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Don't know if anyone has looked at the details in this semiofficial GOP policy doc but it's scary as fuck how happily the crowd that lauds the constitution is happy to vote for people who want to abandon it for personal benefit.

Along with all their typical 'war on woke' bullshit, it is meant to essentially collect power in the executive branch, essentially abandoning the balance of powers the Founders saw as necessary to prevent tyranny (which they would be dead-set against under a Democratic POTUS).

Plenty of commentary out there but anyone with the time should at least skim through the actual doc.
 
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Frankfooter

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Yes, project 2025 will be a disaster if rump manages to implement it.
Yet another disaster to be added on to Biden killing his reelection over supporting genocide.
 

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Don't know if anyone has looked at the details in this semiofficial GOP policy doc but it's scary as fuck how happily the crowd that lauds the constitution is happy to vote for people who want to abandon it for personal benefit.

Along with all their typical 'war on woke' bullshit, it is meant to essentially collect power in the executive branch, essentially abandoning the balance of powers the Founders saw as necessary to prevent tyranny (which they would be dead-set against under a Democratic POTUS).

Plenty of commentary out there but anyone with the time should at least skim through the actual doc.
So true, it's the right-wing's fever dream of establishing a one party rule, basically destroying American democracy. Setting up a modern day type of Confederacy, that allows a white-Christian Nationalist country to rise and seize all power.

If you notice this plan doesn't come from Trump himself, he's too dumb, lazy and devoid of ideology to come up with this. Just as long as it gives more power to do whatever he wants, he would gladly go along with it. Any pathological liar, malignant narcissist would love Project 2025, that lying buffoon would essential be a king. America's democracy is on a knife's edge, staring at the abyss.
 

kherg007

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It is evil. It is the form of government found only in the most oppressive regimes in the world. The USA implemented the Civil service act in the late 1880s because this sort of government was thoroughly corrupt and incompetent. This idea plans to go back to corrupt incompetence (and no you morons arguing the USA government is incompetent- it has its flaws but is actually quite excellent and just compare it to the majority of the world). Moreover, pledging loyalty to a party or man means no loyalty to law. Thus...let the proud boys push a few critics out the windows, and have the incompetent new project 2025 govt drag their feet, fail to investigate, and if it is too obvious, let judge Cannon decide to throw it out due to some misperceived technicality.
That's what awaits the USA.
 
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Frankfooter

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It is evil. It is the form of government found only in the most oppressive regimes in the world. The USA implemented the Civil service act in the late 1880s because this sort of government was thoroughly corrupt and incompetent. This idea plans to go back to corrupt incompetence (and no you morons arguing the USA government is incompetent- it has its flaws but is actually quite excellent and just compare it to the majority of the world). Moreover, pledging loyalty to a party or man means no loyalty to law. Thus...let the proud boys push a few critics out the windows, and have the incompetent new project 2025 govt drag their feet, fail to investigate, and if it is too obvious, let judge Cannon decide to throw it out due to some misperceived technicality.
That's what awaits the USA.
Are the right wingers here pretending its not going to happen or quietly dancing with glee?
 

southpaw

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Yes, project 2025 will be a disaster if rump manages to implement it.
That incompetent fool couldn't build a wall with four years in office.
 

basketcase

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Yes, project 2025 will be a disaster if rump manages to implement it.
Yet another disaster to be added on to Biden killing his reelection over supporting genocide.
As usual you need to bring your obsession into this.

Fact is that you and your fellow travelers are so obsessed about Israel that you're willing to throw away democracy and enable a totalitarian party. Though a desire for authoritarianism could explain why you are so willing to defend leaders like in Iran or Hamas.
 

Frankfooter

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As usual you need to bring your obsession into this.

Fact is that you and your fellow travelers are so obsessed about Israel that you're willing to throw away democracy and enable a totalitarian party. Though a desire for authoritarianism could explain why you are so willing to defend leaders like in Iran or Hamas.
Me?
Its the zionist crowd that's driving Biden to lose the election while I've been calling for the dems to stop him and stop the genocide.
Instead you'll get rump and his white supremacist 'fine people on both sides' crowd.

2025 is just zionism imported to the US, police state tactics, racial segregation and anti minority crap.
Isn't that what you want and love?
 

southpaw

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That's true, Trump is dumb and lazy, but the people that he will surround himself with won't be.
He will surround himself with nepotists and sycophants, just like the last time. Everyone else didn't last long.
 
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kherg007

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He will surround himself with nepotists and sycophants, just like the last time. Everyone else didn't last long.
He had a few decent knowledgeable people - the generals, tillerson, cohn for example - but he chased them all out. The only people left will be your true believers, your goebbels, himmlers, etc.it will be ugly. Imagine the worst barroom blowhard who knows nothing but thinks he knows everything and watch his unique combination of ignorance, malevolence, and incompetence work it's magic.
 
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Valcazar

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Don't know if anyone has looked at the details in this semiofficial GOP policy doc but it's scary as fuck how happily the crowd that lauds the constitution is happy to vote for people who want to abandon it for personal benefit.

Along with all their typical 'war on woke' bullshit, it is meant to essentially collect power in the executive branch, essentially abandoning the balance of powers the Founders saw as necessary to prevent tyranny (which they would be dead-set against under a Democratic POTUS).

Plenty of commentary out there but anyone with the time should at least skim through the actual doc.
It's ok, we've been reassured repeatedly that Trump is too incompetent to accomplish any of it, so no one needs to worry about it.
 

basketcase

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It's ok, we've been reassured repeatedly that Trump is too incompetent to accomplish any of it, so no one needs to worry about it.
Trump is a clown. The people who worry me are the ones who know how easily some flattery convinces trump to do their bidding.
 

Frankfooter

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Yes, you brough it up and you are not happy to see Trump in power just to spite moderate democrats, even though trump will be as bad for the US, for Canada, and for Palestinians.
Fixed your post for more accurate representation of my views.
Its amazing how often you get them wrong.
Intentionally.

I don't want rump in power, Biden is better generally but can no longer be supported because of his aiding of the genocide.
 
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