propeer SP-client etiquette

[Casey.xox]

I have a lot of 'potential clients' ruin it for themselves by doing the following:

-sending multiple messages/calls : if I am busy, sending question marks or calling every 5 minutes is a great way for me NOT to return your call. I have a life, and it dosnt revolve around my phone!
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-asking questions answered in my ad if you take the time to read them: do NOT ask for incalls in this area because I DO NOT DO THEM!

-trying to haggle the price: its just plain RUDE! If you have a girl that does it for 40, then go see her by ALL means! Don't insult me and offer anything less than what I ask for!


I find certain areas worse than others... Clients in KW/cambridge area are the worst! They are very cheap, rude, and quick to judge!
My toronto clients are nothing but respectful, polite and always APPRECIATE my services. Not that KW clients are all bad, good ones are just hard to find. I think I may only start dealing with 'mature' men.

Anything else annoying clients do?
Vice versa,
Anything annoying us SPs do?

What do you consider proper SP-client etiquette?

 

[DELETDrileydaniels]

A client may call or text non stop, and when you clearly tell them you do not want to see them, I do not care who they saw after me or before me but I do not need an update about it. If you saw a girl for $1000 for 3 hours great, I do not need to know about it. If Suze did XYZ for you I am not going to do offer XYZ then go back to Suze I am not her.

The other thing is when your calling an SP make sure you have the right name your calling for it's very annoying when you calling an SP number and asking for someone else pay attention to the numbers your dialing.

 

[Aardvark154]

On the other hand, and this is not addressed to either of you, when someone e-mails or calls from out of town and they are trying to see if they are going to arrive early or stay over on a business trip, have the courtesy to reply and then keep appointments. Nothing is much ruder than an e-mail I'd love to see you Thursday at X, so on Wednesday no answer and no reply to a check-in, same on Thursday, appointment time comes and goes. . . .

 

[DELETDrileydaniels]

On the other hand, and this is not addressed to either of you, when someone e-mails or calls from out of town and they are trying to see if they are going to arrive early or stay over on a business trip, have the courtesy to reply and then keep appointments. Nothing is much ruder than an e-mail I'd love to see you Thursday at X, so on Wednesday no answer and no reply to a check-in, same on Thursday, appointment time comes and goes. . . .

This goes both ways. Some of us do reply back and still get no reply to follow up

 

[big.guy_13]

What about discussing price?

What I mean is, I have been quoted a number by a girl before, and it's different from what her ad says. I always start by saying that I want to confirm what she said. Usually that is enough for her to realize her numbers were different. But, in one case I actually questioned why her numbers were different. She said she had just forgotten, and was OK with the ad number. And then I apologized profusely, explaining that I want to make sure we agreed ahead of time so I didn't meet her with less (or more) than necessary.

 

[big.guy_13]

It's never with the actual goal of lowering the rate. While it results in that, it's actually for having what I'm paying matching what she has posted as what I should pay. If she doesn't budge from what she's saying compared to what's posted, then I'll either accept her new number or decide not to see her.

Rates should all be set and adhered to, imho... but definitely don't pressure an escort to lower her price for you. Some men come off as delusional and rude by thinking they deserve a random discount for no apparent reason.

 

[MissCroft]

Rates should all be set and adhered to, imho... but definitely don't pressure an escort to lower her price for you. Some men come off as delusional and rude by thinking they deserve a random discount for no apparent reason.

Yep! Why should one client expect a discount while others do not. IMO it's not only rude to the SP but also to other clients in general. It's like they are saying they're better or 'different' than other guys. Some may even go as far as to say that. :-(

 

[massman]

It's never with the actual goal of lowering the rate. While it results in that, it's actually for having what I'm paying matching what she has posted as what I should pay. If she doesn't budge from what she's saying compared to what's posted, then I'll either accept her new number or decide not to see her.

What you are describing is "bait and switch". This is a deceptive business tactic, and I would bail if someone up their advertised price when I show up.

As for the "bargaining" show a little class boys. If you know the price, and can't afford it, don't bother booking. You know what I'd love to drive a Porsche to work every day. But I don't go to the dealer, test drive it, and then expect to pay Toyota prices. Even more ridiculous is the amount that most of these guys nickel and dime for is less than they spend at timmies in a week. If you think a girls rates are too high, book someone cheaper. There are plenty of options in the hobby from 50-500 dollars. Choose what suits your budget.

You know even if you are a total cheapskate, it is better to pay that extra 20 without fuss or bargaining. You will end up having a better time. Whether you like it or not, the fact of the matter is that if you come across as a nice respectful dude, you will have a better time. Nothing kills a girls sex drive like haggling over $$, or acting like a dickhead.

As for the etiquette I as a client expect? Really much the same. No unexpected, excessive phone calls / texts. Easy booking, and honour appointment times (my time is valuable to me, more so than the cash I am paying for the session, so please dont waste it). No surprise extra charges at the moment of truth, it kills the mood. Be clean, well groomed. If I am nice to you, be so to me, make me feel welcome and comfortable I your presence, not like I'm a "mark".

That's about it. Pretty much the same as the sps want.

 

[massman]

Re discounts. If you ask, you will never get one. But if you don't, and are a good customer, you may on occasion get a bit of a break. In the past I have know a few regs, who I got on well with and had been seeing for a while. Often they would honor the original rate I paid when first seeing them (even tho she increased her rate over time). Just like at your fave restaurant, the owner may comp you an appetizer, or drink every now an then after you become a good customer, but if you went in on day 1 asking for a 20% discount, he tell you yo fcukoff!

