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Supporters of US aid to Ukraine are watching the turmoil in the House with growing alarm
MARY CLARE JALONICK and KEVIN FREKING
Oct 04, 2023

A path for additional U.S. aid to Ukraine appears increasingly fraught after the ouster of House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, with many House Republicans opposing help for the war-torn country as they search for a new leader.

Tuesday’s historic vote to remove McCarthy as speaker comes at a critical time, with a deadline for funding the government little more than a month away, and as opposition to aiding Ukraine’s defensive war against Russia slowly gains momentum among Republicans in both chambers of Congress.

Leaders dropped $6 billion in Ukraine aid from the temporary funding measure passed Saturday as they focused on passing it quickly, just hours before the government would have shut down.

Congress will have to figure out by mid-November how to pass another spending bill to keep the government open. Supporters of Ukraine aid — including Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who visited the Capitol to plead for the money in person just two weeks ago — say it’s essential that additional funding is included.

But the House is leaderless for now, halting legislation. And it is unclear when the next speaker will be elected.

Because the eight Republican lawmakers who voted to oust McCarthy were upset with his decision to work with Democrats on funding the government, his successor will likely fight the Senate and House Democrats on many issues, including funding for Ukraine.

“It does worry me,” President Joe Biden said Wednesday. He said he would address Ukraine aid soon.

“We cannot and should not again be faced with an 11th hour decision of brinksmanship that threatens to shut down the government,” Biden said.

In the Senate, where bipartisan support for Ukraine is stronger, Democrats and Republicans also expressed alarm.

“The fight in Ukraine is a century-defining moment,” said Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut. “The rest of this century looks radically different
if the United States abandons Ukraine. ... If the decision in the House is to elect a speaker who will fight against Ukraine funding, that’s a decision that will be written about in the history books.”

Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., said he hopes House Republicans “come to their senses.” If the U.S. can’t help a country that is willing to sacrifice its own people to fight Russia, Manchin said, then “God help us all.”

Senate Republicans who support Ukraine aid have increasingly said it should be tied to increased money or policy changes to help manage the southern U.S. border. They see the pairing as a possible compromise that could politically benefit members of both parties. But any dealmaking is on hold as House Republicans try to find a new leader.

“Because of the chaos in the House today, it makes it harder to talk about the failed Biden Presidency and address our broken southern border,” Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., posted on X, formerly known as Twitter.

So far, House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, and House Majority
Leader Steve Scalise have both announced that they will run for speaker. Oklahoma Rep. Kevin Hern is also weighing a bid.

Jordan has made clear his opposition to additional Ukraine aid and reiterated it Wednesday. “The most pressing issue on Americans’ minds is not Ukraine, it is the border situation and crime on the streets and everybody knows that,” Jordan told reporters.

Before the Ukraine money was dropped from the temporary funding bill, the House last week approved $300 million for a program that provides Ukrainian troops with training on the use of American-made weapons systems. The vote that was set up to allow some Republicans to register their opposition.

More than half of the Republican conference, 117 of 221, voted against the measure, including Jordan and Hern. Scalise voted for it.

Hern said Wednesday that Biden needs to “sit down in a classified setting, and tell those of us that have not supported, for the same reason time and time
again, we want to know what the American taxpayer dollars are going and what’s the end game.”

Rep. Kelly Armstrong, R-N.D., voted for the $300 million in training funding, but said the Biden administration needs to do a better job of making the case.

“People have had enough over here. They want to hear a plan. They want to hear a message. They want to understand what we’re doing. And there’s a case to be made. Go make the case,” Armstrong said.

Some Democrats weren’t sure if the situation was better or worse in McCarthy’s absence, noting that McCarthy was the one who dropped the Ukraine aid from the government funding bill.

“Let me put it this way, we’re no worse off,” said Rep. Adam Smith of Washington state, the top-ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee.

But House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Michael McCaul, R-Texas, who backs the assistance, said he knew that McCarthy was committed to funding Ukraine's war because of his private conversations with him. Amid the chaos, he said, he fears that the government will shut down in November and that spending decisions will be punted until the end of the year in one massive funding package.

McCaul said support for Ukraine would be a major factor in whom he supports for speaker.

“It’s going to be even harder now with McCarthy gone,” McCaul said. “We’re running out of time.”

 

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U.S. sending seized Iranian ammunition to Ukraine
10/04/2023


The Pentagon has transferred more than 1 million rounds of ammunition seized from Iran to Ukraine, the U.S. military announced Wednesday, a move that comes as congressional infighting threatens to delay or derail aid to Kyiv.

The transfer, which took place Monday, is aimed at helping Kyiv’s forces push through Russia’s defensive lines before winter arrives. It comes as funding for Ukraine has fallen victim to political infighting in the House, where a group of hardline Republican members are opposing any additional aid to the conflict.

Lawmakers over the weekend passed a last-minute spending bill to avert a government shutdown through mid-November, but stripped the legislation of Ukraine funding.

The shipment of 1.1 million 7.62 mm rounds to the Ukrainian armed forces has been in the works for months, according to U.S. Central Command spokesperson Capt. Abigail Hammock.

