profit and without harm. There are plenty of professions where there exists exploitation and abuse ( like nannies), but we don't ban them , we just enforce existing laws against wrongdoers. Sex is a basic human urge and some cannot get it unless they pay...are we to forbid them this experience? Prostitution is an honourable empowering enriching profession if done properly , and the stigma needs to be removed. There are a percentage of fuckups in every profession, but we don't paint the whole lot with the same brush. Most of us can easily differentiate between a crack ho on a Parkdale corner and a sophisticated courtesan who knows how to pleasure a man. And most "johns" are decent , fair and respectful people who seek erotic fun and are willing to pay for it ( thereby bypassing the dating rituals, small talk, etc. of traditional hookups)
Let's separate religion from government and let people do what they please....there is no rationale for this prohibition other than religious based moral meddling through laws and gov't............LET MY PEOPLE FUCK!...C'mon Harper, is Canada open for business or not? Or do you prefer a waspy version of sharia law?

 

[blackrock13]

by what divine right does government control the activities of two consenting adults? Sex is a service which is in demand and there are plenty of suppliers ready to do business in a responsible, professional manner. Sex slavery, pimping of underage sp's, violence and unsafe practices need to be addressed, but the majority of business is done for pleasure and profit and without harm. Sex is a basic human urge and some cannot get it unless they pay...are we to forbid them this experience?
Let's separate religion from government and let people do what they please....there is no rationale for this prohibition other than religious based moral meddling through laws and gov't............LET MY PEOPLE FUCK!...C'mon Harper, is Canada open for business or not? Or do you prefer a waspy version of sharia law?

Why do you think they need a divine right? Wrong thread.

 

[Spacewalker]

That's Coles Notes to us Canucks!

You are correct. However, if you've ever looked at both Coles/Cliff Notes they are verbatim in content. I liked Barron's Notes more because it was better. LOL

 

[wigglee]

Why do you think they need a divine right? Wrong thread.

Sniping as usual Blackrawk? Maybe someday you'll think of something intelligent to add to the discussion....or maybe not. I guess that's why you are so friggin' bitter.
The fact is, opponents of legal prostitution do so largely based on their religion and their desire to force their religion based moral vision on the rest of us. Get it yet?

 

[blackrock13]

Sniping as usual Blackhawk? Maybe someday you'll think of something intelligent to add to the discussion....or maybe not. I guess that's why you are so figgin' bitter.
The fact is, opponents of legal prostitution do so largely based on their religion and their desire to force their religion based moral vision on the rest of us. Get it yet?

I'm not against the legalization of prostitution, religious, nor bitter at all, but hey. I just ask you what makes you think it's a divine right. The fact that religious faction are against it for whatever reasons doesn't make it a divine right, so your post is totally wrong from start to finish and didn't answer my question at all. Quite FUJI like.

 

[rld]

A better guide is when they start rolling their eyes.

The best is when they look at you and say "I don't need to hear from you."

 

[blackrock13]

The best is when they look at you and say "I don't need to hear from you."

That can be taken two ways depending on who he's talking to.

That's like, no need too stand and object councillor, I'll do it for you.

 

[blackrock13]

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As others have said to you blackrock... even when you have nothing constructive to add to the discussion, you feel some need to pick one irrelevant word to go off on.

You gotta be such a pariah at a party!

Back at you Rubb. No need to reply. Only a select few feel like you and it's no major concern.

I noticed I didn't get an answer from him so that tells me/us something; more gum flapping from Wigglie. it's almost right up there with FUJI's insight that to cheat is expected and natural, but not quite.

 

[fuji]

:blah:


As others have said to you blackrock... even when you have nothing constructive to add to the discussion, you feel some need to pick one irrelevant word to go off on.

You gotta be such a pariah at a party!

"Someone gets it."

 

[wigglee]

I'm not against the legalization of prostitution, religious, nor bitter at all, but hey. I just ask you what makes you think it's a divine right. The fact that religious faction are against it for whatever reasons doesn't make it a divine right, so your post is totally wrong from start to finish and didn't answer my question at all. Quite FUJI like.

how stupid are you?....obviously i was mocking this supposed divine right....there is no divine right and i go on to say that church and state should be clearly separated....get it yet?

