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Tunisian man is found guilty of wearing headband in support of Hamas (msn.com)


  • Khaled Hajsaad wore the clothing at a rally in Trafalgar Square on November 25
A man has been found guilty of wearing a headband in support of Hamas at a pro-Palestine rally in central London.

Khaled Hajsaad, 24, who has been living in Birmingham, wore the clothing at a pro-Palestine rally in Trafalgar Square on November 25, 2023.


The green headband had the 'Shahada' written on it in white - the basic statement of the Islamic faith, the court was told previously.

The Tunisian man had previously told police the headband was 'an item of Saudi Arabia' and the Shahada was a 'statement of my faith'.

But Hajsaad was found guilty of wearing the item 'in such a way or in such circumstances as to arouse reasonable suspicion' he was supporting Hamas - an illegal act in the UK where it is designated a terrorist group.

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Khaled Hajsaad, 24, was today found guilty of wearing a headband in support of Hamas at a pro-Palestine rally in central London

Khaled Hajsaad, 24, was today found guilty of wearing a headband in support of Hamas at a pro-Palestine rally in central London© Provided by Daily Mail
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Hajsaad, who has been living in Birmingham, wore the clothing at a pro-Palestine rally in Trafalgar Square on November 25, 2023

Hajsaad, who has been living in Birmingham, wore the clothing at a pro-Palestine rally in Trafalgar Square on November 25, 2023© Provided by Daily Mail
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People gather in Trafalgar Square in London for a Pro-Palestine rally on November 25, the same day that Hajsaad was seen wearing the Hamas headband © Provided by Daily Mail
District Judge Nina Tempia balanced the expert witness evidence provided by two academics in the field, Professor Robert Gleave and Hugh Lovatt - before deciding that Hajsaad was guilty of the offence.

They spoke about the specific calligraphies of the Arabic script, as well as how closely it resembled the Saudi Arabian flag.


She said: 'Both witnesses I heard from are clearly experts in their field. Both Mr Lovatt and Professor Gleave agreed that the Shahada was a statement of faith.

'Professor Gleave accepted that in the conflict between Palestine and Israel there was no other organisation in the arena apart from Hamas that was readily associated with Shahada on a green background.

'I have to decide whether he was wearing it in such circumstances as to arouse reasonable suspicion that he was a supporter of that proscribed organisation.

'I am satisfied that the crown have proved their case to the criminal standard.

'Hamas is the most notable Palestinian group associated with the colour green and given the context of where the defendant was, wearing the headband on a pro-Palestine march, there would be no reason for someone to wear a headband of a Saudi flag.

'It clearly did not have the Saudi sword on it. I find the defendant guilty of the offence.

'I am satisfied so I am sure that the defendant wore an item of clothing, a green headband in such circumstances to arouse reasonable suspicion that he was a supporter of a proscribed terrorist organisation, namely Hamas.

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A masked Hamas militant, holding an AK-47 rifle and wearing a headband that reads 'No gods only one God, Mohammed is Prophet of Allah' in Gaza City in 2002

A masked Hamas militant, holding an AK-47 rifle and wearing a headband that reads 'No gods only one God, Mohammed is Prophet of Allah' in Gaza City in 2002© Provided by Daily Mail
Prosecutor Gareth Weetman asked the judge to consider the 'distress' caused by Hajsaad's headband and referred to the atrocities against Israel civilians on 7 October.

He said: 'November 25th was the day in question and so it must be that the defendants actions lent support to a terrorist organisation very soon after acts by that terrorist organisation on the 7 October, which would have been extremely fresh and raw in the minds of very many people.


'Therefore causing distress, significant distress, to those who were targeted by that organisation both directly and in the wider sense.

'Images of those very high profile protests would have been broadcast worldwide.'

Mr Wainwright, defending, argued that there was 'no evidence of harm being caused, no evidence of distress to anybody by having seen the defendant wearing this item of clothing.

'This is not a factor the crown can rely on, or that the court can take into consideration'.

Judge Tempia said: 'I do find that the harm is serious and I have to agree that the nature of the offence when it happened, soon after the incident of 7 October, would have made significant distress to those who were observing the demonstration.'

Hajsaad, of Smethwick, Birmingham, is described as an asylum seeker who arrived in the UK a year ago. He had previously entered a not guilty plea.

He is due to be sentenced on June 21 at Westminster Magistrates' Court.

He remains on bail with a condition of reporting to a police station every Wednesday and Saturday.
 

Valcazar

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For someone who claims to support students you appear to have called them stupid at least twice.
I haven't called them stupid.
You're the one who insists that they actually believe the thing you yourself said was inaccurate.
I have a higher opinion of them than that.

You also seem to be bright enough that you should understand that those students are protesting Biden and US policy.
Which they have every right to and, in fact, I think they are correct to since it is a shit policy.

Just as you should also know your history well enough to understand that being the government that students protest and attack is not a good re-election move.
No argument.
You don't want to be a government that anyone is protesting in a sustained way.

Combine that with this trending and you're going to be declaring everyone stupid soon.
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United States of Israel
You do know that what is trending at a given moment on Twitter isn't a great reflection of what people are concerned with in real life, right?

I guess you got me. Here I am calling these crackdowns by the police and the conduct of the universities stupid. (And immoral.)
 

Valcazar

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I never said terrorists are not humans. It doesn’t mean they should be treated as humans though.
It kinda does.

As to the protesters who support terrorists, I wouldn’t say they should be murdered. More like summarily executed.
That's not better.

Like they do with enemies of the people in those countries that arm hamas and that hamas supporters like so much, such as Iran, Russia and North Korea.
Really not better.

All I’m advocating for is speaking to people in a language they understand.
Which is why I am saying it is a good thing you are far away from any levers of power.
I'm against anyone who thinks the Iranian/Russian/North Korean approach is the right one.
 
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I haven't called them stupid.
You're the one who insists that they actually believe the thing you yourself said was inaccurate.
I have a higher opinion of them than that.
You think students right now don't see the US as being anti democratic and authoritarian, and if they do that makes them stupid?
That tweet was extreme but that sentiment is looking pretty common right now.
 

Valcazar

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You think students right now don't see the US as being anti democratic and authoritarian, and if they do that makes them stupid?
That tweet was extreme but that sentiment is looking pretty common right now.
So you no longer think that tweet is inaccurate?
 

Frankfooter

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So you no longer think that tweet is inaccurate?
The situation is very fluid, trying to make a blanket statement about whether I think that right now students think the US is acting like an authoritarian regime and the system doesn't seem democratic while events are still unfolding seems a bit premature.

Has Biden reached this level yet? No

But is this a start?
 

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They found the ugly bitch that struck a police horse. She didn't need the pole, she could've just looked at the horse and the horse would collapse. :D Deport


Mississauga woman, 61, faces charges for allegedly striking police horse at protest

A 61-year-old Mississauga woman faces five charges after a police horse was struck with a flagpole during a demonstration.

Toronto Police say officers were managing the crowd at the March 30 protest in the Gerrard St. E. and Parliament St. area when police say the woman “intentionally used a flagpole to strike a Toronto Police Services horse and then fled.”

Maryam Alnazer was arrested on April 23 and charged with obstructing a peace officer, assaulting a peace officer, two counts of assault with a weapon and weapons dangerous.

Anyone with information is asked to contact police at 416-808-3500, Crime Stoppers anonymously at 416-222-TIPS (8477), or at 222tips.com.

 
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