U.S. Navy forces originally seized the munitions, which can be fired by AK-47 rifles, from a stateless dhow that was shipping them from Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps to the Houthis in Yemen on Dec. 9, 2023, according to a statement.

The U.S. government seized the munitions through the Department of Justice’s civil forfeiture claims against the IRGC on July 20, according to the statement.

“The U.S. is committed to working with our allies and partners to counter the flow of Iranian lethal aid in the region by all lawful means including U.S. and U.N. sanctions and through interdictions,” according to the statement.

The Pentagon has $5.4 billion left in funding authority to send weapons to Ukraine, yet has only $1.6 billion left to replenish its own stocks, spokesperson Sabrina Singh said Tuesday. That money will soon run out if Congress does not act to authorize additional funding.

“We have enough funding authorities to meet Ukraine’s battlefield needs for just a little bit longer but we need Congress to act to ensure there is no disruption in our support,” Singh said.

 

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U.S. Navy forces originally seized the munitions, which can be fired by AK-47 rifles, from a stateless dhow that was shipping them from Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps to the Houthis in Yemen on Dec. 9, 2023, according to a statement.

This is the same as seizing munitions from the Houthis. Saudi will thank the U.S. to
no end. Or perhaps Biden wants to kiss MBS's ass before he has to beg him again to
bring oil prices down.
 

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Switzerland will pay Ukrainian refugees up to $4,000 to return home
Oct 6, 2023

Swiss authorities presented a temporary strategy for the voluntary return home of Ukrainian refugees, as it is planned to cancel the temporary protection status for Ukrainians in 2024 or 2025. In Switzerland, they hope that approximately 70,000 Ukrainians will return home, and 80% will do so voluntarily.

To encourage refugees to leave the country before the temporary protection status expires, authorities offered Ukrainians financial assistance from $1,000 to $4,000 per person, depending on the departure time.

It is expected that after the cancellation of the S status, 20% (or 14,000) of Ukrainians will want to stay in Switzerland. Swiss authorities are concerned that the longer Ukrainians remain in the country, the less likely they will want to leave.

 

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Ukraine designates China's biggest oil firms as 'sponsors of war' for Russian joint ventures
South China Morning Post
Oct 4, 2023

Ukraine has added the three biggest Chinese oil and gas producers - all state-owned companies - to its "international sponsors of war" list, spotlighting joint projects with Russia that Kyiv says help fund Moscow's war effort.

The National Agency on Corruption Prevention (NACP), a Ukrainian government body, put China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC Group), China Petrochemical Corporation (Sinopec Group), and China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) on the register on Tuesday, a move that could fan tensions with Beijing.

Ukraine uses the list as a way to pressure businesses into limiting their activity with Russia, which invaded Ukraine in February 2022, in turn curbing the resources available to the Russian military.

The move boosts the number of Chinese companies on the list to 12, more than any other nationality.

The energy giants join automotive companies Zhejiang Geely Holding Group and Great Wall Motor, providers of video surveillance equipment Dahua Technology and Hikvision, Kerui Group, an industrial group involved in the energy sector, telecoms giant Xiaomi Corporation, construction behemoth China State Construction Engineering Corporation, e-commerce giant Alibaba Group, and radar company Comnav Technology.

None of the three energy companies responded immediately to requests for comment. Neither the Chinese Mission to the European Union nor the Chinese Embassy in Kyiv replied immediately to requests for comment.

NACP cited heavy involvement with the Russian government, noting that the oil and gas producers are "paying significant taxes" in Russia.

In the case of CNOOC, it referred to joint LNG projects in the Russian Arctic, one of which was personally inaugurated by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Sinopec was listed for its continued purchases of Russian oil and gas, as well as ownership stakes in multiple Russian energy companies.

The agency referred to CNPC's "significant integration with Russia's largest oil and gas companies, as well as the government of the terrorist state".

While there are no official repercussions from being included on the list, the agency claims that banks and insurance companies use it for risk assessments.

NACP's list has also led to diplomatic feuds in Europe, where the Hungarian government held up support packages for Ukraine over the placement of OTP Bank, a Hungarian entity, on the list.

OTP Bank was removed from the list on Monday, as Kyiv looks to unlock €500 million (US$524 million) of EU military assistance.

China has claimed neutrality in the 19-month invasion of Ukraine, but critics in Europe have pointed to its close ties with Russia and the frequent championing of Moscow's talking points in state media as proof that it is playing a partisan role.

Chinese President Xi Jinping has spoken with his Ukrainian counterpart once since the outbreak of war, in a telephone call in April.

Beijing subsequently dispatched an envoy, Li Hui, to visit Kyiv and tour Europe. Li also represented China at peace talks in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, in August.

 

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Russia is not going to win the war by being honest and truthful in its words.
Nor can it win by spreading disinformation; For this is a war of attrition.
 

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Russia is not going to win the war by being honest and truthful in its words.
So you think they get to invade a neighbouring country and then they can win by lying about it?

Explain that odd theory?

How does that work?
 

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You completed the post. You just changed it after I responded to you.
Why don't you check for indication of the post being edited
near the bottom right hand corner? It happens sometimes
the poster would save a post before its completion. The saved
post is what you saw and commented on. I am not a slimy ball
like you.
 
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