Sure, and rump really represents Jewish interests too
Sure, and rump really represents Jewish interests too
If they want to target Jews that's in direct conflict in Gaza, they should be shipped there so they will find out. A bunch of cowards who does nothing but target civilians who doesn't have anything to do with the conflict....no surrpise they support Hamas....
Mandrill's favourite spokesman.
Like this guy?If they want to target Jews that's in direct conflict in Gaza, they should be shipped there so they will find out. A bunch of cowards who does nothing but target civilians who doesn't have anything to do with the conflict....no surrpise they support Hamas....
Son of whores - Hamas not palestinians...
Israel is starving Palestinians, not Hamas.Son of whores - Hamas not palestinians...
Incorrect.You were wrong about the ICJ ruling and the import and message of the Provisional Measures.
You are mistaken.You repeatedly quoted the body of the ruling without noting that the Provisional Measures are the decisions voted on by the judges and to which Israel must abide. It was only after you looked at the full court ruling and stopped copying one paragraph from the body that you moved on. Quite often you've called me out for misrepresenting post fairly but this is a fair call on my end.
The problem is that you think this can be imposed from the outside.For years I've argued that the best path to peace is to end apartheid and give all Palestinians living under Israeli rule full citizenship and the vote.
Both of which have been incredibly difficult and fraught.Ethno states are poor idea and that land too divided for a two state solution to work. After the genocide I'm not sure, recovering from 75 years of occupation and now genocide will be much harder than South Africa or Rwanda's recoveries.
You're the one who brought it up and used it.I don't see the value in assigning the term 'real' as a qualifier to a ceasefire, that's your term only.
They are all somewhat unclear, although a truce tends to be less formal than a cease-fire.You could try to differentiate between a truce and a ceasefire, but even that's unclear.
That's fine that you think there are strategic compromises involved in any cessation of hostilities, I completely agree.Israel wants to use a specific truce time period in exchange for Hamas giving up their only negotiating chip, the hostages. The reason I don't support this is that its a clear attempt to repeat the previous Israeli truce which did not in any form stop the genocide or give Palestinians full respite or aid. A ceasefire for 6 weeks makes it harder to resume but there needs to be a clear statement that the genocide won't resume.
You are, of course, completely wrong about that.Check the thread, I believe that you brought up the word 'real'.
Its not a real ceasefire.
Israel say they will stop killing Palestinians for a little while so Hamas can return the hostages and then they can get back to the genocide.
Hamas will only agree to a real ceasefire.
It would be good to produce that poll.The last poll I saw still had Hamas at 75-80% support.
Feel free to find the posts and prove it, valcazar.Incorrect.
You are mistaken.
At worst it will happen as it did for South Africa, through boycotts and sanctions, as Canada has started with weapons. At best the US won't veto the next UNSC call for a ceasefire on Monday, Biden will stop Netanyahu from invading Rafah and the ICC and ICJ will follow through with agonizingly slow charges of genocide and war crimes.The problem is that you think this can be imposed from the outside.
Outside of the US invading and setting up a puppet regime, how do you expect this to happen other than a long, slow, painful process when both sides are rejecting the solution you prefer?
And this one will be even harder, I expect.Both of which have been incredibly difficult and fraught.
That's your opinion.You're the one who brought it up and used it.
I also think it is a bad qualifier, which is why I objected to it.
Would like to do a comparison of the US resolution and the one France will submit on Monday for a vote at the UNSC?They are all somewhat unclear, although a truce tends to be less formal than a cease-fire.
Fine, you've objected.That's fine that you think there are strategic compromises involved in any cessation of hostilities, I completely agree.
I objected you to saying that one you didn't agree with wasn't "real".
Noted, I brought it up first.You are, of course, completely wrong about that.
After you admit you were wrong (or prove me wrong) about the ICJ ruling I'm open to discussing that one.It would be good to produce that poll.
I suspect polling in a war zone is incredibly difficult.
What a surprise that you endorse claims about Jews and their money controlling politicians.Sure, and rump really represents Jewish interests too
Most of the people Hamas has demanded the release of are CONVICTED and sentenced to life sentences for murder. It says a lot about respect for life that you and Hamas think 40 elderly and sick Jews are worth 1000 Palestinians.You are such a hasbara troll.
Do you really think the thousands of Palestinians being held in 'administrative detention' are convicted of anything
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Frank is an elitist clown who keeps demanding that Palestinians be forced into becoming Israeli even though they overwhelmingly hate the idea and the Palestinians with the guns refuse the concept....
The problem is that you think this can be imposed from the outside.
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What a surprise that you attack Jews who are against lobbying the US on behalf of Likud.What a surprise that you endorse claims about Jews and their money controlling politicians.
At least you're being honest in this thread and admitting your issue is with Jews, not "zionists".
How does Israel having to continually defend their people from Hamas and the rest solve anything? Do you think there is any possibility that Iran (and Qatar) will stop sending money and arms to anti-Israel groups like Hamas, PIJ, or Hezbollah?...
Just stop supplying them with weapons and ammunition, is Israel in danger if they pull back to concentrate on the defense they screwed up on?
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The Israeli military court system is an apartheid venture with a 99.9% rate of finding guilt.Most of the people Hamas has demanded the release of are CONVICTED and sentenced to life sentences for murder. It says a lot about respect for life that you and Hamas think 40 elderly and sick Jews are worth 1000 Palestinians.
You're still making excuses for hamas to reject a ceasefire.
????What a surprise that you attack Jews who are against lobbying the US on behalf of Likud.
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