 

[fluffytoast]

Haggling....it's like they think they're in China Town lol

@Sydney, that guy sounds like a jackass, waste of time for both parties
Do a lot of SP's accept haggling or something? :S I'm curious where this feeling of "entitlement" to a discounted price comes from.

 

[Aardvark154]

This goes both ways. Some of us do reply back and still get no reply to follow up

Riley, no argument from me, I'm sure it does.

 

[coolcat]

if an SP states her rates, whether by contacting them or them having it posted is fine. What I have a problem with is when they suddenly have higher rates or this and that is extra when you arrive. It has happened a couple of times with a particular agency to me. I gave this agency two opportunities and both times there was suddenly a huge upsell. I have had better success with Independents who have always stuck to their end of the deal. Sorry, but I now see a couple independents on a regular basis. We both know what is expected of each other and mutual respect is shown to both parties.

 

[Rockslinger]

With all the tipping threads flooding every forum on this Board every second day, I am shocked that there are guys who are haggling for discounts from the retail price. I would have thought that every guy would be more than happy to pay full retail and top it up with a 50% tip.

 

[ikakene]

The most annoying thing I think an SP can do is stand up a guy. [. . .] I'm talking about the girl that double books or for some other reason decides she doesn't want to work and then just leaves the guy hanging. AAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!! I'm getting all pissed off just thinking about it.

What exacerbates this for me is being strung along for forty minutes beforehand. You call on time and are told "Oh, I just need to freshen up. Can you call back in ten minutes?" You call ten minutes later, and are told, "Oh, sorry, my friend just came to visit (or some other obvious lie), can you call back in ten minutes?" Eventually you're told "Oh, no, sorry. I'm not even at that location."

I don't doubt that similar things happen to SPs too: "Sorry babe, I'm gonna be ten minutes late," and so on. . . . The bottom line is: regardless of who you are, or what field you're in, being jerked around (and conversely, jerking others around) is fucking lame. And it would be a simple thing to avoid if we were just more up front about the shit we get up to. If when I got there I were told "Hey, I'm really sorry about this, but I double-booked. Realistically, you're now facing about a forty-minute wait time," then at least I could make an informed decision. Obviously, I'd rather that the double-booking didn't take place. (I wouldn't have left my apartment if I'd known.) But being given accurate information upon arrival would at least allow for an effective cost-benefit-analysis of the new situation.

 

[harryass]

a few more, nothing really new

Anything else annoying clients do?
- not showering and bad hygiene
- over stay your plan time
- haggling on price as mentioed
- arrive real early without notice
- no show and no call or email if had to cancel
- showing up drunk as a skunk or high on who knows what
- you know the drill, sp shouldn't have to ask for the envelope
- talking load outside the door or in the hallway. Close the door first before talking to sp - be discrete.


Anything annoying us SPs do
- no reply for days or no reply at all
- cut time way too short from time schedule.
- talk about your boyfriend
- not showering and bad hygiene
- no call or email if had to cancel
- not advising clients you have pets prior. Alergies and pets sniffing your bare butt
- checking emails and on cell during session

 

[Rockslinger]

"Oh, sorry, my friend just came to visit (or some other obvious lie), can you call back in ten minutes?" Eventually you're told "Oh, no, sorry. I'm not even at that location."

Usually that means she got a better offer (some dude wants to book her for 3 hours for $1,000) and you and your lousy half hour are being dumped.

 

[Rockslinger]

I've heard some SPs (and other white knight terbites) try to justify this behaviour on the part of SPs on the basis of "well John's do it to them, so they double book".

Air Canada also double book but at least they offer a free flight as compensation.

 

[ikakene]

Usually that means she got a better offer (some dude wants to book her for 3 hours for $1,000) and you and your lousy half hour are being dumped.

Totally. I had an SP admit that to me once. I appreciated that she told me and I let her know it. Shitty that I got dumped, but better to know the score.

 

[Aardvark154]

If when I got there I were told "Hey, I'm really sorry about this, but I double-booked. Realistically, you're now facing about a forty-minute wait time," then at least I could make an informed decision. Obviously, I'd rather that the double-booking didn't take place. (I wouldn't have left my apartment if I'd known.) But being given accurate information upon arrival would at least allow for an effective cost-benefit-analysis of the new situation.

What is truly "blood boiling" is to have set up an apointment a week ahead of time, arranged your schedule, confirmed the day before that everything was on, and then have what you describe happen!

 

[Blue-Spheroid]

Some of my thoughts on etiquette:

Even though the SP experience is a business transaction, I hate discussing money because it spoils the mood. The rate should be clear in advance and handed over without discussion. I would feel very uncomfortable "negotiating" for services; the lady should decide what she wants to charge and the client should decide if he wants to pay the requested rate - no discussion required.

For me, it also ruins a session where the the SP asks for additional money during the session. I believe she should have her limits (of course) but the price of the session should be the same regardless of what activities (within her limits) are acted upon. Springing a menu and price-list once the session has begun is a total show-stopper for me.

When I'm with an SP, I don't want to hear about her other clients. I know she's a working girl but I don't want to discuss it when we're in an intimate setting. Also, if she talks about other clients with me, she likely will talk about me with others; not cool.

On this site we often use acronyms and slang to describe what happened in a session. That's fine but I don't like it when the SP uses the same terminology in our encounters. I don't find it sexy when a lady asks me if I want a BBBJ or if she asks me if I'd like to "switch to mish".

I know it's not a real romantic relationship but part of the SP service is to pretend she's into the action and not working on an assembly line. I know it's not always easy for a hot young lady to pretend an aging and decidedly unhot man (such as me) is her cup of tea but, to be blunt, if you can't act interested then you're not doing your job.