 

[blackrock13]

how stupid are you?....obviously i was mocking this supposed divine right....there is no divine right and i go on to say that church and state should be clearly separated....get it yet?

Aaaah, mockery! Apparently not that obvious. As far as the separation of church and state, that line is becoming quite muddled, even in the land where all men are created equal.

 

[Aardvark154]

As far as the separation of church and state, that line is becoming quite muddled, even in the land where all men are created equal.

That line has never been quite as clear cut some wish to pretend. Further until Earl Warren it was always a line about establishment not about religious participation in political life.

At least when the term "divine right" is used most understand it to mean absolutism rather than "set aside" or "anointed," however, even there one can get argument if those terms are implied.

 

[customer]

Instead of all this legal bullshit, just let the citizens vote, yes, no, or no opinion. Then democracy would truly be in action.

 

[oldjones]

While I would agree with this statement for the most part, in this case you're not being fair. The woman actually wore that shit to court, CBC are not using pics from some sort of hidden camera.

The adult content is the arguments before the court; what she wore is tabloid stuff.

 

[oldjones]

from the Globe article

"Mr. Morris insisted on Monday that becoming a prostitute is an economic choice that individuals make knowing it is unsafe. He said the legal challenge is rooted in a false premise that the state must protect prostitutes regardless of how they engage in their work."

I used to have a fair bit to do with stuntpeople in movies and TV. These people have deliberately made an economic choice knowing it would place them in danger. They spend hours making sure there is no danger they are not fully perpared for and as safe as possible from any unintended consequences of. By this man's logic it would be quite acceptable for the government to forbid them from doing any of that, as the government forbids prostitutes from ensuring their safety by threat of law.

This is more blaming the victim.

 

[blackrock13]

Instead of all this legal bullshit, just let the citizens vote, yes, no, or no opinion. Then democracy would truly be in action.

........... and how much would that cost?

 

[Aardvark154]

Rubmeister, chill that is not a good path to go down.

 

[rld]

You again with your tangential arguments hijacking threads?

To answer your question, the exact price is $102,543.09 unless you have proof of a different cost.


Is there any way for the originator of a thread to block someone from posting?

On a slightly more serious note...we are part of a representative democracy in which we elect people to make those decisions for us, for good or ill. If we had a referendum on every criminal law that faced a constitutional challenge, I suspect things would grind to a halt quite quickly.

 

[blackrock13]

You again with your tangential arguments hijacking threads?

To answer your question, the exact price is $102,543.09 unless you have proof of a different cost.


Is there any way for the originator of a thread to block someone from posting?

Considering that a basic BC provincial referendum costs in the vicinity of $2 million and can easily come in at $18 million. The HST referendum in September is expected to cost ~$30 million. With this from aprovince that should know how to run one, so I suspect your estimate of ~$100,000 is a tad low for a nation wide referendum. A provincial referendum with all the bells and whistle, like the Quebec referendum, costs in the vicinity of $70 million. Now take those cost across Canada and it becomes expensive and unmanageable; for what? It's apparent your just having an idiot moment, don't know what you're talking about, or just doing what you try and accuse others of doing. It's hard to tell with you sometimes though.

Look, if you don't want to post, just don't post. Don't expect others to help you with your compulsions.

 

[OnlySex]

Instead of all this legal bullshit, just let the citizens vote, yes, no, or no opinion. Then democracy would truly be in action.

We can subject everyones individual rights to a vote by the people. Let's vote on gambling, religion, homosexuality, gay marriage, spinach ... who likes spinach ?, days off, TV shows, SC's, MP's, and finally ban country music, those loose fitting pants, socks with sandals, TERB, ....

I am a grown adult dealing with another grown adult - I don't need to have any of our relationship issues prohibited and dr5iven underground because it doesn't pass a popularity vote. The legal avenue that you toss away is the only thing that let's me and other adults make our own decisions.